Poll: To make a God.

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Wintermoot

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keep on living like a mortal or copy the earth and do whatever I want with the copy.
or destroy/kill myself after world peace is achieved.

also I would pick somebody with perfect mental health.
 
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NightHawk21 said:
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As an impartial judge I would say that I must know the location of the secret god giving super power thing so I can protect it from everyone. Then I take it for myself, instantly become god, and edit the OP so that I can choose myself and as such was in the right.

OT: If I can't choose myself than no one deserves to be god.
Actually this is the perfect answer, let me show you why.

As in all cases, the one who WOULDN'T want power is the best choice... because they would never abuse it.

You would.
Everyone would.
it is impossible to not abuse power in some way, even in the slightest, so yes, anyone would abuse it, but to abuse it the least amount? you would definitely not be the candidate if shown by your rash pick in your original statement.
Why would you want to give someone complete and utter control over your entire life?
if it made the world a better place for everyone? no hunger? no wars?

I would give up my freedom right now in a heartbeat.

Like in the original post, it would up to our pick, and i would pick someone i think to be very level headed who wouldn't interfere unless absolutely needed into peoples lives, i wouldn't pick a control freak who needs to enslave everyone.
The problem with that is you can't possibly know what a person will do with infinite power until you give it to them. We aren't talking about the power to just stop a war here or there, we're talking about the power to create everything in YOUR image of perfection, and I bet you everyone's image of perfection is different. Besides what do you consider to be necessary enough for God to interfere with?
while that is true, like i said i'd pick the person who is fearful/least likely to use it (and yes you once again can say you never know what they'll do, but if logic dictates anything i'd pick someone decent enough) so they would intervene when it truly meant the sway of millions of lives, not taking away everyday personal freedoms.

and while my idea of necessary might not be right, i'd hope the person would just stop global atrocities from happening (such as tsunami's, massive earthquakes, massive wars, etc..) and spend the rest of their time being a freelancer (going to a hospital and having everyone by a miracle cured with no one knowing it was "god", have them go to a 3rd world country the next and have their harvest grow extraordinarily amazing, etc..)
Just something to consider:
"It is weakness rather than wickedness which renders men unfit to be trusted with unlimited power." -- John Adams, 1788
while that is a nice quote, and i understand it and don't necessarily disagree with it, looking for the worst in every single being on the planet seems to be of the agenda to you, so i'm just going to drop it, as you must live around horrible people if you are so dead set on never giving someone the power to do superhero like things.
 

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Nope, sounds like a bad plan to me. One of those things that could never work out in reality as it did in theory. The strain of something like that one a human mind would probably result in insanity. Just think about the kind of dissociated state Dr. Manhattan ended up in, and he didn't just have that power thrust upon him, he actually contributed to its making. To suddenly have that kind of knowledge and power, the way it would cause one to relate to the world would be so overwhelmingly painful that I don't think anyone could maintain their sanity.

If someone had thrust such a responsibility upon me, I would probably use that power to either dissolve my own consciousness or cause myself to forget that I had the power in the first place, so that it could only manifest subconsciously.
A god who wiped his/her own memory would be a pretty awesome twist on the videogame amnesia trope.

I think if the person were literally omnipotent, they could just make themselves content. Still might not turn out well for humanity though...
Earth's spokesperson: "Since you granted everyone immortality, we're all miserable."
God: "Meh, that's cool."
 

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Hell no.

Say some dick stepped on the new god's new shoes, that guy's fucked. We're going to have a very angry, very vindictive god.
 

Henkie36

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I say no, because I don't want to give that much power to anyone, including myself. See, what I would do, is cure diseases, solve wars and other politics problems, and then try to save humanity from destroying itself and the Earth with it by killing half of them. And then a few people I don't like. When I am done with that, I'd probably use those powers like in ''Bruce Almighty'', when Jim Carrey just gets God's powers.
 

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Hell no.

Say some dick stepped on the new god's new shoes, that guy's fucked. We're going to have a very angry, very vindictive god.
You choose the god? Dont choose a dick.
 

GaiusD

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I suppose we would have to get into how one would perceive omniscience. If one could repress the information one was taking in, then I would agree with you. On the other hand, if one immediately felt the pain of innards being crushed within a collapsing exoskeleton as soon as his foot lands on an ant, then I would disagree. But this seems to be splitting hairs at this point. Good thought though.
 

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VulpisFox said:
I am an atheist but if I am wrong and there is a god I have a few ideas on why he doesn't cure diseases and fix everything and creates natural disasters. As for not fixing everything, it would be irresponsible. We would become dependent on God to fix everything and wouldn't be able to do anything ourselves and advance as a species. As for natural disasters, there may even be rules God has to obey to when creating things. I don't think there is a god and wouldn't want one to be created.
I am a catholic but I do feel the same way about this it's pretty much why I don't believe god really answers prayers that would manifest as something physical. I feel prayer is just a form of positive thinking since you can't just ask god to do your homework for you or to heal your grandma's terminal cancer because doing so wouldn't be fair.
 

tzimize

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Hell yes. Anything to change things up a bit. I'd give it to anyone if I cant have it myself, but I'd gladly take the power. As it is life holds no real surprises and I'll die before the really good stuff happens. I'd be ready for godhood ANYTIME.

werewolfsfury said:
VulpisFox said:
I am an atheist but if I am wrong and there is a god I have a few ideas on why he doesn't cure diseases and fix everything and creates natural disasters. As for not fixing everything, it would be irresponsible. We would become dependent on God to fix everything and wouldn't be able to do anything ourselves and advance as a species. As for natural disasters, there may even be rules God has to obey to when creating things. I don't think there is a god and wouldn't want one to be created.
I am a catholic but I do feel the same way about this it's pretty much why I don't believe god really answers prayers that would manifest as something physical. I feel prayer is just a form of positive thinking since you can't just ask god to do your homework for you or to heal your grandma's terminal cancer because doing so wouldn't be fair.
If God isnt really good for anything (like fixing stuff, diseases, helping mankind)...what the fuck is he for? :p
 

Kpt._Rob

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LordOrin said:
Kpt._Rob said:
Nope, sounds like a bad plan to me. One of those things that could never work out in reality as it did in theory. The strain of something like that one a human mind would probably result in insanity. Just think about the kind of dissociated state Dr. Manhattan ended up in, and he didn't just have that power thrust upon him, he actually contributed to its making. To suddenly have that kind of knowledge and power, the way it would cause one to relate to the world would be so overwhelmingly painful that I don't think anyone could maintain their sanity.

If someone had thrust such a responsibility upon me, I would probably use that power to either dissolve my own consciousness or cause myself to forget that I had the power in the first place, so that it could only manifest subconsciously.
A god who wiped his/her own memory would be a pretty awesome twist on the videogame amnesia trope.

I think if the person were literally omnipotent, they could just make themselves content. Still might not turn out well for humanity though...
Earth's spokesperson: "Since you granted everyone immortality, we're all miserable."
God: "Meh, that's cool."
It's been done before actually. Well, at least the case of a God that doesn't know that they are a God is the entire plot of the anime The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzimiya. I don't recall it ever having actually gone so far as to state that she made herself forget that she was a God, but that was kind of my impression of how things got the way they were. I imagine the pain of being a God would be just a little too great to bear.
 

HassEsser

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No. Even I were the chosen person. A human-made-god would only ruin everything, like they have everything else (I know that grammatically that makes no sense, but you get it).
 

Delsana

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tzimize said:
Hell yes. Anything to change things up a bit. I'd give it to anyone if I cant have it myself, but I'd gladly take the power. As it is life holds no real surprises and I'll die before the really good stuff happens. I'd be ready for godhood ANYTIME.

werewolfsfury said:
VulpisFox said:
I am an atheist but if I am wrong and there is a god I have a few ideas on why he doesn't cure diseases and fix everything and creates natural disasters. As for not fixing everything, it would be irresponsible. We would become dependent on God to fix everything and wouldn't be able to do anything ourselves and advance as a species. As for natural disasters, there may even be rules God has to obey to when creating things. I don't think there is a god and wouldn't want one to be created.
I am a catholic but I do feel the same way about this it's pretty much why I don't believe god really answers prayers that would manifest as something physical. I feel prayer is just a form of positive thinking since you can't just ask god to do your homework for you or to heal your grandma's terminal cancer because doing so wouldn't be fair.
If God isnt really good for anything (like fixing stuff, diseases, helping mankind)...what the fuck is he for? :p
Hundreds of thousands would argue that they have been cured illogically by such acts.

Remember that Catholics have the pope and that means a huge line of stringency and differences from Christianity... most Christians don't agree with them, but Christians in themselves do actually believe in the power of prayer.

Ask and without greed you will be given.
 

The Wykydtron

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Wouldn't everything start getting a bit boring if we could just say "yo God can you just give us a hand kthx"

Plus if you want to make a god just think of one, a god cannot be restrained into a mere human's mind right?
 

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I would, become god. My methods may be harsh but let's put it this way, "Fix the debt crisis and get along with china before I do to you what I just did to North Korea." is pretty effective.
 

tzimize

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Delsana said:
tzimize said:
Hell yes. Anything to change things up a bit. I'd give it to anyone if I cant have it myself, but I'd gladly take the power. As it is life holds no real surprises and I'll die before the really good stuff happens. I'd be ready for godhood ANYTIME.

werewolfsfury said:
VulpisFox said:
I am an atheist but if I am wrong and there is a god I have a few ideas on why he doesn't cure diseases and fix everything and creates natural disasters. As for not fixing everything, it would be irresponsible. We would become dependent on God to fix everything and wouldn't be able to do anything ourselves and advance as a species. As for natural disasters, there may even be rules God has to obey to when creating things. I don't think there is a god and wouldn't want one to be created.
I am a catholic but I do feel the same way about this it's pretty much why I don't believe god really answers prayers that would manifest as something physical. I feel prayer is just a form of positive thinking since you can't just ask god to do your homework for you or to heal your grandma's terminal cancer because doing so wouldn't be fair.
If God isnt really good for anything (like fixing stuff, diseases, helping mankind)...what the fuck is he for? :p
Hundreds of thousands would argue that they have been cured illogically by such acts.

Remember that Catholics have the pope and that means a huge line of stringency and differences from Christianity... most Christians don't agree with them, but Christians in themselves do actually believe in the power of prayer.

Ask and without greed you will be given.
I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say.
 

NightHawk21

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gmaverick019 said:
NightHawk21 said:
gmaverick019 said:
NightHawk21 said:
gmaverick019 said:
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gmaverick019 said:
NightHawk21 said:
Delsana said:
NightHawk21 said:
As an impartial judge I would say that I must know the location of the secret god giving super power thing so I can protect it from everyone. Then I take it for myself, instantly become god, and edit the OP so that I can choose myself and as such was in the right.

OT: If I can't choose myself than no one deserves to be god.
Actually this is the perfect answer, let me show you why.

As in all cases, the one who WOULDN'T want power is the best choice... because they would never abuse it.

You would.
Everyone would.
it is impossible to not abuse power in some way, even in the slightest, so yes, anyone would abuse it, but to abuse it the least amount? you would definitely not be the candidate if shown by your rash pick in your original statement.
Why would you want to give someone complete and utter control over your entire life?
if it made the world a better place for everyone? no hunger? no wars?

I would give up my freedom right now in a heartbeat.

Like in the original post, it would up to our pick, and i would pick someone i think to be very level headed who wouldn't interfere unless absolutely needed into peoples lives, i wouldn't pick a control freak who needs to enslave everyone.
The problem with that is you can't possibly know what a person will do with infinite power until you give it to them. We aren't talking about the power to just stop a war here or there, we're talking about the power to create everything in YOUR image of perfection, and I bet you everyone's image of perfection is different. Besides what do you consider to be necessary enough for God to interfere with?
while that is true, like i said i'd pick the person who is fearful/least likely to use it (and yes you once again can say you never know what they'll do, but if logic dictates anything i'd pick someone decent enough) so they would intervene when it truly meant the sway of millions of lives, not taking away everyday personal freedoms.

and while my idea of necessary might not be right, i'd hope the person would just stop global atrocities from happening (such as tsunami's, massive earthquakes, massive wars, etc..) and spend the rest of their time being a freelancer (going to a hospital and having everyone by a miracle cured with no one knowing it was "god", have them go to a 3rd world country the next and have their harvest grow extraordinarily amazing, etc..)
Just something to consider:
"It is weakness rather than wickedness which renders men unfit to be trusted with unlimited power." -- John Adams, 1788
while that is a nice quote, and i understand it and don't necessarily disagree with it, looking for the worst in every single being on the planet seems to be of the agenda to you, so i'm just going to drop it, as you must live around horrible people if you are so dead set on never giving someone the power to do superhero like things.
That quote has nothing to do with being surrounded by horrible people or seeing the worst in everyone. It is about recognizing that no one person is so perfect that each person has the capacity to make mistakes. Give someone power over everyone else and not only do you alienate that person to the extent that you make them feel better than everyone else, but you also make anything they do have for whatever reason they do it affect literally the entire universe. You, this God, and I, we all don't share the same view of a perfect universe and give unlimited power and being told to "make things better" will lead to each of us producing very different results and arguably quite a few "mistakes" in the minds of everyone who does not share our view.
 

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tzimize said:
werewolfsfury said:
VulpisFox said:
I am an atheist but if I am wrong and there is a god I have a few ideas on why he doesn't cure diseases and fix everything and creates natural disasters. As for not fixing everything, it would be irresponsible. We would become dependent on God to fix everything and wouldn't be able to do anything ourselves and advance as a species. As for natural disasters, there may even be rules God has to obey to when creating things. I don't think there is a god and wouldn't want one to be created.
I am a catholic but I do feel the same way about this it's pretty much why I don't believe god really answers prayers that would manifest as something physical. I feel prayer is just a form of positive thinking since you can't just ask god to do your homework for you or to heal your grandma's terminal cancer because doing so wouldn't be fair.
If God isnt really good for anything (like fixing stuff, diseases, helping mankind)...what the fuck is he for? :p
my guess is that he is just watching over us and making sure that demons and stuff aren't coming out of the woodwork. besides in the first couple of pages in the bible adam and eve got kicked out of paradise as punishment and were left to have to work for a living and so would their offspring
 

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The Wykydtron said:
Wouldn't everything start getting a bit boring if we could just say "yo God can you just give us a hand kthx"

Plus if you want to make a god just think of one, a god cannot be restrained into a mere human's mind right?
Is an interesting life for you worth the millions of deaths from HIV? These reasoning starts to sound a little selfish.