Poll: Using exploits in games, Cheating?

[ElPatron]

true, and yeah i would say that is fair in your opinion, i do hate the hitbox glitch mixed with bunnyhops

That's why a "lighter" punishment (removal of certain items and reduced XP rates for a month or two) is more suitable than a ban.

One thing is a exploit that has it's roots in the game engine itself, so it's only a "feature" and everyone can try to replicate it. It made Quake matches harder and jump servers in CoD2 way more fun.

Other thing is an exploit based on some kind of mistake made by the devs and use it in a way it was never intended to be used.

 

[GrandmaFunk]

exploits are not the same thing as cheating, but they have the same impact on the community, much like griefing.

if you choose to do something that is knowingly against the spirit of the game and which reduces the enjoyment of your fellow gamers, then that's wrong....whether it's called cheating/hacking/griefing/exploiting is a matter of technique, not of morality or justifiability.

exploits are definitely in a grayer area of this concept than straight-up hacking, and because of that it's harder to come up with proper ways to handle it. personally I think it comes down to the community to enforce these kind of things themselves...something along the line of house/server rules.

 

[NotSoLoneWanderer]

Depends on the exploit. If it gives you an unfair advantage in the game then a Ban should be implemented.

 

[MetallicaRulez0]

If you're exploiting a known glitch, that is cheating. UNLESS! It's known by the developer and they decide to leave it in. Double Shot/Quad Shot in Halo 2 for example. Yes, it's a glitch. But it became so ingrained in the community, and improved the skill cap of the game so much, that they left it in.

Getting under the map or something like that though, fucking ban those douche bags already. Tired of it.

 

[ph0b0s123]

I say BAN THEM, for they are the more evil of our fair circle known to others as "Gamers" and our order can NOT stand for such deception and dishonorable tactics and decisions. They must be castrated, they must be tarred and feathered, and most importantly of all, they must have their power lines CUT.

"Other" is a NECESSARY poll option, else it requires me to type this out.

Why do you need an 'other' option? From what you said I thought you would be catered for with option A:. If I had put an 'other' option would you not still have had to have written what your opinion was since other could mean anything, so you still would have had to have written as much as you did....

 

[Delsana]

I say BAN THEM, for they are the more evil of our fair circle known to others as "Gamers" and our order can NOT stand for such deception and dishonorable tactics and decisions. They must be castrated, they must be tarred and feathered, and most importantly of all, they must have their power lines CUT.

"Other" is a NECESSARY poll option, else it requires me to type this out.

Why do you need an 'other' option? From what you said I thought you would be catered for with option A:. If I had put an 'other' option would you not still have had to have written what your opinion was since other could mean anything, so you still would have had to have written as much as you did....

Because Ban was not serious enough, excessive and equal punishment was necessary.

 

[ph0b0s123]

I say BAN THEM, for they are the more evil of our fair circle known to others as "Gamers" and our order can NOT stand for such deception and dishonorable tactics and decisions. They must be castrated, they must be tarred and feathered, and most importantly of all, they must have their power lines CUT.

"Other" is a NECESSARY poll option, else it requires me to type this out.

Why do you need an 'other' option? From what you said I thought you would be catered for with option A:. If I had put an 'other' option would you not still have had to have written what your opinion was since other could mean anything, so you still would have had to have written as much as you did....

Because Ban was not serious enough, excessive and equal punishment was necessary.

Completely disagree with you, but your option of harsher punishment being deserved is now an option that can be voted on...

 

[ph0b0s123]

If you're exploiting a known glitch, that is cheating. UNLESS! It's known by the developer and they decide to leave it in. Double Shot/Quad Shot in Halo 2 for example. Yes, it's a glitch. But it became so ingrained in the community, and improved the skill cap of the game so much, that they left it in.

Getting under the map or something like that though, fucking ban those douche bags already. Tired of it.

So how would those people initially using the "Double Shot/Quad Shot" in Halo 2 know if they using a banning exploit or one that was going to be embraced by the community. This is the whole problem with painting all exploits as needing punishment and trying to get gamers to go against one of the basic things a gamer does, in trying to push a virtual worlds limits.

Gaming becomes lesser due to this, with more pressure to conform in play strategy rather than being creative. I for one am not impressed with the way things are going. As long as people who are the sheep of the gaming world are happy though then it is aright.

 

[HappyPillz]

It isn't cheating exactly. But definitely poor sportsmanship.

 

[Tommeh Brownleh]

It's not cheating. It's using a glitch to your advantage. In MW3 I use a glitch with the Sleight of Hand perk and Hybrid Sight to make the flip up time faster. I don't know any, but it's saved my life a couple of times.