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0p3rati0n

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Have you ever experienced the supernatural? Please be honest.

I kinda have. When I was oooooh around two years old we moved into a new house. Today/ present my mom tells me when everyone was a sleep and she was the only one awake she would hear the shuffling of slippers on the floor. She would go check it out but no one was there. Also when I babysit my five year old and two year old cousins, the five year old has his eyes open (yet he's still asleep) he also talks in his sleep. It feels as if he's actually talking to someone I can't see.

So what's your story (if you have one)
 

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Kukul said:
There is no supernatural.
Just because you can't find explaination for something, doesn't mean it happens against the laws of physics.
I've experienced some highly improbable coincidences and tricks played by my mind, but I was never dumb enough to call it "paranormal", "supernatural" or "magic".

Sorry for being such a buzz-kill.
This.
 

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DannyBoy451 said:
Kukul said:
There is no supernatural.
Just because you can't find explaination for something, doesn't mean it happens against the laws of physics.
I've experienced some highly improbable coincidences and tricks played by my mind, but I was never dumb enough to call it "paranormal", "supernatural" or "magic".

Sorry for being such a buzz-kill.
This.
Agree, there certainly is a lot we will never fully understand but calling it supernatural is a little silly if you ask me
 

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I've experienced the paranormal before, its not a story that I like tos hare becuase it isn't as flashy or awesome as people are lead to beleive. But heck it happened.

I was jsut with a few friends who decided to check out some old building in my town after hanging around all day. While we were wandering around we all heard what sounded like footsteps on the metal catwalk above us. Glancing up I saw a shadow moving across from right to left and then poof, vanish. I didn't think much of it but heck it got me thinking about the supernatural. Its something I want to try to understand now.


I sorta was wishing for like something out of a movie with creepy laughter and little girls chanting my doom or something. Nope, anticlimax.
 

0p3rati0n

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Kukul said:
There is no supernatural.
Just because you can't find explaination for something, doesn't mean it happens against the laws of physics.
I've experienced some highly improbable coincidences and tricks played by my mind, but I was never dumb enough to call it "paranormal", "supernatural" or "magic".

Sorry for being such a buzz-kill.
your just like my friend. Just because you can't prove it means it's not there or it doesn't exist. That's why he clams he's atheist.

So here's a question. For something that is there and you can physically see it but we can never figure it out. What does that mean to you?
 

Chipperz

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I've been called a "psychic deadzone". I can walk into the most haunted places in the U.K. and have NOTHING happen to me or the people around me. Having said that, my old R.E. teacher had a convincing argument for believing in Heaven (which I'll shorten); "If you believe in Heaven and it's not there, you lose nothing. If you don't believe and it is, you'll look like an idiot." So yeah, I haven't encountered anything, but I believe.
 

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Kukul said:
There is no supernatural.
Just because you can't find explanation for something, doesn't mean it happens against the laws of physics.
I've experienced some highly improbable coincidences and tricks played by my mind, but I was never dumb enough to call it "paranormal", "supernatural" or "magic".

Sorry for being such a buzz-kill.
What he said.
 

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Chipperz said:
I've been called a "psychic deadzone". I can walk into the most haunted places in the U.K. and have NOTHING happen to me or the people around me. Having said that, my old R.E. teacher had a convincing argument for believing in Heaven (which I'll shorten); "If you believe in Heaven and it's not there, you lose nothing. If you don't believe and it is, you'll look like an idiot." So yeah, I haven't encountered anything, but I believe.
Wait..isn't that Pascal's Wager?Perhaps I'm getting mixed up here.
It's not a convincing argument, though,
You shouldn't dedicate your life to something which may or may not happen, especially if this dedication hinders your enjoyment of this life. Abstinence and so forth.
 

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ive seen the same ghost twice in the exact same place

weirdly he looks a tad like my uncle who died when i was little...

also every now and then i see a shadow of a black cat following me, and my first ever can was a black one ^w^

so yeah... they could be mind tricks, im not ruling that out, but i believe in supernatural stuff to an extent (as in, i dont think harry potter is real XD)
 

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samaritan.squirrel said:
Chipperz said:
I've been called a "psychic deadzone". I can walk into the most haunted places in the U.K. and have NOTHING happen to me or the people around me. Having said that, my old R.E. teacher had a convincing argument for believing in Heaven (which I'll shorten); "If you believe in Heaven and it's not there, you lose nothing. If you don't believe and it is, you'll look like an idiot." So yeah, I haven't encountered anything, but I believe.
Wait..isn't that Pascal's Wager?Perhaps I'm getting mixed up here.
It's not a convincing argument, though,
You shouldn't dedicate your life to something which may or may not happen, especially if this dedication hinders your enjoyment of this life. Abstinence and so forth.
I dunno if there's a technical term, but why the hell would abstinence get you into heaven? I like the whole "being a good person" part of the whole "religion" thing, but I don't take the rules that go with it.

My point remains - you can;t prove it exists, but you can;t prove it doesn't, and believing in magic and werewolves and shit like that is just so much cooler.
 

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LimaBravo said:
Kukul said:
There is no supernatural.
Just because you can't find explaination for something, doesn't mean it happens against the laws of physics.
I've experienced some highly improbable coincidences and tricks played by my mind, but I was never dumb enough to call it "paranormal", "supernatural" or "magic".

Sorry for being such a buzz-kill.
Ditto
ok let me ask something before I go into something. Are you both atheist?
 

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I've seen a few things, heard a lot of stories from people whom I would trust with my life, and basically believe in a lot of supernatural stuff.
But then most of my friends are pagans, so they tend to have a LOT of stories to tell on the subject.

I don't believe in any of that harry potter bollocks or that kind of hollywood ghosts who can kill you with a funny look. But I do think that energy can... hang about, after you've popped your clogs.
 

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Kukul said:
0p3rati0n said:
Kukul said:
There is no supernatural.
Just because you can't find explaination for something, doesn't mean it happens against the laws of physics.
I've experienced some highly improbable coincidences and tricks played by my mind, but I was never dumb enough to call it "paranormal", "supernatural" or "magic".

Sorry for being such a buzz-kill.
your just like my friend. Just because you can't prove it means it's not there or it doesn't exist. That's why he clams he's atheist.

So here's a question. For something that is there and you can physically see it but we can never figure it out. What does that mean to you?
But there are no things you (really) see and "can't figure out" (unless you mean college textbooks of course :p). That's the whole point. Never in my life I've encountered anything that was worth saying "Wow, this is physically impossible" and neither have you.

Look, if you honestly believe that the laws that keep together trillions of galactics in our unimaginably huge universe make exceptions for creepy houses in which people died or crazy old women with decks of cards, you are a naive child that needs to get rid of his magical thinking.
Why must someone "need" to get rid of it, if it's not hurting anybody?
Is it really so wrong to have a little sense of magic in this world?
 

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I used to live in a house where I ALWAYS felt like I was being watched. This feeling stayed with me for so long, too. My mom had been divorced about since when I was born, and about two years ago she married my stepfather. Well, my stepfather had had a near-death, or rather, actual death experience. He died for a few minutes in the hospital until they resuscitated him, and ever since then he said he can see spirits. When we moved into my new house, it took me awhile to realize I didn't feel like I was being watched anymore. Eventually, I got into some kind of conversation with him about God and spirits and stuff and this is how I learned how he could see spirits and such. He told me about how when we lived in my previous house he could see an old lady. He described this person to my mom and she says "Oh my God, that's my great grandmother." So apparently he can see spirits and he says that there are none in this house, so....that's good! Don't have to feel like I'm constantly being watched.

That's pretty much as close as I've come to having an encounter. Although I've never seen a ghost, I would prefer not to. Kinda like how you really wanna see something but then afterwards you regret seeing it? That's kinda what it'd be like if I saw a ghost.

I swear I've had some kind of encounter though where I actually saw one, but for the life of me I can't remember it...
 

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Kukul said:
0p3rati0n said:
Kukul said:
There is no supernatural.
Just because you can't find explaination for something, doesn't mean it happens against the laws of physics.
I've experienced some highly improbable coincidences and tricks played by my mind, but I was never dumb enough to call it "paranormal", "supernatural" or "magic".

Sorry for being such a buzz-kill.
your just like my friend. Just because you can't prove it means it's not there or it doesn't exist. That's why he clams he's atheist.

So here's a question. For something that is there and you can physically see it but we can never figure it out. What does that mean to you?
But there are no things you (really) see and "can't figure out" (unless you mean college textbooks of course :p). That's the whole point. Never in my life I've encountered anything that was worth saying "Wow, this is physically impossible" and neither have you.

Look, if you honestly believe that the laws that keep together trillions of galactics in our unimaginably huge universe make exceptions for creepy houses in which people died or crazy old women with decks of cards, you are a naive child that needs to get rid of his magical thinking.
Wow, OK, you don't believe in the supernatural, fine, great, whatever. Do you have tio be such a jackass to someone who does, just because you believe in something else?

Wow.
 

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Kukul said:
There is no supernatural.
Just because you can't find explaination for something, doesn't mean it happens against the laws of physics.
I've experienced some highly improbable coincidences and tricks played by my mind, but I was never dumb enough to call it "paranormal", "supernatural" or "magic".

Sorry for being such A MASSIVE DOUCHE.
par·a·nor·mal (pr-nôrml) adj: Beyond the range of normal experience or scientific explanation.

therefore all tricks of the mind are paranormal events.

 

Chipperz

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Kukul said:
Chipperz said:
Kukul said:
0p3rati0n said:
Kukul said:
There is no supernatural.
Just because you can't find explaination for something, doesn't mean it happens against the laws of physics.
I've experienced some highly improbable coincidences and tricks played by my mind, but I was never dumb enough to call it "paranormal", "supernatural" or "magic".

Sorry for being such a buzz-kill.
your just like my friend. Just because you can't prove it means it's not there or it doesn't exist. That's why he clams he's atheist.

So here's a question. For something that is there and you can physically see it but we can never figure it out. What does that mean to you?
But there are no things you (really) see and "can't figure out" (unless you mean college textbooks of course :p). That's the whole point. Never in my life I've encountered anything that was worth saying "Wow, this is physically impossible" and neither have you.

Look, if you honestly believe that the laws that keep together trillions of galactics in our unimaginably huge universe make exceptions for creepy houses in which people died or crazy old women with decks of cards, you are a naive child that needs to get rid of his magical thinking.
Wow, OK, you don't believe in the supernatural, fine, great, whatever. Do you have tio be such a jackass to someone who does, just because you believe in something else?

Wow.
You're obviously new here... :D
You're expected to be a ****?

Wouldukindly said:
Chipperz said:
I've been called a "psychic deadzone". I can walk into the most haunted places in the U.K. and have NOTHING happen to me or the people around me. Having said that, my old R.E. teacher had a convincing argument for believing in Heaven (which I'll shorten); "If you believe in Heaven and it's not there, you lose nothing. If you don't believe and it is, you'll look like an idiot." So yeah, I haven't encountered anything, but I believe.
Cept if you believe in heaven and it ends up not existing, you've wasted your life on a lie. I hear the same argument about religion all the time.
If I'm being a good person, then I'm not wasting my life.


EDIT - OK, I'm not getting into this. I'm leaving this behind right now.
 

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Chipperz said:
samaritan.squirrel said:
Chipperz said:
I've been called a "psychic deadzone". I can walk into the most haunted places in the U.K. and have NOTHING happen to me or the people around me. Having said that, my old R.E. teacher had a convincing argument for believing in Heaven (which I'll shorten); "If you believe in Heaven and it's not there, you lose nothing. If you don't believe and it is, you'll look like an idiot." So yeah, I haven't encountered anything, but I believe.
Wait..isn't that Pascal's Wager?Perhaps I'm getting mixed up here.
It's not a convincing argument, though,
You shouldn't dedicate your life to something which may or may not happen, especially if this dedication hinders your enjoyment of this life. Abstinence and so forth.
I dunno if there's a technical term, but why the hell would abstinence get you into heaven? I like the whole "being a good person" part of the whole "religion" thing, but I don't take the rules that go with it.

My point remains - you can;t prove it exists, but you can;t prove it doesn't, and believing in magic and werewolves and shit like that is just so much cooler.
Most religions tend to focus on self-denial in this life in order to get into the afterlife of your choice.
The act of being a nice person is somewhat diminished when all you're after is the reward at the end, no?

You can't prove it exists, so why bother dwelling?All that energy could be used to make the world a more tolerable place.
If these things to turn out to exist, I'm sure we'll be able to rationalize them, and they'll become a normal.
 

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Kukul said:
0p3rati0n said:
LimaBravo said:
Kukul said:
There is no supernatural.
Just because you can't find explaination for something, doesn't mean it happens against the laws of physics.
I've experienced some highly improbable coincidences and tricks played by my mind, but I was never dumb enough to call it "paranormal", "supernatural" or "magic".

Sorry for being such a buzz-kill.
Ditto
ok let me ask something before I go into something. Are you both atheist?
I am. And?
ok good so let me go on. Why do you think there is no outer power (aka GOD) I think you put god as a person more or less a power. God is infinity, side eight, etc. That's why "he" has always been there/ here. When I get the question why doesn't god help us with our problems. It's because he helps our inner straight. He can help externally. But that's only if you say it was him and his work.

Look at nature it could never happen on it's own. If it did how. Evolution? Ok then how did that happen? the big bang? Ok then how did that happen? dust particles collecting in space where nothing is there? Ok then how did that happen? That's the dead end. That's the part scientists can't figure out and will never will.

Scientist also are trying to find out what powers the power of an atom. That's another thing they will never find out.

So work off that.
 

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Obtusifolius said:
I must be the only atheist and sceptic who wishes they believed in God and the supernatural
You're not. Here's another one.

Also, OP: define supernatural.