Poll: What do you use: Console or PC?
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Good point. I forgot those console gamers don't have keyboards to type with. Or fingers, only thumbs for waggling thumbsticks.Doom972 said:
Anyway, The Escapist is not a small gaming community. There are many others but 3.5x the number of PC gamers than console gamers just cannot be accurate of either this community or gamers as a whole. If there were truly so many of us, why aren't there more threads on gaming hardware, renderers, mods, trainers, wishing for better UIs, lamenting how games development is 4 years stunted and other things that affect us?
This is the tragic truth [http://www.statisticbrain.com/skyrim-the-elder-scrolls-v-statistics/] of gaming. This game more than any other is optimal on PC. Yet it was developed for consoles, ported to PC and only 14% of us bought it on that platform. We don't even get more than 8 hotkeys as standard, that's how lazy they were in porting it to PC that they couldn't be arsed to unlock the use of 9 and 0.
That game sold only 14% of total sales on PC, that is why I cannot for a second believe that we outnumber consolers 3.5 to 1 when they out-buy us (unarguably at greater cost for inferior product) by 6 to 1.
This poll is a lie or the people who voted PC are liars, not really gamers or software pirates. Or the 1500 missing console gamers are batting away furiously with their stumps-for-hands, unable to click a mouse button, nor have their mewling cries understood as they asked someone to vote for them. Or possibly held hostage by the OP in an effort to fool the industry into returning to making games for the eminent platform.
Why is there never an option for both? I have a PC and a 360, I use them both equally. Why do I have to be biased?
Currently been using my 360 because building my new pc so far has been a pain in the ass.(delivery times and product costs and availability)
Usually I switch between both with exclusives playing a role for the 360 and RTS gaming and some others for the PC and I don't normally play that many FPS's on the pc because I suck at K+M controls but fair better on the gamepad since it suits my play style with relative ease.
Though I could do with getting more games from Steam if they just put the ones I want on there.
Usually I switch between both with exclusives playing a role for the 360 and RTS gaming and some others for the PC and I don't normally play that many FPS's on the pc because I suck at K+M controls but fair better on the gamepad since it suits my play style with relative ease.
Though I could do with getting more games from Steam if they just put the ones I want on there.
Seriously, I'd put it down to pc gamers as a whole being more into the gaming scene on forums. That's going to be the biggest factor. Oh, and don't believe sales stats, they never include digital. EA usually makes around 30-40% of its income from PC, as do actiblizzard. Another funny fact, for pc to have sold 14% every pc gamer online on steam (and it wasn't required to be so, offline is fine) would have to have been playing around a minimum of 6 hours of Skyrim every day for over a month to achieve the concurrency stats on steam. Sales figures don't work for PC, stop paying attention to them. I adore the idea that people went through the trouble to fix the poll though. How's the tinfoil hat?KingsGambit said:
Those stats are provided by Bethesda, Zenimax and Steam. In the case of Skyrim, it uses Steamworks for activation, copy protection, patching, DLC, Steam Workshop, etc. Every single PC copy of Skyrim bar none, bought and installed by PC gamers is registered on Steam.Doom972 said:
I own a PC, PS3, and some older consoles, and they all get roughly equal amounts of play time. If I owned a better PC, I'd probably be a PC gamer first and foremost, but keep the consoles around for exclusives and bad ports, but my laptop isn't always up to par right now, so it's an even split.
Combination of both. I use my PC for most of my shooting and all my strategy but all my adventuring and platforming is done on a console.
As another member mentioned earlier, this website, regardless of what you apparently want to believe, doesn't represent the gaming community in its entirety. This place might have a PC bias, while another forum might have an X-Box 360 bias, etc.KingsGambit said:
Claiming that people not talking hardware is evidence is kinda BS. For one, I see topics and posts asking for advice on how to build gaming PCs or where to get parts cheapest from time to time. And beyond that, this isn't the 90's anymore. Many PC gamers out there (I wouldn't be surprised if it was the majority of them, to be honest) aren't even particularly familiar with hardware. Thanks to games being developed for aging consoles and the requirements not varying quite as much as they used to, you can pick up any pre-built PC from a Best Buy without even looking at its specs and be reasonably confident that it can run every game that came out from the launch of X-Box 360/PS3 up to today.
EDIT: Hell, the first topic in Gaming Discussion after I posted this was Chairman Miaow's "What Laptop to buy" asking for advice on gaming laptops.
Calling people who voted PC either liars, not gamers, or pirates is ludicrously immature. I voted PC. I've been a PC gamer first and foremost since the mid 90's. The majority of my favorite games are PC-exclusive (System Shock 2, Fallout 2) or games that were developed for the PC then got ported to console later (like Deus Ex and its godawful PS2 port). I've paid for every single game I own (excluding ones that I got as birthday/Christmas presents over the years, which were all legitimately bought as well as far as I'm aware), and actively hate the pirating community's guts. So yeah... your blanket statement that includes me just because you "feel" like you're somehow all-knowing of this one particular community? Complete and utter garbage to me.
I use my PC and my PS3 nearly the same amount, so I put potato because there isn't an option for both.
The only reason I use consoles is exclusives and split screen. If someone would make PC games split screen, I would never buy another console ever again. But for some reason, no one has yet
The only reason I use consoles is exclusives and split screen. If someone would make PC games split screen, I would never buy another console ever again. But for some reason, no one has yet
You don't have to upgrade a PC all the time to 'play' the newest games better than a console doesosric90 said:
My old laptop (the one i bought 5 years ago for £500) would still play games at above console level easily. That's a laptop! They're much more expensive for gaming.You also don't need to max a game at 60fps to play it.
I say this because a hd5870, bought in 2009, will 'play' games at 1920x1080, minimum 30fps, at at least medium settings up until 2015 easily. That's £200 or so of GPU (at the time of purchase) for 6 years of good quality gaming. Note that it currently also maxes most games (including so-close-it-may-as-well-be max in hungry games like battlefield 3) as of now, 3 years after release. The only reason i got a gtx670 is because i'm a tech geek, someone in my family is now using the hd5870 and is very happy with it.
We need to dispel the idea of maxing is the only way to play. We also need to encourage people to aim for the peak of price/performance and not keep buying £60 cards every year when a £200 card will last 5-6 years at good settings
P.S. Note that if the rumors are correct about the 720/PS4, a HD5870 will play console games until 2022. Seriously. It's depressing as hell (for console players at least).
Yeah, but thankfully it's rarely the DLC that matters.Mimsofthedawg said:As long as you have fun, that's all that matters.osric90 said:
What didn't you like about the PS3 out of curiosity?
Outside of Halo, I hate the 360. I don't like their online system, I don't like their GUI, I don't like any of their exclusives, and I think it's overpriced for what you get.
And I'm really angry that they get all the DLC first... lol. O
CoD? Not on my PC, activision.
Skyrim? mods ahoy!
Admittedly PS3 users get the raw deal (skyrim was also just a complete bust on ps3 with all the issues), but at least they get BF3 maps a week early i guess? It's something
Exactly, hence why we know concurrency rates, and how 14% is physically impossible due to concurrency rates. Tell me how 280k players can be playing skyrim on PC at once in the first week most of the time when Skyrim only sold around 7m copies in that week. What you're saying is that at any point during the first week, one in three people who owned skyrim on PC were playing it. At any point in the day. That's an insane number of people considering timezones ect.KingsGambit said:
If we (roughly) scale it with, say, xbox sales of CoD and that concurrency rate (CoD on 360 will have higher playercount/sale ratios due to more 12-18 year olds so it's a good low estimate, as Skyrim will have a lower concurrency rate than CoD 360 so the 'multiplier' will be higher), Skyrim will have sold around 3-4m copies on PC making it around 30-40% of sales. Which puts it in line with most revenue reports for PC gaming. It's really strange that considering it's what we see in financial reports. Very strange indeed.