Poll: The Raping Game (Rapelay)
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answer: no
I certainly don't posses any interest in this game, nor do I know anyone who does. But i'm a firm believer in freedom of speech, and that it applies to dislikes and likes alike.
That being said, this game doesn't particularily offende me or anything of the sorts. I'm not gonna claim some moral highground on the things I do in games. Dependant on your view on these issues, most of us have probably done a hole lot of stuff, that could be considered way worse, in many of the games we play.
Looking back on all the hooker-killing and rabbi-hunting(a game i started with my brother. the only reason being that the rabbies where easy to spot. Same rules applied to people doing yoga) in GTA4, I must admit that the only thing having stopped most of us for doing any raping in those games is the fact that we can't. This doesn't say anything about us, rather it's just the natures of these games and the carthatic entertainment it presents.
When i first heard about this i was litteraly saying WTF. Out of curiosty i had to see it in "action", to see wether or not it was as bad as people indicated. I found some gameplay, looked for a bit and said to myself: "I've come across way worse in movies and books and help me god what not?"
I however doubt, however, that this game will have any deterent factor on people who are truly into this stuff. The moment somebody thinks it's completely okay to impose your will onto the body of another, you can be pretty sure that what we consider to be proper logic doesn't apply. It's more likely that this will result in "reinforcement" for the few who like this.
But it is what it is. It's a goddamn fetisch. Nothing wrong with that. Odds are a most of us have some fetisches, some have small fetisches like being into Asians, some have big fetisches such as being chubby chasers(bada-bum-tisch!)
I certainly don't posses any interest in this game, nor do I know anyone who does. But i'm a firm believer in freedom of speech, and that it applies to dislikes and likes alike.
That being said, this game doesn't particularily offende me or anything of the sorts. I'm not gonna claim some moral highground on the things I do in games. Dependant on your view on these issues, most of us have probably done a hole lot of stuff, that could be considered way worse, in many of the games we play.
Looking back on all the hooker-killing and rabbi-hunting(a game i started with my brother. the only reason being that the rabbies where easy to spot. Same rules applied to people doing yoga) in GTA4, I must admit that the only thing having stopped most of us for doing any raping in those games is the fact that we can't. This doesn't say anything about us, rather it's just the natures of these games and the carthatic entertainment it presents.
When i first heard about this i was litteraly saying WTF. Out of curiosty i had to see it in "action", to see wether or not it was as bad as people indicated. I found some gameplay, looked for a bit and said to myself: "I've come across way worse in movies and books and help me god what not?"
I however doubt, however, that this game will have any deterent factor on people who are truly into this stuff. The moment somebody thinks it's completely okay to impose your will onto the body of another, you can be pretty sure that what we consider to be proper logic doesn't apply. It's more likely that this will result in "reinforcement" for the few who like this.
But it is what it is. It's a goddamn fetisch. Nothing wrong with that. Odds are a most of us have some fetisches, some have small fetisches like being into Asians, some have big fetisches such as being chubby chasers(bada-bum-tisch!)
*Sigh*, For you I'll say it again. My opinion is 'no ban', but this game was AND STILL IS banned in various countries, what the whole damn debate is about is whether that should be good or bad. Why does everyone think I favour this game being banned?MaxwellEdison said:
1. Depictions of rape in any media are not banned in Japan.
2. Porn games in Japan are not banned or illegal.
3. Game was released for Japan following a strict policy set by Illusion.
Therefore, there is no reason for the game to be banned, anything else is pure personal opinion.
Besides, after playing the game is not even rape anymore and it's also bad, Illusion has done much better.
2. Porn games in Japan are not banned or illegal.
3. Game was released for Japan following a strict policy set by Illusion.
Therefore, there is no reason for the game to be banned, anything else is pure personal opinion.
Besides, after playing the game is not even rape anymore and it's also bad, Illusion has done much better.
Played it
It's not violent and it isn't really even rape
It's more sexual extortion
It's just your normal H game from the land of a different culture
Stop acting like kids and maybe play/watch some of the game before you QQ
Although maybe I'm asking to much from the escapist forums
It's not violent and it isn't really even rape
It's more sexual extortion
It's just your normal H game from the land of a different culture
Stop acting like kids and maybe play/watch some of the game before you QQ
Although maybe I'm asking to much from the escapist forums
I'm not saying I'd sensor it. Just because something has the ability to cause harm to someone is not enough to stop free speech.Limecake said:
And I don't think Halo or GTA hurts anyone, because the end goal isn't to simulate killing people. I don't enjoy chainsawing someone in GOW because it's an accurate cathartic example of something I wanna do. It's just funny.
But, a rape sim game is clearly just made for those with either rape fetishes or the desire to control another person. The game won't make someone rape someone. But, say they have the strong desire to do so and this game makes them think about it more. We should never censor it, but I'm not going to completely dismiss the chance that this may be doing harm to society.
Is rape a despicable thing? Yes. Would you think someone who plays this creepy? Yes. Should it be banned? No. At the end of the day, freedom of speech reigns supreme. You don't have to like it, you don't even need to approve of the content of the damn game, but you can't use your personal feelings to tell other people what to do unless there is sufficient evidence the game is causing harmful behavior.
1.Yeah..the game is stupid, it has bad graphics, it doesn't actually teach you anything good...But hey neither did Gears of war, COD , duke nukem forever etc.Im oposed to the ban.Why? it's still a game. It's up to the consumer to decide what is good or not good for them.Unless you would rather have some sort of police deciding what games you should play every time.....
2.Many of you sirs fail to realize what I have typed above, but there's also the matter of culture involved here.What may be innaceptable in the US may be tolerable in Japan, and vice versa. I can remember allot of games not being released in japan because they depicted nuclear bombs....Soooo bottom line:
The message is stupid, the idea is stupid, but I'm still against banning it because it's still a game.A bad , horrbile, Shock inducing one.....But still it's a game :|
Someone else has puted it better already, "The consumer should decide what he buys and plays/reads/watches...No one else" and damn right it is.
Even though I hate COD, thin about it, today it will be that game, tomorow they'll say that other games you normally play now are who knows what kind of abominations.
2.Many of you sirs fail to realize what I have typed above, but there's also the matter of culture involved here.What may be innaceptable in the US may be tolerable in Japan, and vice versa. I can remember allot of games not being released in japan because they depicted nuclear bombs....Soooo bottom line:
The message is stupid, the idea is stupid, but I'm still against banning it because it's still a game.A bad , horrbile, Shock inducing one.....But still it's a game :|
Someone else has puted it better already, "The consumer should decide what he buys and plays/reads/watches...No one else" and damn right it is.
Even though I hate COD, thin about it, today it will be that game, tomorow they'll say that other games you normally play now are who knows what kind of abominations.
The concept of censorship is evil but raping children isn't? Anyway, you are being too pragmatical about it. It's a question of principles, and my moral compass just says - no way. I'm a tolerant person but there's a limit to what Im ready to accept, and this is way beyond that limit.DAPLR said:
"You" in that case wasn't directed at you, but at the various people who do support the ban. Sorry for wording it vaguely.DAPLR said:
I believe there's a difference between the motivations between someone who buys a rape or sim and someone who buys a game that has murder or rape in it.Father Time said:
Not saying we should censor it. If there was a game where a kid was just on a table and the entire thing was just cutting them up ... That game would only be bought by people who have the desire to murder. I'm not sure if it would increase their chance to do so, but at that point you have to wonder if something like that is harming anyone.
Also, anyone owning a slicing up people sim would seem like a suspect to any murder that happens within a square mile.
Wait WHAT? Raping people, stalking children IS horrible by all possible definitions. There is no way around it, and nobody with anything comparable to moral would say anything different. Maybe he has some kink that a lot of people find disgusting, yes, but if it's not extremely unethical it's not comparable to this.Father Time said:
No offense mate but your logic just doesn't make any sense to me
No, free speech was originally supposed to assure that all sorts of political opinions can be stated no matter how controversial they might be - a cornerstone in democracy, (this may not include hatespeech)Father Time said:
This has nothing to do with a political opinion. This is just entertainment, if you can call it that.
I think you have been misinformed, there are no children in this game, unless you count 17 a child (not quite an adult but certainly not a child). and there isn't anything to do with stalking in this game, it's an opening cut scene then just choose girl>choose location>have sexCarlMinez said:
It makes me sick that so many of you don't think it should be banned. I realise that playing it won't make you a rapist, but there are some things that just need to banned on principle for being so fucked up...
It just seems that every time game censorship is mentioned, an army mindless sheep appear harping on about freedom of speech, regardless of the content. If a game comes out with child rape in it, would you stand up for it? Because that's only one step below this shit...
I know that censorship can sometimes to far, but this definitely not one of those times.
It just seems that every time game censorship is mentioned, an army mindless sheep appear harping on about freedom of speech, regardless of the content. If a game comes out with child rape in it, would you stand up for it? Because that's only one step below this shit...
I know that censorship can sometimes to far, but this definitely not one of those times.
I love how you convientiently ignored the rest of my post which went on to explain it isn't like 'burning books' becuase it still would be in existence it would just be disallowed within the community.Father Time said: