Poll: unmasking Quarians/Tali

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RanD00M

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Infernai said:
Betcha didn't see that coming did you? xD
Of course I wouldn't, I don't watch Doctor Who, so that reference would completely escape me. Well it would if I hadn't seen that clip with that guy from that one episode where.

OT: I frankly don't care. I don't care for the Quarians, and I don't care for Tali. She died in my suicide mission in ME2, and I had no real emotion to it. However Miranda got hurt and I got mad.
 

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Thunderhorse31 said:
That said, if they do decide to reveal how Quarians might look in general, I imagine the best way to do it - without it feeling like a contrived "ZOMG look no mask!!11!" moment - is for your team to perhaps come across a group that had been ambushed. They find a few dead quarians, and some of them - it doesn't need to be more than one or two - had their masks broken/shattered in the attack. You can make out their features more clearly, but they still might be obscured with dirt/glass/blood/whathaveyou. The community gets a clearer glimpse under the mask, but the mystery of what an unblemished quarian might look like remains intact.

Just an idea.
My curiousity demands that I know!! It doesn't have to be Tali, (in fact it needs to not be) but I totally have to have a glimpse. This guy's got the right idea.

Not every masked man needs to be unmasked. One of the reasons why Watchmen was so clever, with the whole Rorshach thing... he was a regular, pimply ginger-haired man, and liked his "true face" better. Tali's face should remain a mystery. You can see her eyes and part of her face through the helmet anyway. Other Quarians, though, the sky's the limit!
 

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PrototypeC said:
Not every masked man needs to be unmasked. One of the reasons why Watchmen was so clever, with the whole Rorshach thing... he was a regular, pimply ginger-haired man, and liked his "true face" better. Tali's face should remain a mystery. Other Quarians, though, the sky's the limit!
That's a pretty bad example seeing as Rorschach was unmasked...
 

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RatRace123 said:
I say no, they've been masked this long, and many people have their own idea what they'd look like.
If they got unmasked, a lot of people would no doubt be disappointed.
It'd be like if Master Chief was unmasked.
I never understood that. People get worked up because something ended up not the way they saw it happening. ITs like at the end of Doomsday Arcade, where they dont show the evil guy in charge because people would be dissapointed (though there im pretty sure it was for comedic effect). If the fans are dissapointed with what the Quarians look like, they can GTFO, its not their ame, but Bioware's, and Bioware can do what ever the hell they want with it. (not a happy thought from someone who wants ME3 to return to the RPG-ness of ME1, but still, it is their game.)
 

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GiantRaven said:
PrototypeC said:
Not every masked man needs to be unmasked. One of the reasons why Watchmen was so clever, with the whole Rorshach thing... he was a regular, pimply ginger-haired man, and liked his "true face" better. Tali's face should remain a mystery. Other Quarians, though, the sky's the limit!
That's a pretty bad example seeing as Rorschach was unmasked...
And he was a regular, ugly guy. It ruined the mystery... it made people upset. Of course, since this is Watchmen, that was the point. Bioware, I hope, isn't trying to screw their players.
 

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KarumaK said:
Internet Kraken said:
KarumaK said:
Internet Kraken said:
Ultratwinkie said:
wait she is racist?
Did you somehow not notice her intense hatred for the Geth and desire to wipe them all out, even if it means throwing away millions of lives in a pointless war?
But the Geth are not a species they're machines? You can't be racist against a machine...

Maybe you could be metalist? Do the Geth divide themselves up by trace element; "Damn you Ironites always keeping a Cobalt down!"
No, the Geth are a species. Being machines doesn't change this.
Yes, yes in fact it does. That's kinda how biological terms work.

Not biological? The term does not apply.
Going strictly by the definitions we have for these words now doesn't make much sense, since the meanings of these words have expanded in Mass Effect. The Mass Effect games consider the Geth to be a species, so I don't see what your point is.
 

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The fact you don't know what they look like is the elure of Tali. If we knew what they look like, we'd just see her as an endearing person.
 

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oplinger said:
Garrus is just a badass, so he gets his own separate paragraph. He doesn't need to be believable, or well done. He's Garrus! >.>
In my game, Garrus died at the end. Someone hit my berserk button, I got soooo mad. I was like, "NO! DAMMIT GARRUS, YOU'RE TOO AWESOME TO BE ALLOWED TO DIE LIKE THAT!"

OT: I think they should leave her mask on UNLESS THERE'S GOOD REASON TO TAKE IT OFF. Like, if she gets killed (Please, Bioware, don't let this happen), Sheppard could close her eyes. You know, all that. I'm sure I could think of other reasons for her to take her mask off, but I really don't want to use my brain too much at the moment.
 

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I romanced Tali in hopes of getting to see her face. I was hopelessly crushed! *cries*

I don't think it'd be anything major but it would be nice, the way they did her non-reveal "reveal" seemed like a cop-out to be honest.
 

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MiracleOfSound said:
[img height=300 ]http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/098/3/9/Tali_by_FruitLoop360.jpg[/img]
I gotta say, IF they choose to unmask Tali, and I'm not sure they should, this is spot on what I'd hope she'd look like.
 

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I say keep her masked. Because the image that people have in their head will be infinetly better than what Bioware could show. I agree with that one guy who said let us see some no name Quarians face and then we can build a general idea of that in our own heads.

It's like for anyone who has seen Sold Out: A Threevning with Kevin Smith. When he talks about how Harvey Wienstien wanted Kevin to actually show what Pillowpants looks like in Clerks 2.

Also, Who else is with me in the fact that I grew to like Tali, because of her personality (That and I needed someone with Decryption skill. So that's another reason for me) and how she and Shepard conversed in Mass Effect 1. Also because she was the one female on your ship that Shepard couldn't have as a Love Interest. I took her on every mission because I enjoyed her character. She was mysterious, and the Quarians have one of the best backgrounds BECAUSE they have to stay in the Enviro-suits.

I am just a little tired of people clamoring "People only chose Tali cause of 'DEM HIPS AND ASS' When that argument could be used for Miranda aswell. I mean come on, How many ass shots did they show of Miranda vs Tali. More Miranda I can tell you that.
 

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P.Tsunami said:
bl4ckh4wk64 said:
I assume you're talking about Ashley.
You would be wrong. Internet Kraken was clearly talking about Tali.

bl4ckh4wk64 said:
If you took the time to talk to her, you would realize that she wasn't in fact racist. She has completely legitimate reasons for being distrusting of other alien races, I mean, the first time we ever have contact with the Turians, they almost wipe out a whole planet, completely destroying the Williams family reputation and getting Ashley shit postings like the one on Eden Prime. Before she met Shepherd she would probably never have been able to get higher than gunnery chief and she would probably have never had a shipboard posting.
So... she has legitimate reasons for being racist. Racism isn't defined by legitimacy, you know.
I'm not saying she's racist at all. I'm saying she's distrusting.
 

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Internet Kraken said:
Going strictly by the definitions we have for these words now doesn't make much sense, since the meanings of these words have expanded in Mass Effect. The Mass Effect games consider the Geth to be a species, so I don't see what your point is.
...What?

Are you seriously defining words based on a video game instead of oh say; a dictionary? No, nope, I'm done here.
 

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KarumaK said:
Internet Kraken said:
Going strictly by the definitions we have for these words now doesn't make much sense, since the meanings of these words have expanded in Mass Effect. The Mass Effect games consider the Geth to be a species, so I don't see what your point is.
...What?

Are you seriously defining words based on a video game instead of oh say; a dictionary? No, nope, I'm done here.
When what you are discussing is the video game, then I can totally see how he goes on what the video game says. The video game (as any work of fiction) determines what any specific word means within its' own narrative. Obviously, in the Mass Effect-universe the word species has changed in meaning to mean any sentient being whatever or not it is organic.
 

Internet Kraken

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KarumaK said:
Internet Kraken said:
Going strictly by the definitions we have for these words now doesn't make much sense, since the meanings of these words have expanded in Mass Effect. The Mass Effect games consider the Geth to be a species, so I don't see what your point is.
...What?

Are you seriously defining words based on a video game instead of oh say; a dictionary? No, nope, I'm done here.
I'm defining words based on the video game we are currently discussing. I fail to see where the problem is. Technically using the term racist to describe hatred to other species isn't accurate by out current definition of racist, but we're all still using it for that purpose. Why? Because that's how they use it in Mass Effect, and we're discussing Mass Effect.
 

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RatRace123 said:
MiracleOfSound said:
They'll show us a Quarian in ME3 I think. There'll be too much nerd-rage if they don't.

If not, there's always the pervs over at DeviantArt.

[img height=300 ]http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/098/3/9/Tali_by_FruitLoop360.jpg[/img]
That picture... is deeply rooted in the uncanny valley... can't unsee.
I agree. It's less sexy/cute/cool, and more creepy.

Though when you consider how many main Council-Space species are based on human physiology and proportions, that's to be expected.
Which alien species do you interact with most commonly in Mass Effect? Turians, Quarians and Asari. By far most are those.

The flaw with that rendition is that it tries too hard to make the Quarians appear even more human; something we don't have a problem with Turians and Asari (who are just blue skinned female humans with different heads...similar design philosophy to the original Klingons, who were practically human apart from the facial makeup and hair, though later iterations of the show corrected this) because they're distinctively not human.