Poll: Veganism?

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Merteg

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Do you believe the veganist way of life is healthy?

I personally don't think it is a good way to live, but that's just me.
 

Neonbob

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I don't endorse it at all, mainly because I don't care about the state of being for the animals that suffer to eventually become my food, and I love the taste of meat. As for the health part, I think they have to take vitamin supplements or something along those lines in order to get all the nutrients that most people get from a regular diet.
 

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Neonbob said:
I don't endorse it at all, mainly because I don't care about the state of being for the animals that suffer to eventually become my food, and I love the taste of meat. As for the health part, I think they have to take vitamin supplements or something along those lines in order to get all the nutrients that most people get from a regular diet.
Plants have a state of being too. They too must die for us to eat them. Why are animals worth more?
 

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Personally, I don't think it's the healthiest way to live. A human body requires certain nutrients that only meats can provide, and taking supplements in their stead just doesn't cut it. Now, I'm not saying I condone the sometimes cruel conditions animals are raised in for the purpose of eating. I'll buy some free-range eggs, sure. I'll buy some cruelty-free chuck roast, alright. But I'm not going to say animals shouldn't be eaten at all.

That said, I don't care for the smarmy, elitist attitude some vegans seem to cop when they find out I eat meat. I'm more than happy to eat double my share to make up for the meat they passed on.
 

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Merteg said:
Neonbob said:
I don't endorse it at all, mainly because I don't care about the state of being for the animals that suffer to eventually become my food, and I love the taste of meat. As for the health part, I think they have to take vitamin supplements or something along those lines in order to get all the nutrients that most people get from a regular diet.
Plants have a state of being too. They too must die for us to eat them. Why are animals worth more?
Because in my arbitrary judgment, plants do not count as life. I know they do scientifically, but big deal. :p
Space Spoons said:
Personally, I don't think it's the healthiest way to live. A human body requires certain nutrients that only meats can provide, and taking supplements in their stead just doesn't cut it. Now, I'm not saying I condone the sometimes cruel conditions animals are raised in for the purpose of eating. I'll buy some free-range eggs, sure. I'll buy some cruelty-free chuck roast, alright. But I'm not going to say animals shouldn't be eaten at all.

That said, I don't care for the smarmy, elitist attitude some vegans seem to cop when they find out I eat meat. I'm more than happy to eat double my share to make up for the meat they passed on.
Eating their share right in front of them is even more satisfying! You should try it.
 

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Merteg said:
Neonbob said:
I don't endorse it at all, mainly because I don't care about the state of being for the animals that suffer to eventually become my food, and I love the taste of meat. As for the health part, I think they have to take vitamin supplements or something along those lines in order to get all the nutrients that most people get from a regular diet.
Plants have a state of being too. They too must die for us to eat them. Why are animals worth more?
Sentience, mostly. I'll be honest though: I don't like to think about it. If I did, I probably would become vegan. I probably would become vegan anyway if not for three things: bacon, shrimp, and cheeseburgers.
 

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It depends, do you take the "politics" and the bothering of others with that into account?
 

Merteg

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So it's okay to eat plants instead of animals because you can see that your hurting the animal, while the plant just sits there and let's you kill and eat it?

That hardly seems reasonable.
 

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Merteg said:
So it's okay to eat plants instead of animals because you can see that your hurting the animal, while the plant just sits there and let's you kill and eat it?

That hardly seems reasonable.
I read somewhere that plants have this pulse, and when they're endangered, the pulse speeds up. So in a way, they can object.

Still, they're lower on the food chain, so they get eaten. It doesn't have to be reasonable; it's science.
 

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I really couldn't give two shits whether or not you eat meat, just don't try to tell me I'm a monster for eating meat.
 

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I have plenty of vegan friends, and they are all good. As long as a person is still getting their essential nutrition, what they eat doesn't bother me.

I also have plenty of vegetarian friends, one or two raw foodists, and one or two almost entirely carnivore.

I don't see why other people's diets or beliefs about food should worry me. And I think the HURRR VEGANS SUX bullshit that gets bandied around on the net is just bizarre and stupid.
 

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Because animals are SENTIENT. Animals FEEL PAIN. Christ, people who won't eat anything that casts a frigging shadow aren't trying to be good to the environment; they're SCARED OF SHADOWS. It's OBVIOUS, people.
Although I can't but simply agree with all of your views, may I point you to a study that strongly indicates that there is an african tree that will send out some sort of (still not understood) signal when being eaten (it's leaves that is) to the other trees of the same species nearby, which causes them so release a mild toxin which in turn causes their leaves to taste bitter?

Just something I read a while ago.
 

Merteg

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ix_tab said:
I have plenty of vegan friends, and they are all good. As long as a person is still getting their essential nutrition, what they eat doesn't bother me.

I also have plenty of vegetarian friends, one or two raw foodists, and one or two almost entirely carnivore.

I don't see why other people's diets or beliefs about food should worry me. And I think the HURRR VEGANS SUX bullshit that gets bandied around on the net is just bizarre and stupid.
That's why it's a poll, I want to know your opinion.
 

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Oopsie said:
orannis62 said:
Because animals are SENTIENT. Animals FEEL PAIN. Christ, people who won't eat anything that casts a frigging shadow aren't trying to be good to the environment; they're SCARED OF SHADOWS. It's OBVIOUS, people.
Although I can't but simply agree with all of your views, may I point you to a study that strongly indicates that there is an african tree that will send out some sort of (still not understood) signal when being eaten (it's leaves that is) to the other trees of the same species nearby, which causes them so release a mild toxin which in turn causes their leaves to taste bitter?

Just something I read a while ago.
Epic win. Do you know what that tree is called?
 

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i really, REALLY hate vegans... no idea why... probably because i think its just silly, but meh... and its not that i hate people who don't like eating meat... if you're a vegetarian because you hate the taste, fine, whatever, but if its because you have moral problems with eating animals that are bred for eating? bah!

OH and i have this rediculous theory about how they're trying to kill everyone:
vegans are trying to get people to not eat meat, which will end up shutting down the meat industry if they succeeded, which would mean the economy would collapse because the meat industry is an important part of it, which means that there's no money for people and governments to give to, say, cancer research, which means cancer isn't fixed and more people die. ergo, vegans are trying to kill us all using cancer...

bit of a leap... but it makes sense in a ridiculous way... muahahahaha
 

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Merteg said:
Epic win. Do you know what that tree is called?
I've read that over three years ago in some sort of biology magazine, I can't remember the species. I still remember know the most common eater of the leaves were giraffes though.
 

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Merteg said:
ix_tab said:
I have plenty of vegan friends, and they are all good. As long as a person is still getting their essential nutrition, what they eat doesn't bother me.

I also have plenty of vegetarian friends, one or two raw foodists, and one or two almost entirely carnivore.

I don't see why other people's diets or beliefs about food should worry me. And I think the HURRR VEGANS SUX bullshit that gets bandied around on the net is just bizarre and stupid.
That's why it's a poll, I want to know your opinion.
And...that's why I voted yes, and gave you my opinion?
 

Merteg

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Eisenfaust said:
i really, REALLY hate vegans... no idea why... probably because i think its just silly, but meh... and its not that i hate people who don't like eating meat... if you're a vegetarian because you hate the taste, fine, whatever, but if its because you have moral problems with eating animals that are bred for eating? bah!

OH and i have this rediculous theory about how they're trying to kill everyone:
vegans are trying to get people to not eat meat, which will end up shutting down the meat industry if they succeeded, which would mean the economy would collapse because the meat industry is an important part of it, which means that there's no money for people and governments to give to, say, cancer research, which means cancer isn't fixed and more people die. ergo, vegans are trying to kill us all using cancer...

bit of a leap... but it makes sense in a ridiculous way... muahahahaha
Tradition is one of the strongest forces.

If somone's tradition is to eat meat, they will brake every law and social taboo to eat it.
 

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Personally, I get what vegetarians are thinking; they don't want to kill animals. What I don't get about veganism is their objection to eating eggs, milk and other such products. Milking a cow doesn't harm it, and eggs never became living beings capable of feeling pain, etc.

I, myself, am an almost complete carnivore.
 

Merteg

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ix_tab said:
Merteg said:
ix_tab said:
I have plenty of vegan friends, and they are all good. As long as a person is still getting their essential nutrition, what they eat doesn't bother me.

I also have plenty of vegetarian friends, one or two raw foodists, and one or two almost entirely carnivore.

I don't see why other people's diets or beliefs about food should worry me. And I think the HURRR VEGANS SUX bullshit that gets bandied around on the net is just bizarre and stupid.
That's why it's a poll, I want to know your opinion.
And...that's why I voted yes, and gave you my opinion?
Yup. You made it sound like I was telling everyone veganism is horrible and gave them no room edgewise.