Poll: To the anime haters

Recommended Videos

Urgh76

New member
May 27, 2009
3,083
0
0
Whatever style it is that One Piece uses



I love this look myself. It has enough lee-way for silliness, yet can become extremely serious when the situation arrives.



The same can also be said for Gash bell and others.

This style is just extremely flexible, and just appealing to watch.
 

axlryder

victim of VR
Jul 29, 2011
1,862
0
0
Pegghead said:
axlryder said:
Gantz style
snip
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, OH WOW.

In all seriousness, while I don't hate anime I've always had a problem with the animation. I've seen one or two more modern animes and I've found it doesn't really apply there, but the animation in some of the older shows was just...creepily unnatural, which gave the impression that they hired a team of experienced, dedicated artist for all the cells and backgrounds then just left the job of animation to a two year old. I guess if you could take anything from that it would be that a balance between the quality of the art and the animation must be maintained.

And uh, I'll turn a blind eye to your hot-linking :3
Oh, uh, there fixed.
 

TheVioletBandit

New member
Oct 2, 2011
579
0
0
axlryder said:
Escapists, I need your help. Particularly, the help of those who don't really like the general anime style. I need to know EXACTLY why you don't like anime style and if there's anything that could remedy your distaste without just saying "make it not anime". I also need to know if there are any anime styles you consider most tolerable or like the best. This is strictly talking about the visuals; there's no need to mention the story or character aspects.

Here are some images that correlate with the poll
Miyazaki style
Berzerk style
Gantz style
Hellsing style
cowboy bebop
samurai champloo

if there are any others feel free to list them down below.

Also, since it won't let me edit the poll, it should say they all "look" the same for the last option.

I accidentally voted for "they all look like crap", but I meant to vote for "Miyazaki style", so I guess take that into consideration when looking at the poll. I love the Miyazaki style, though I never thought of it as anime, but rather a cartoon movie that just happens to be from Japan, because the style is not very animeish. Nevertheless, "Howls Moving Castle" and "Spirited Away" are my favorites I think. I only wish that he would make a movie where the leading character was a male for once.
 

ccggenius12

New member
Sep 30, 2010
717
0
0
Saulkar said:
Lastly, I hate the hyper stylization of everything related to fighting (including shouting out the name of your attack), I do not know what it is but I can tolerate this.

Lastly I cannot stand how anime mechs work. Why make something super large that moves like a human instead of just using a human.
Compare this:

I guess in the end it all boils down not to the art style at all which is greatly endeared to me but rather the stylised acting and the complete disregard for physics. Western mechs and gunfights are not anymore realistic (Except for Gears, they do not break the laws of physics in any way), they just try to acknowledge that physics actually exist.
To be fair, both of those things exist for cultural reasons. The name of the attack is announced because it's believed that one's spirit has as much power as one's physical body. The announcement is a way to channel that. The mech differences are due to the fact that weapons are perceived in a fundamentally different way in the east than they are in the west. Whereas we see them as tools, they see weapons as extensions of the self. It's all cool and metaphoric and junk. Extra Credits explained it way better than I did.
I'm not saying that you must like it because it's the way it should be, I'm just saying there's a reason things are the way they are. (And to be fair, the Japanese invented mechs. Mazinger is ~ a decade older than Battletech.) I got nothing for the defiance of physics, I think that's just rule of cool.

Also, barely anything moves in an anime because moving things costs money. Most anime is made with just enough to get the story along. And the story tends to take forever because of broadcasting constraints. If you don't fill your timeslot, it will be taken from you, and if you don't want to bastardize the source material, you pad it so the next manga volume comes out and you have something to work with. This is mostly a problem with shonen anime, and is not representative of anime at large, just most of the stuff that makes it to America.

OT: Obviously, I don't dislike anime. However, my favorite style is what Gainax puts out, (No coincidence, they also have a much larger budget than the average company.) while my favorite series is Lupin III. I feel it strikes a great balance between action and surrealism, and the characters have tons of personality. And the series itself has some great(interesting) history behind it.
 

Eddie the head

New member
Feb 22, 2012
2,324
0
0
I picked other. I don't much care about anime. I don't know why you would care if I do or not. God forbid I don't like the same thing as you it must be born out of ignorance.
 

axlryder

victim of VR
Jul 29, 2011
1,862
0
0
Eddie the head said:
I picked other. I don't much care about anime. I don't know why you would care if I do or not. God forbid I don't like the same thing as you it must be born out of ignorance.
If you don't know and don't care then I'm not sure why your post seems so defensive. This is for a project I'm working on. If you're not even interested in discussing anime or why you don't like it then your aversion to it is of little consequence to me.
 

Saulkar

Regular Member
Legacy
Aug 25, 2010
3,140
2
13
Country
Canuckistan
ccggenius12 said:
Saulkar said:
Lastly, I hate the hyper stylization of everything related to fighting (including shouting out the name of your attack), I do not know what it is but I can tolerate this.

Lastly I cannot stand how anime mechs work. Why make something super large that moves like a human instead of just using a human.
Compare this:

I guess in the end it all boils down not to the art style at all which is greatly endeared to me but rather the stylised acting and the complete disregard for physics. Western mechs and gunfights are not anymore realistic (Except for Gears, they do not break the laws of physics in any way), they just try to acknowledge that physics actually exist.
To be fair, both of those things exist for cultural reasons. The name of the attack is announced because it's believed that one's spirit has as much power as one's physical body. The announcement is a way to channel that. The mech differences are due to the fact that weapons are perceived in a fundamentally different way in the east than they are in the west. Whereas we see them as tools, they see weapons as extensions of the self. It's all cool and metaphoric and junk. Extra Credits explained it way better than I did.
I'm not saying that you must like it because it's the way it should be, I'm just saying there's a reason things are the way they are. (And to be fair, the Japanese invented mechs. Mazinger is ~ a decade older than Battletech.) I got nothing for the defiance of physics, I think that's just rule of cool.

Also, barely anything moves in an anime because moving things costs money. Most anime is made with just enough to get the story along. And the story tends to take forever because of broadcasting constraints. If you don't fill your timeslot, it will be taken from you, and if you don't want to bastardize the source material, you pad it so the next manga volume comes out and you have something to work with. This is mostly a problem with shonen anime, and is not representative of anime at large, just most of the stuff that makes it to America.

OT: Obviously, I don't dislike anime. However, my favorite style is what Gainax puts out, (No coincidence, they also have a much larger budget than the average company.) while my favorite series is Lupin III. I feel it strikes a great balance between action and surrealism, and the characters have tons of personality. And the series itself has some great(interesting) history behind it.
I am well aware of all of this and I thank you for putting it all down since I was too tired and would likely butcher it.
 

Eddie the head

New member
Feb 22, 2012
2,324
0
0
axlryder said:
Eddie the head said:
I picked other. I don't much care about anime. I don't know why you would care if I do or not. God forbid I don't like the same thing as you it must be born out of ignorance.
If you don't know and don't care then I'm not sure why your post seems so defensive. This is for a project I'm working on. If you're not even interested in discussing anime or why you don't like it then I honestly don't care about your aversion to it.
Because it's annoying to hear for the 100th time the reason you don't like something is you are ignorant of it. Witch is exactly what it looks like you are doing here.
 

axlryder

victim of VR
Jul 29, 2011
1,862
0
0
Eddie the head said:
axlryder said:
Eddie the head said:
I picked other. I don't much care about anime. I don't know why you would care if I do or not. God forbid I don't like the same thing as you it must be born out of ignorance.
If you don't know and don't care then I'm not sure why your post seems so defensive. This is for a project I'm working on. If you're not even interested in discussing anime or why you don't like it then I honestly don't care about your aversion to it.
Because it's annoying to hear for the 100th time the reason you don't like something is you are ignorant of it. Witch is exactly what it looks like you are doing here.
Well I believe you've misinterpreted my intentions. The "haters" thing was just to grab people's attention. The rest of the post is merely trying to understand what it is that non-anime fans don't like about the visual style of anime. That's it. Feel free to throw in your two cents though. If it's just "because I don't like how it looks" that's as valid a reason as any (though not super helpful for the project I'm working on).
 

Eddie the head

New member
Feb 22, 2012
2,324
0
0
axlryder said:
Well I believe you've misinterpreted my intentions. The "haters" thing was just to grab people's attention. The rest of the post is merely trying to understand what it is that non-anime fans don't like about the visual style of anime. That's it. Feel free to throw in your two cents though. If it's just "because I don't like how it looks" that's as valid a reason as any (though not super helpful for the project I'm working on).
I don't believe that at all. Regardless the story of most anime run together making it hard for me to care about any of the story, the charters I find completely unlikable, the art style gives me a headache because it looks cheep and motionless. There that help?
 

irishda

New member
Dec 16, 2010
968
0
0
The over-exaggeration, hyper-sensationalizing, and generally the overall look of the characters just makes me turn away from it.
 

bobmus

Full Frontal Nerdity
May 25, 2010
2,285
0
41
I don't watch any form of cartoon to be honest. They're not shown at the hours I watch TV, and if there's no human emotion for me to care about, there's got to be humour. I find anime lacking in this department, so it's a no for me.
 

TK421

New member
Apr 16, 2009
826
0
0
Which one of those is Bleach? What about Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z? Those are the animes I like. OOHHHH and Zoids. I freaking love Zoids. And Gundam Wing.
 

DioWallachia

New member
Sep 9, 2011
1,546
0
0
ex275w said:
3) They watched Naruto/DBZ/Sailor Moon/Bleach/Code Geass/Death Note and thought it was cliched crap, which some of it is.
Elaborate on the Code Geass / Death Note being cliched. If you know a better series with Magnificients Bastards then say it :D

In the meantime... YOU

Yeah, you the OP! You didnt put Hokuto No Ken style or Jojo's Bizarre Adventure style or Fate Stay Night style.

I am dissapoint

(The first one who finds a Frollo image with the "Quasimodo, I am dissapoint" wins a price :D )
 

Torrasque

New member
Aug 6, 2010
3,441
0
0
You forgot many many other different styles =|
Most of these styles are pretty old school serious styles of animation.
What about PSG, Zero no Tsukaima, Birdy: The Mighty, Nyan Koi, Lucky Star styles?
 

axlryder

victim of VR
Jul 29, 2011
1,862
0
0
Eddie the head said:
axlryder said:
Well I believe you've misinterpreted my intentions. The "haters" thing was just to grab people's attention. The rest of the post is merely trying to understand what it is that non-anime fans don't like about the visual style of anime. That's it. Feel free to throw in your two cents though. If it's just "because I don't like how it looks" that's as valid a reason as any (though not super helpful for the project I'm working on).
I don't believe that at all. Regardless the story of most anime run together making it hard for me to care about any of the story, the charters I find completely unlikable, the art style gives me a headache because it looks cheep and motionless. There that help?

Well considering I already stated the purpose of this thread is to gather information for my project on the previous page, I think you can take me at my word. I generally don't bother lying to someone about the purpose of my threads just in case someone else tries to call BS on the harmlessness of my intentions. Or perhaps it was all a ruse, and after the 5th page I'm going to jump out and say "HA! SEE, you're all IGNORANT! You FEWLS!!!"

Oh NO! I've said too much already.

Regardless, thank you for trying.
 

axlryder

victim of VR
Jul 29, 2011
1,862
0
0
Torrasque said:
You forgot many many other different styles =|
Most of these styles are pretty old school serious styles of animation.
What about PSG, Zero no Tsukaima, Birdy: The Mighty, Nyan Koi, Lucky Star styles?
I know OTL

the poll only had so many options though. I'm sooorrryyy!!!!

*jumps off of building*
 

Torrasque

New member
Aug 6, 2010
3,441
0
0
axlryder said:
Torrasque said:
You forgot many many other different styles =|
Most of these styles are pretty old school serious styles of animation.
What about PSG, Zero no Tsukaima, Birdy: The Mighty, Nyan Koi, Lucky Star styles?
I know OTL

the poll only had so many options though. I'm sooorrryyy!!!!

*jumps off of building*
Don't include a poll next time then. Your thread shouldn't have to suffer because you want to include a poll =|

Edit: why the hell did it quote twice...
 

axlryder

victim of VR
Jul 29, 2011
1,862
0
0
DioWallachia said:
ex275w said:
3) They watched Naruto/DBZ/Sailor Moon/Bleach/Code Geass/Death Note and thought it was cliched crap, which some of it is.
Elaborate on the Code Geass / Death Note being cliched. If you know a better series with Magnificients Bastards then say it :D

In the meantime... YOU

Yeah, you the OP! You didnt put Hokuto No Ken style or Jojo's Bizarre Adventure style or Fate Stay Night style.

I am dissapoint

(The first one who finds a Frollo image with the "Quasimodo, I am dissapoint" wins a price :D )
I only had so much room, so I just put the major seinen/shonen anime that popped into my head. Since this is for a project I'm working on, the art styles have to be in a more Seinen vein. Thus Fate Stay isn't really appropriate and Hokuto No Ken is a bit too muscular to be practical.

HOWEVER.... I forgot Jojo. I....I'm ashamed. I mean, I wouldn't use that style, but still.