Different folks want different kinds of ads. We don't decide that, you know. The people buying the ad space do. They say, "We will give you X money if you give us Y ads."ZombieGenesis said:As someone else has pointed out though, there are two GIANT blank spaces on either side of the screen that would make perfect ad space. I don't have anything against ads themselves, I wouldn't own The World Ends With You if it wasn't for gaming advertisements, but why on earth block the use of The Escapist itself?Susan Arendt said:No, we don't run ads to get you to join the Pub Club, we run ads because that's how we earn revenue to keep the lights on. We recognize, however, that ads can be frustrating, and therefore make their absence one of the benefits of joining the Pub Club. We make far, far, FAR more money from the ads than we do from Pub Club subscriptions, I assure you, so it's not like we're trying to trick you.ZombieGenesis said:Same, I refuse to join Publishers Club simply because the ads are being placed there to pester and annoy people until they do.Kapol said:Me being put into a bad mood makes me not want to give money to the place that put me in that mood, it's as simple as that. That'd be like paying someone after they kick you in the nuts.lacktheknack said:...Or join the Pub Club, and stop getting ads.Kapol said:I find it extremely annoying. It takes up most of my screen and has been popping up on almost every screen now. I was considering getting the pub-club recently, but this kind of thing just pisses me off too much to want to give up my money. Oh well... not much I can really do besides stop visiting the site, and that's not going to happen as long as they provide entertaining videos and gaming news, so bleh.
It even covers the comments box- I'm writing this practically blind because I have Isaac Clarge hogging my screen right now.
It really is difficult to claim that such annoyance would have no affect on people buying into the PB out of sheer frustration- because by the sheer function of it, paying up for the members ticket would solve the problem. Whether intended or not, the function is certainly there.
Really, so they approach and say where they want the ad space? One would think that would be heavily subjective to the website itself, but then again maybe the whole "I cant see the page" issue everyone is having here is evidence of that problem.Susan Arendt said:Different folks want different kinds of ads. We don't decide that, you know. The people buying the ad space do. They say, "We will give you X money if you give us Y ads."ZombieGenesis said:As someone else has pointed out though, there are two GIANT blank spaces on either side of the screen that would make perfect ad space. I don't have anything against ads themselves, I wouldn't own The World Ends With You if it wasn't for gaming advertisements, but why on earth block the use of The Escapist itself?Susan Arendt said:No, we don't run ads to get you to join the Pub Club, we run ads because that's how we earn revenue to keep the lights on. We recognize, however, that ads can be frustrating, and therefore make their absence one of the benefits of joining the Pub Club. We make far, far, FAR more money from the ads than we do from Pub Club subscriptions, I assure you, so it's not like we're trying to trick you.ZombieGenesis said:Same, I refuse to join Publishers Club simply because the ads are being placed there to pester and annoy people until they do.Kapol said:Me being put into a bad mood makes me not want to give money to the place that put me in that mood, it's as simple as that. That'd be like paying someone after they kick you in the nuts.lacktheknack said:...Or join the Pub Club, and stop getting ads.Kapol said:I find it extremely annoying. It takes up most of my screen and has been popping up on almost every screen now. I was considering getting the pub-club recently, but this kind of thing just pisses me off too much to want to give up my money. Oh well... not much I can really do besides stop visiting the site, and that's not going to happen as long as they provide entertaining videos and gaming news, so bleh.
It even covers the comments box- I'm writing this practically blind because I have Isaac Clarge hogging my screen right now.
It really is difficult to claim that such annoyance would have no affect on people buying into the PB out of sheer frustration- because by the sheer function of it, paying up for the members ticket would solve the problem. Whether intended or not, the function is certainly there.
I'm confused about that too actually. I feel as if I've seen ads there before, but perhaps I'm just gettin confused with the full screen video ads. Thats a huge amount of space that is always visible. You can't possibly tell me that there isn't a single ad company that said they want to use that space for somethin.ZombieGenesis said:Really, so they approach and say where they want the ad space? One would think that would be heavily subjective to the website itself, but then again maybe the whole "I cant see the page" issue everyone is having here is evidence of that problem.
I've not seen these anywhere else though, why on earth are those massive blue wastelands not being fought over like prime realestate?
Simple answer, those blue gutters are only visible for higher resolution monitors. You'd be amazed at how many people still run at 1024x.ZombieGenesis said:Really, so they approach and say where they want the ad space? One would think that would be heavily subjective to the website itself, but then again maybe the whole "I cant see the page" issue everyone is having here is evidence of that problem.Susan Arendt said:Different folks want different kinds of ads. We don't decide that, you know. The people buying the ad space do. They say, "We will give you X money if you give us Y ads."ZombieGenesis said:As someone else has pointed out though, there are two GIANT blank spaces on either side of the screen that would make perfect ad space. I don't have anything against ads themselves, I wouldn't own The World Ends With You if it wasn't for gaming advertisements, but why on earth block the use of The Escapist itself?Susan Arendt said:No, we don't run ads to get you to join the Pub Club, we run ads because that's how we earn revenue to keep the lights on. We recognize, however, that ads can be frustrating, and therefore make their absence one of the benefits of joining the Pub Club. We make far, far, FAR more money from the ads than we do from Pub Club subscriptions, I assure you, so it's not like we're trying to trick you.ZombieGenesis said:Same, I refuse to join Publishers Club simply because the ads are being placed there to pester and annoy people until they do.Kapol said:Me being put into a bad mood makes me not want to give money to the place that put me in that mood, it's as simple as that. That'd be like paying someone after they kick you in the nuts.lacktheknack said:...Or join the Pub Club, and stop getting ads.Kapol said:I find it extremely annoying. It takes up most of my screen and has been popping up on almost every screen now. I was considering getting the pub-club recently, but this kind of thing just pisses me off too much to want to give up my money. Oh well... not much I can really do besides stop visiting the site, and that's not going to happen as long as they provide entertaining videos and gaming news, so bleh.
It even covers the comments box- I'm writing this practically blind because I have Isaac Clarge hogging my screen right now.
It really is difficult to claim that such annoyance would have no affect on people buying into the PB out of sheer frustration- because by the sheer function of it, paying up for the members ticket would solve the problem. Whether intended or not, the function is certainly there.
I've not seen these anywhere else though, why on earth are those massive blue wastelands not being fought over like prime realestate?
Gasp, scoundrils!Myan said:Simple answer, those blue gutters are only visible for higher resolution monitors. You'd be amazed at how many people still run at 1024x.ZombieGenesis said:Really, so they approach and say where they want the ad space? One would think that would be heavily subjective to the website itself, but then again maybe the whole "I cant see the page" issue everyone is having here is evidence of that problem.Susan Arendt said:Different folks want different kinds of ads. We don't decide that, you know. The people buying the ad space do. They say, "We will give you X money if you give us Y ads."ZombieGenesis said:As someone else has pointed out though, there are two GIANT blank spaces on either side of the screen that would make perfect ad space. I don't have anything against ads themselves, I wouldn't own The World Ends With You if it wasn't for gaming advertisements, but why on earth block the use of The Escapist itself?Susan Arendt said:No, we don't run ads to get you to join the Pub Club, we run ads because that's how we earn revenue to keep the lights on. We recognize, however, that ads can be frustrating, and therefore make their absence one of the benefits of joining the Pub Club. We make far, far, FAR more money from the ads than we do from Pub Club subscriptions, I assure you, so it's not like we're trying to trick you.ZombieGenesis said:Same, I refuse to join Publishers Club simply because the ads are being placed there to pester and annoy people until they do.Kapol said:Me being put into a bad mood makes me not want to give money to the place that put me in that mood, it's as simple as that. That'd be like paying someone after they kick you in the nuts.lacktheknack said:...Or join the Pub Club, and stop getting ads.Kapol said:I find it extremely annoying. It takes up most of my screen and has been popping up on almost every screen now. I was considering getting the pub-club recently, but this kind of thing just pisses me off too much to want to give up my money. Oh well... not much I can really do besides stop visiting the site, and that's not going to happen as long as they provide entertaining videos and gaming news, so bleh.
It even covers the comments box- I'm writing this practically blind because I have Isaac Clarge hogging my screen right now.
It really is difficult to claim that such annoyance would have no affect on people buying into the PB out of sheer frustration- because by the sheer function of it, paying up for the members ticket would solve the problem. Whether intended or not, the function is certainly there.
I've not seen these anywhere else though, why on earth are those massive blue wastelands not being fought over like prime realestate?
We run ads there all the time, but as Myan pointed out, they're not visible on all monitors, so not everyone wants their ads run there. You're also correct in thinking that ad types and placements vary from site to site. Ads are very complex business arrangements. Way back in the day, I sold ad space in magazines and people would pay premiums for placement on right hand pages, for appearing in the first quarter of the magazine, on the top half of the page, and so forth. I've never sold space on web sites, but I'm guessing there are even more variations they could possibly specify.shintakie10 said:I'm confused about that too actually. I feel as if I've seen ads there before, but perhaps I'm just gettin confused with the full screen video ads. Thats a huge amount of space that is always visible. You can't possibly tell me that there isn't a single ad company that said they want to use that space for somethin.ZombieGenesis said:Really, so they approach and say where they want the ad space? One would think that would be heavily subjective to the website itself, but then again maybe the whole "I cant see the page" issue everyone is having here is evidence of that problem.
I've not seen these anywhere else though, why on earth are those massive blue wastelands not being fought over like prime realestate?
This does its job perfectly.RobCoxxy said:![]()
I think I summed our feelings up nicely.
I guess that all makes sense. Doesnt make me stop being highly displeased at the ads, but I understand the whys a bit more.Susan Arendt said:We run ads there all the time, but as Myan pointed out, they're not visible on all monitors, so not everyone wants their ads run there. You're also correct in thinking that ad types and placements vary from site to site. Ads are very complex business arrangements. Way back in the day, I sold ad space in magazines and people would pay premiums for placement on right hand pages, for appearing in the first quarter of the magazine, on the top half of the page, and so forth. I've never sold space on web sites, but I'm guessing there are even more variations they could possibly specify.shintakie10 said:I'm confused about that too actually. I feel as if I've seen ads there before, but perhaps I'm just gettin confused with the full screen video ads. Thats a huge amount of space that is always visible. You can't possibly tell me that there isn't a single ad company that said they want to use that space for somethin.ZombieGenesis said:Really, so they approach and say where they want the ad space? One would think that would be heavily subjective to the website itself, but then again maybe the whole "I cant see the page" issue everyone is having here is evidence of that problem.
I've not seen these anywhere else though, why on earth are those massive blue wastelands not being fought over like prime realestate?
Indeed there are MANY variables! Geo-location, web browser (even down to the version), gender, income, cross-visiting habits, etc. And don't even get me started on the cost structures and how advertisers want to pay for performance only.Susan Arendt said:We run ads there all the time, but as Myan pointed out, they're not visible on all monitors, so not everyone wants their ads run there. You're also correct in thinking that ad types and placements vary from site to site. Ads are very complex business arrangements. Way back in the day, I sold ad space in magazines and people would pay premiums for placement on right hand pages, for appearing in the first quarter of the magazine, on the top half of the page, and so forth. I've never sold space on web sites, but I'm guessing there are even more variations they could possibly specify.shintakie10 said:I'm confused about that too actually. I feel as if I've seen ads there before, but perhaps I'm just gettin confused with the full screen video ads. Thats a huge amount of space that is always visible. You can't possibly tell me that there isn't a single ad company that said they want to use that space for somethin.ZombieGenesis said:Really, so they approach and say where they want the ad space? One would think that would be heavily subjective to the website itself, but then again maybe the whole "I cant see the page" issue everyone is having here is evidence of that problem.
I've not seen these anywhere else though, why on earth are those massive blue wastelands not being fought over like prime realestate?