Poll: was i out of line?

[tofulove]

there alot of things i like about the eu, but the no spanking your child mentality alot of them have is bs. you should of bin able to smack that kids ass for that. after words the mom should of bin like well if a kid broke my window and broke my fence, id smack his ass to.

i don't believe in beating a kid, and i think time out and grounding (with out spanking) should happen in most cases. but when a kid has the nerve to break you window, than break you fence to hide the fact he broke your window, his ass needs a smack plus some grounding.

 

[Delsana]

Child rapist and murderers in this world, sir... Sure you see a guy on a street corner grabbing some young girl by the arm and you stand back and go "I'm sure theirs a logical reason for it." then the next day the girls actual parents are on TV looking for their dead child.

Hell go one step further then that, some people are just fucked in the head. I had a guy that tried to fight me because he was upset that when he tried to enter the bathroom stall I was in that I slammed the door shut. Like it or not, you can't trust total strangers to dish out punishment...

...Which bare in mind that when people talk about the days when a village would raise a child, a parent pretty much knew EVERYONE pretty well. These days people are more isolated.

Oh look, the "everyone's a paedophile" fallacy.

This bullshit, along with "everyone's a terrorist" is how the government manages to constantly find new ways to invade our private lives. After all, it's for our -and dear little Timmy's- safety!

Try to use your common sense instead of paranoia in the future, perhaps?

So you're saying that you're NOT FOR THE CHILDREN? So... you're a pedophile or a rapist.. or a kidnapper then, since you're not supportive of protecting the children.

You sir are a very bad man.

 

[Xaryn Mar]

Well what you did (twisting their ears) are illegal in Denmark and had it happened here the mother would have been in her right to call the police on you (child abuse, and yes that is abuse, is not taken lightly)

 

[Delsana]

there alot of things i like about the eu, but the no spanking your child mentality alot of them have is bs. you should of bin able to smack that kids ass for that. after words the mom should of bin like well if a kid broke my window and broke my fence, id smack his ass to.

i don't believe in beating a kid, and i think time out and grounding (with out spanking) should happen in most cases. but when a kid has the nerve to break you window, than break you fence to hide the fact he broke your window, his ass needs a smack plus some grounding.

You really misinterpreted what happened.

The kid was playing a game, the ball hit the window, the window broke, he climbed over the fence to get the ball which also broke. He wasn't breaking the window or fence on purpose and it's sheer hypocrisy for you to want uber punishment for this kid when you did the same shit as a kid yourself.

Capcha is "jump the gun", and you sure jumped the gun.

 

[Iwata]

The Primarch forgives you, brother.

 

[tofulove]

there alot of things i like about the eu, but the no spanking your child mentality alot of them have is bs. you should of bin able to smack that kids ass for that. after words the mom should of bin like well if a kid broke my window and broke my fence, id smack his ass to.

i don't believe in beating a kid, and i think time out and grounding (with out spanking) should happen in most cases. but when a kid has the nerve to break you window, than break you fence to hide the fact he broke your window, his ass needs a smack plus some grounding.

You really misinterpreted what happened.

The kid was playing a game, the ball hit the window, the window broke, he climbed over the fence to get the ball which also broke. He wasn't breaking the window or fence on purpose and it's sheer hypocrisy for you to want uber punishment for this kid when you did the same shit as a kid yourself.

Capcha is "jump the gun", and you sure jumped the gun.

sounded like he was trying to get the ball and avoid taking responsibility for the window while in the process breaking the fence. every other time the kids went to the door. this time they tried to sneak in and cause more damage. if the kid had some honesty marched his but to the door and apologized, than in my mind did not deserve any serious punishment at all. a little time out and a stern reminder to be careful. but he tried to hide his crime by sneaking in. and for that i stand by my principles, spare the rod spoil the child.

p.s. when i was a kid i did not break peoples shit, and when i did i took responsibility for it. i was rarely spanked cause i had the common sense not to be a tool. the few times my ass got a wooping i deserved it. maybe if kids had a little more incentive to not act like tools, we have less tools in the world.

 

[zidine100]

They broke into your property, and in doing so broke your fence. You had every moral right to throw them out by the ear.

Mind you, you can expect to be sued, and sued hard.

Some parents would let there kids away with this sort of thing without any sort of punishment after all, im just going to go out on a limb and guess she is this sort of parent.

 

[tofulove]

I don't think you were, not even for the ear twisting (which frankly sounds totally situationally appropriate, and is exactly how it would have happened if it had been a movie). Kids should have known better than to trespass, assuming they knew it was someone's property. Lady shouldn't have yelled at you for it, but her reaction is quite understandable. She was angry, and probably a bit scared about what you were doing; odds are nobody has ever actually laid hands on her kids before (and I'd say that after trespassing and vandalizing your private property, somebody probably ought to).

Could you have handled it better? Yeah, you could have just tracked down their parents and courteously requested compensation. But at the same time, your actions will have a rather more lasting impact on all of them. And you didn't try to kill anyone, or cause permanent harm. Nobody was threatened. And everything was paid for. As long as there's no legal problems, I'd say you did fine.

Legally, it was child abuse.

There's a very big legal problem here.

Again, I sense hypocrisy for everyone forgetting what happened when they were young kid...

Depends on the region.
And by legal problems, I mean depending on whether anyone wanted to press charges. Generally, the police don't fuss with things unless people take issue with them.

And what exactly is it that we're all forgetting here?

You guys all broke things when you were really young, or your parents did, and you didn't want to take responsibility and you fled... and now look at you all taking issue with it and acting as if it's the worst thing ever and punishment ever made you stop.. bahaha such hypocrisy.

Right, but we got caught, we got punished, and we were forced to take responsibility for ourselves. What they did is not the worst thing ever, its not good, but nobody's dead or psychologically scarred. But I'm glad to hear that they got caught, they got punished, and someone took responsibility for it. Maybe one of these days they'll shape up to be decent, responsible adults like many of the other kids who did stupid things and got punished. But one thing's for sure, if they don't get punished then they probably won't learn to behave themselves.

And Punishment did, usually, make me stop.

Punishment doesn't stop things, it makes you get better at hiding it. Your "usually" indicates this. It's not punishment that gives you self-introspection, it's maturity and development of self through experiences based on your own capacity and capabilities and drives. Not the forced drives of others.

sure it does, if some one murders some one else, and you kill them for there crime. they wont be doing any more murdering. for major crimes make examples out of people, for minor crimes focus on teaching them a better way. rapist, murders, people with multiple assaults and so on deserve the harsh punishments as a warning to others, more petty crimes focus on the rehabilitation to make them a functioning member of society.

 

[bluecrimson]

If the mom doesn't want to discipline her 'precious little angel' then by all means you were justified. Sure, that hurts, but they'll live.

 

[BeeGeenie]

I have to ask...

What was the point of twisting their ears? Really.

What does that achieve?

It uses pain to force compliance without doing any actual damage.

In other news, HELL YES you were justified, and anyone who complains that you shouldn't have hurt poor baby's ear needs to stop mollycoddling and get real. This is not abuse, this is a life lesson, not to mention you were removing a trespasser from your property in a way that did no lasting harm.

*Slow Clap*

 

[tofulove]

I have to ask...

What was the point of twisting their ears? Really.

What does that achieve?

It uses pain to force compliance without doing any actual damage.

In other news, HELL YES you were justified, and anyone who complains that you shouldn't have hurt poor baby's ear needs to stop mollycoddling and get real. This is not abuse, this is a life lesson, not to mention you were removing a trespasser from your property in a way that did no lasting harm.

*Slow Clap*

to many wienies in this world that think if you let kids get away with crime they will see the errors of there ways and stop doing crimes. if you keep letting kids get away with crime, they will just keep doing crimes. you need to teach them through punishment crime does not pay. or they will learn it in fact does. and as an adult when you break a window you don't get a ear twist, you got a large fine. and when you tress pass and break property doing it, in many places you get a felony. ill take a ear twist as a kid to learn not to do it so i don't have to spend a year in jail as an adult.

 

[Kungfu_Teddybear]

I understand why you were pissed off, but yes, you were out of line. While those children deserved to be punished, they are not your children to punish.

 

[stonethered]

there alot of things i like about the eu, but the no spanking your child mentality alot of them have is bs. you should of bin able to smack that kids ass for that. after words the mom should of bin like well if a kid broke my window and broke my fence, id smack his ass to.

i don't believe in beating a kid, and i think time out and grounding (with out spanking) should happen in most cases. but when a kid has the nerve to break you window, than break you fence to hide the fact he broke your window, his ass needs a smack plus some grounding.

You really misinterpreted what happened.

The kid was playing a game, the ball hit the window, the window broke, he climbed over the fence to get the ball which also broke. He wasn't breaking the window or fence on purpose and it's sheer hypocrisy for you to want uber punishment for this kid when you did the same shit as a kid yourself.

Capcha is "jump the gun", and you sure jumped the gun.

sounded like he was trying to get the ball and avoid taking responsibility for the window while in the process breaking the fence. every other time the kids went to the door. this time they tried to sneak in and cause more damage. if the kid had some honesty marched his but to the door and apologized, than in my mind did not deserve any serious punishment at all. a little time out and a stern reminder to be careful. but he tried to hide his crime by sneaking in. and for that i stand by my principles, spare the rod spoil the child.

p.s. when i was a kid i did not break peoples shit, and when i did i took responsibility for it. i was rarely spanked cause i had the common sense not to be a tool. the few times my ass got a wooping i deserved it. maybe if kids had a little more incentive to not act like tools, we have less tools in the world.

except that it wouldn't actually give them an incentive. I argued that side earlier, albeit differently. you should go back and read how that went.

 

[tofulove]

there alot of things i like about the eu, but the no spanking your child mentality alot of them have is bs. you should of bin able to smack that kids ass for that. after words the mom should of bin like well if a kid broke my window and broke my fence, id smack his ass to.

i don't believe in beating a kid, and i think time out and grounding (with out spanking) should happen in most cases. but when a kid has the nerve to break you window, than break you fence to hide the fact he broke your window, his ass needs a smack plus some grounding.

You really misinterpreted what happened.

The kid was playing a game, the ball hit the window, the window broke, he climbed over the fence to get the ball which also broke. He wasn't breaking the window or fence on purpose and it's sheer hypocrisy for you to want uber punishment for this kid when you did the same shit as a kid yourself.

Capcha is "jump the gun", and you sure jumped the gun.

sounded like he was trying to get the ball and avoid taking responsibility for the window while in the process breaking the fence. every other time the kids went to the door. this time they tried to sneak in and cause more damage. if the kid had some honesty marched his but to the door and apologized, than in my mind did not deserve any serious punishment at all. a little time out and a stern reminder to be careful. but he tried to hide his crime by sneaking in. and for that i stand by my principles, spare the rod spoil the child.

p.s. when i was a kid i did not break peoples shit, and when i did i took responsibility for it. i was rarely spanked cause i had the common sense not to be a tool. the few times my ass got a wooping i deserved it. maybe if kids had a little more incentive to not act like tools, we have less tools in the world.

Good lord, it's like listening to myself four years ago. Failure to capitalize 'I's', passionate, retroactive justification, and you dislike societal trends too.

If you had been white knighting someone I'd be a bit scared right now.

im glad your so much better than me<3 your large ego has show me the errors of my ways. when im 4 years older i hope i learn how to let other people know im in fact better than them and they to can become like me. and this is relevant to the discussion how?

 

[RagTagBand]

Not out of line in grabbing them or restraining them or demanding compensation but twisting their ears is unnecessary in just about every situation - The only reason to do that is to inflict pain. Something you don't have any right to do to anyone, ever.

You're pissed that they caused unnecessary damage to your property but bemused at why their mom is pissed that you caused unnecessary pain to their kid? Are you stupid or just that self-centred?

 

[Fwee]

If you wouldn't have done anything, they would have damaged your property and walked off without a care in the world. The parent in this case was mostly angry because she knew she was in the wrong and was merely looking for a way to get out of her responsibility. They were trespassing on your property and causing damage; you were well within your rights to restrain them, painful or no. I hope they get psychological damage from the fact a stranger hurt them. It'll just prove what genetically inferior shits they are.
Bottom line: Your children are your own problem. No one has to give a single shiny shit about them. In fact, you have to keep your children in line and out of the way of the rest of us. After all (if this is something that happened in the U.S.), we are forced to pay fucking taxes for your fucking kids and we didn't even have anything to do with the fact that you're irresponsible with your reproductive systems.
Be responsible: Keep your idiotic, ugly little monsters the hell out of our way.

 

[stonethered]

there alot of things i like about the eu, but the no spanking your child mentality alot of them have is bs. you should of bin able to smack that kids ass for that. after words the mom should of bin like well if a kid broke my window and broke my fence, id smack his ass to.

i don't believe in beating a kid, and i think time out and grounding (with out spanking) should happen in most cases. but when a kid has the nerve to break you window, than break you fence to hide the fact he broke your window, his ass needs a smack plus some grounding.

You really misinterpreted what happened.

The kid was playing a game, the ball hit the window, the window broke, he climbed over the fence to get the ball which also broke. He wasn't breaking the window or fence on purpose and it's sheer hypocrisy for you to want uber punishment for this kid when you did the same shit as a kid yourself.

Capcha is "jump the gun", and you sure jumped the gun.

sounded like he was trying to get the ball and avoid taking responsibility for the window while in the process breaking the fence. every other time the kids went to the door. this time they tried to sneak in and cause more damage. if the kid had some honesty marched his but to the door and apologized, than in my mind did not deserve any serious punishment at all. a little time out and a stern reminder to be careful. but he tried to hide his crime by sneaking in. and for that i stand by my principles, spare the rod spoil the child.

p.s. when i was a kid i did not break peoples shit, and when i did i took responsibility for it. i was rarely spanked cause i had the common sense not to be a tool. the few times my ass got a wooping i deserved it. maybe if kids had a little more incentive to not act like tools, we have less tools in the world.

Good lord, it's like listening to myself four years ago. Failure to capitalize 'I's', passionate, retroactive justification, and you dislike societal trends too.

If you had been white knighting someone I'd be a bit scared right now.

im glad your so much better than me<3 your large ego has show me the errors of my ways, when im 4 years older i hope i learn how to let other people know im in fact better than them and they to can become like me. and this is relevant to the discussion how?

It wasn't, I edited.