Poll: The Raping Game (Rapelay)

[yanipheonu]

Really, it's a just a fancy roleplay. It's not really any different than two people roleplaying a rape situation. It's like saying someone into bondage ties up random people against their will.

This is a bit personal for me since... I subscribe to that fetish. I've played eroges involving rape and such. But it's just a sexual preference, nothing more. It's not like I'm a rapist. It's just how I am. And really, a lot of sexual fantasies involve domination of some sort, and it goes both ways.

I don't see any reason to ban this one in particular.

 

[Grospoliner]

There is a great deal of anger over the game, but the problem is no one looks at the whole picture. You see, as the antagonist of RapeLay, you are indeed tasked with the assault of 3 victims. However, the endings of the game generally result in the antagonist being killed. So oddly enough the game switches from being a domination fantasy to a revenge fantasy. Most people gloss right over that fact.

 

[SweetNess_666]

This most defienetly must be the worst thing ever rape really isn't a game it wrecks lives and whoever finds it entertainment is sick in the head! I'm all for free speach and the right to express and even peoples fetishes i mean I'm going to Manchester next month to spend 3 days as awoman but this is way to much the company should be burnt into the ground and this games development staff Hung drawn castrated and quartered! Sorry for the rant but that's really how I feel about this topic

 

[Nerfherder17]

Don't think any game should be banned, or any book film or song as it denies people human rights. Yes its a fucked up game, someone mentioned that it might deter people from actually going out and raping someone. I guess that would be a positive, as long as non rapists don't get "into it" through this, a rape hentai or rape porn. Then again, I enjoy the occasional mass slaughter of civilians in gta, doesnt mean I want to go out and kill a bunch of people.

However "No Russian" is the best mission in any shooter game ever, and when your flight is delayed 3 hours and your stuck waiting for your flight, it seems more and more tempting to re-enact the mission.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

It should absolutely be banned for no other reason than to not feed fuel to the fire of those nut jobs that want to ban video games in general.

You are wrong, its other way around. By banning this piece of crap, you are acknowledging that the 'nut jobs' are right, hence opening the door to ban other games. Say, that involve killing people ? I mean, how murder is less wrong then rape, right ?

I was thinking about this while reading this thread and if you think about it with the exception of maybe Kratos most games make you kill 'the bad guys' or aliens etc

This game is making you take vulnerable innocent people with personalities and (taken from the wikipedia page) 'break' them :S

If that doesn't disturb you more than comically punting a faceless rubbery civilian into fire hydrant in GTA 4. There must be something amiss.

Even violent games have boundaries (no killing kids) and are usually comical or over the top.

I don't know maybe I feel worse about this whole issue becuase I'm female.

 

[kouriichi]

I dont think it should be. It hasnt hurt anyone yet.

Hell, my wife enjoys a little roleplay in the bedroom every now and then, and one of her favorites is rape.

Honestly, this game has probably done more good then bad. Anyone into the rape fetish would probably pick this up, and waste a few days fapping instead of planning to kidnap someone.

Now im not saying games like this are a good thing, nor am i saying i advocate rape, or the ideals of it. But just because its not a good thing, doesnt make it bad.

 

[MaxwellEdison]

Why do you think the line that should be drawn on free speech should be drawn on something as harmless as this? It's a bit more disgusting than the mainstream, sure, but for what reason should it be banned? Just because you think it's wrong? Sorry, you guys don't get to make that decision for other people.

 

[Dfskelleton]

The disturbing thing is that some people are actually into this crap. I don't think any form of entertainment should be illegal, but to the people who actually want to play this excuse for a game...

 

[diebane]

I believe that games or art which displays things like rape or childporn can prevent rape or childporn in real life. People who are into those things can satisfy their needs by playing rapelay or looking at painted art childporn, instead of having to do those things in real life because there are no alternatives.

mfG diebane

 

[Netface]

freedom of speech is one thing. this is horrible. all there is to it

I have to agree with that. The notion that all sorts of violent, demeaning and illegal porn could be protected under freedom of speech seems rather stupid to me.

Violent and demeaning perhaps, but freedom of speech does not automatically protect something that is already illegal.

 

[xdom125x]

A zero tolerance policy in regards to child porn has been decided on and I can't see any real reason why it shouldn't have been.

Because if it isn't real, then it isn't child porn.

Bullshit.

Its like saying hentai isn't porn because its animated.

I think he was talking about the "child" part of the porn. He is saying that if it isn't a real child, it should not be banned. And I kind of agree with him on that 1.

I recall a painting that summed it up nicely. It was of a pipe, and under it (written in French) it said "This is not a pipe". It isn't a real thing and people should remember that it isn't a real thing.
(I would totally post the image, but I forgot how to).


Edit: bringer of illumination ninja'd the point of this post.

Enough said.

That is so much better than the one I was thinking of.

 

[CrayKing]

answer: no

I certainly don't posses any interest in this game, nor do I know anyone who does. But i'm a firm believer in freedom of speech, and that it applies to dislikes and likes alike.

That being said, this game doesn't particularily offende me or anything of the sorts. I'm not gonna claim some moral highground on the things I do in games. Dependant on your view on these issues, most of us have probably done a hole lot of stuff, that could be considered way worse, in many of the games we play.
Looking back on all the hooker-killing and rabbi-hunting(a game i started with my brother. the only reason being that the rabbies where easy to spot. Same rules applied to people doing yoga) in GTA4, I must admit that the only thing having stopped most of us for doing any raping in those games is the fact that we can't. This doesn't say anything about us, rather it's just the natures of these games and the carthatic entertainment it presents.

When i first heard about this i was litteraly saying WTF. Out of curiosty i had to see it in "action", to see wether or not it was as bad as people indicated. I found some gameplay, looked for a bit and said to myself: "I've come across way worse in movies and books and help me god what not?"

I however doubt, however, that this game will have any deterent factor on people who are truly into this stuff. The moment somebody thinks it's completely okay to impose your will onto the body of another, you can be pretty sure that what we consider to be proper logic doesn't apply. It's more likely that this will result in "reinforcement" for the few who like this.
But it is what it is. It's a goddamn fetisch. Nothing wrong with that. Odds are a most of us have some fetisches, some have small fetisches like being into Asians, some have big fetisches such as being chubby chasers(bada-bum-tisch!)

 

[DAPLR]

Why do you think the line that should be drawn on free speech should be drawn on something as harmless as this? It's a bit more disgusting than the mainstream, sure, but for what reason should it be banned? Just because you think it's wrong? Sorry, you guys don't get to make that decision for other people.

*Sigh*, For you I'll say it again. My opinion is 'no ban', but this game was AND STILL IS banned in various countries, what the whole damn debate is about is whether that should be good or bad. Why does everyone think I favour this game being banned?

 

[Luisen123]

1. Depictions of rape in any media are not banned in Japan.
2. Porn games in Japan are not banned or illegal.
3. Game was released for Japan following a strict policy set by Illusion.

Therefore, there is no reason for the game to be banned, anything else is pure personal opinion.
Besides, after playing the game is not even rape anymore and it's also bad, Illusion has done much better.

 

[freat]

Played it
It's not violent and it isn't really even rape
It's more sexual extortion
It's just your normal H game from the land of a different culture
Stop acting like kids and maybe play/watch some of the game before you QQ
Although maybe I'm asking to much from the escapist forums

 

[NightlyNews]

XD I'm a woman and I say keep it legal. Why? Because it's a fetish game, just like any other sexual roleplay that already exists. Let's face it, rape is a fetish for a lot of people. I'd rather those who entertain those thoughts to have an outlet rather than go crazy and ACTUALLY rape someone. As long as we aren't giving kids access, what is the harm?

I'm stupidly free speech and voted for this to be legal in the poll.

But, at the same time I'm torn. I honestly believe that "living out" a rape fantasy wouldn't cause someone to be less likely to do it in real life. I'm no psychology nut or anything, but generally serial killers find it easier and easier to kill after their first murder.

I'm afraid this might be easing them into it *squick.

I was looking for a website I found a while back that showed a link between internet porn and declining sexual assault charges. The whole idea behind it is that people can get their jollies from something played up to be real on the internet without going out and causing these crimes themselves. I think your argument about serial killers is a little off. Serial killers generally do find it easier to kill a man after their first, but that doesn't mean if I play a game about killing people (gee I wonder where I could find one of those) it doesn't mean I'll find it easier to murder someone just because I did in the game.

That's where this logic really breaks down for me, gamers are right behind a game where you murder countless people yet they get a little uneasy when the crime shifts to an equally heinous crime.

all that being said it's not a game that interests me, I keep being reminded of the quote:

"I don't agree with what you are saying, but I will defend with my life your right to say it."

I'm not saying I'd sensor it. Just because something has the ability to cause harm to someone is not enough to stop free speech.

And I don't think Halo or GTA hurts anyone, because the end goal isn't to simulate killing people. I don't enjoy chainsawing someone in GOW because it's an accurate cathartic example of something I wanna do. It's just funny.

But, a rape sim game is clearly just made for those with either rape fetishes or the desire to control another person. The game won't make someone rape someone. But, say they have the strong desire to do so and this game makes them think about it more. We should never censor it, but I'm not going to completely dismiss the chance that this may be doing harm to society.

 

[Jake the Snake]

Is rape a despicable thing? Yes. Would you think someone who plays this creepy? Yes. Should it be banned? No. At the end of the day, freedom of speech reigns supreme. You don't have to like it, you don't even need to approve of the content of the damn game, but you can't use your personal feelings to tell other people what to do unless there is sufficient evidence the game is causing harmful behavior.