Poll: what was wrong with halo?

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bloodymassacre

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i always liked the Halo series, due to the somewhat challenge i got on the hardest difficulty that you can't get on other games now adays, Halo Reach wass my personal favorite, especially the ending, all of the halo games have a great storyline and characters that keep the story alive, the only thing that ticked me off was the cliffhanger at the end of halo 3. Halo is a worked series that has made millions of dollars and will continue to make so
 

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Hamish Durie said:
People are always telling me why they hate halo but I want to know why and ill be very dissapointed if all of the complaints are the douches on the XBL (the douche comment is aimed at the 8 year old teabagers and people who rage and say what are you doing give me the sniper rifle and get out of the tank why did you shoot me) sorry to those who where offended
I feel your pain, brother. I wish XBLA would allow us to filter players based on age groups also. Those immature kids that shoot you on the back because, God forbid, you take THEIR sniper rifle.
 

bloodymassacre

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Like everything else, this is baised on opinion and no matter how you look at it, no matter what opinion is stated, it will always be right, if someone says the game is horrible than yes it is horrible, TO THEM, but to others the game is amazing, me personally i like a good stpryline and gameplay while still staying difficult. But no matter what an opinion is an opinion, you don't need to go on rants about how shitty a game is or how great it is, its an opinion question and whatever your opinion, it will always be right to someone else
 

bloodymassacre

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An opinion is an opinion, no matter what is stated here, there WILL be people who are fans of the series and haters of the series, so i can't see why some people just can't get along, its a opinion everyone has one over every topic. Even though not everyone agrees
 

darkdraconus

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It's a good game series, but, since I don't have Xbox Live, I've only played the story modes and they're way too short.
 

Yossarian1507

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There's nothing wrong with Halo. Then again, there's also nothing outstanding with it, so that's the problem for people who are sick of hearing others praising it left and right.

I have the same deal with HL2 and Dragon Age: Origins, so I can understand those people.
 

Pedro The Hutt

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plexxiss said:
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Eh, it started a trend I guess. It never really 'evolved', much unlike the namesake.
In fairness it evolved more than the FPSs it competes with.
And this is the part where you explain how Halo has evolved where its direct competitors haven't. ;D

In my experience Halo has never been bad, but it's also never done anything no FPS before it has done. So it's solid, definitely, but not the be all end all FPS some of the fans proclaim it to be.
 

EonEire

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I don't really have an issue with Halo, I have an issue with its community. Its aggressively racist, homophobic, immature community. Obviously not all of them, but enough to ruin my enjoyment of the product.
 

Jadthegreat

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Pedro The Hutt said:
plexxiss said:
kman123 said:
Eh, it started a trend I guess. It never really 'evolved', much unlike the namesake.
In fairness it evolved more than the FPSs it competes with.
And this is the part where you explain how Halo has evolved where its direct competitors haven't. ;D

In my experience Halo has never been bad, but it's also never done anything no FPS before it has done. So it's solid, definitely, but not the be all end all FPS some of the fans proclaim it to be.
Well Each game has changed several aspects halo 2 adding the arbiter story new weapons new enemies and new vehicles. Halo 3 fell into a run but still added new weapons and tools to use like the theatre and forge COD then tried to catch up by adding theatre and Wager matches (love wager matches) But the theatre mode is still lacking. Reach adds new weapons, removes old ones that were pointless changes up the story re-introduces the health so its not JUST regenerating shields like COD is now and added the equipment so now you can sprint or fly or do whatever. It also added Forge 2.0 and Forge world allowing for massive customisation on a console that gets supported by the developers who will add the most popular to matchmaking and isn't overly complicated for most people to make something that at least they will enjoy. So how has COD evolved from a gameplay point? (Will stress again i love cod probably play it more that halo but for other reasons)
 

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In honesty I think the only one I really enjoyed playing, rather than just finding it a chore, was Reach. I couldn't give two shits about the story or anything to do with it, but I have to admit that the armour abilities are fun.
 

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IMO, Halo went like this:

Halo: CE
Fan-fucking-tastic game. None of the others rival it in my opinion. It had an excellent story, if somewhat inspired by Aliens in places. The weapons, while not particularly varied compared to later games, all felt meaty and nicely powered. The controls were simple and easy to learn, while the solidity (that a real word? I dunno) of the gameplay meant that everything you did had an impact to it. The higher difficulty levels changed the gameplay as well, from less run and gun, to more tactical shooter. Pop up, scare the shit out of the enemy, run like hell and hide somewhere, rinse and repeat. The flood had suitable weight and threat to them as well. They weren't twitchy, crumbly, burst apart soon as look at you pieces of shit, they actually took some putting down and were incredibly dangerous, particularly in large numbers. The end of the game left me feeling like a god afterward and wanting more.


Halo 2
22 seconds in on this video says it best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMK6lzmSk2o

What utter, utter pants. Did not like this game very much at all. Horribly glitchy engine. Bad pathfinding to the point of almost totally busted in places (Sergeant Apo...Johnson going mental in the armoury at beginning springs to mind) and a renderer that asked way too much of the Xbox, causing Unreal Engine like graphics pop-in, are the two main things that immediately stand out. Horrible plastic-y look to everything. The story, while a bit deeper due to following not just the Chief, but the Arbiter as well, was just way too damned short. The removal of an overall health system and replacing it with a shitty, underlying regenerating health system was bad, bad, bad and oh yeah, guess what? BAD. Controls felt a bit wierd, particularly in the Warthog. They'd taken my favourite vehicle and totally ruined the way it handled, making it highly strung and bouncy, rather than low, swooping and cool to drive. No Assault rifle was pants, though they sort of made up for it with the Battle rifle, but not by much. Dual wielding was not as cool as it sounded, besides the fact that everyone seemed to forget that other games had already done it. The Flood, oh god the Flood! Bungie! WHAT DID YOU DO?! They no longer have the threat they had in 2 and no longer look or sound like they did in the first. They pose little to no danger at all in this one. I only came away from this game with a feeling of: "Was that it?"


Halo 3
Better than 2. Still nowhere near as good as the first game and still decidedly in the "meh" category. The story was pretty bland and still way too short, there were no Arbiter only missions like in 2 and they'd removed his cloak in co-op, dual wielding had been messed with, Assault rifle was back but nerfed to all hell, horrible plasticine look to everything, nothing had the same impact as the first game, Cortana had been changed from a strong, leading female role, to a vulnerable whiny, role. That said, 3 has its good points. Destroying Scarabs was a welcome surprise and a nice addition to the game, plus the pickups added some players to gameplay, though admittedly not much. Overall, the game was actually pretty good looking and a lot of the effects did some cool things to the game. Enemy character design looked fairly good too, apart from the Flood, which looked pretty much the same as 2. i.e. Crap, although the new species add some variety to the mix. Came away somewhat satisfied, but wanting more out of the game.


Halo 3: ODST
I said that none of the others rival the first game, but dammit this one comes close. Such an injection of something a bit different goes a long way in any franchise and this is no different. I loved this game, from the way it looked, the way it played, the way it sounded, the way the story was told, even if it was short, but in this case that is no bad thing...I'm not sure I can find fault with it really. It was so fresh and different to the rest of Halo and told me exactly what I wanted to know: What happened on Earth after the Chief left.


Halo: Reach
This too is a fairly ok game. It looks nice, it plays well, it sounds great. The armour abilites are pretty cool and certainly make the gameplay interesting. It's slightly longer (maybe) than 2 and 3 and it brings back the overall health system, although it does have limited regeneration still attached to it. Space section was cool and again, something a bit different. Lack of dual wielding was disappointing, but nice to see they de-nerfed the pistol for this outing. It's nice back story to what happened at Reach, though I feel that they could have made more of the Chief than just an easter egg appearance. Certainly though, this is not the big bang that the series should have ended on, it just didn't have that feel.

I'm leaving out Halo: Wars, because although I feel it's a brilliant game and solves a number of issues that console RTS's suffer with, I don't know how canon it is.
 

Netrigan

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Fieldy409 said:
what about the regenerating health. In halo ce that changed so much by making you play in a more realistic manner, using cover all the time.
Offset by all the charging to use your weapon as a blunt instrument. Melée can be fun but too much of it kills immersion for me. In Halo it seems to be the most viable strategy.

I like recharging health if it makes me feel godlike (Prototype, Saints Row) or vulnerable (Call Of Duty, Crysis). Halo is in that middle area that I don't like. Enemies are either no challenge or insta-kills. It vaciates between being insanely easy and insanely hard... the cheap kind of hard.
 

utopaline

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My Opinion... I love Halo, all games, BUT. I think what happened is the game gottoo big too fast. Bungie didn't know what to do with themselves, so each sequel was trying to out do the one before, instead of just making a great series. CE focused on the story and gameplay with less work put into multiplayer (I miss LAN parties)The success of Halo 2 Multiplayer opened up a can of flood worms that I think is what brought the games down. The main focus of great gameplay, compelling storylines, and all around fun was shifted to multiplayer and less energy put on the actual game. Don't get me wrong, I love playing on XBL, but sometimes you just want to sit on the couch and be wowed, and playing alone in your livingroom, doesn't wow me like Halo CE did. The moods in CE were awesome, I remember actually being startled by parts of the game because you couldn't see what was in the dark, and it was all new to us.

Sorry to ramble, but I also think that last statement is why a lot of people dislike the sequels, CE was so new, and so different for a FPS that the rest of the family could not compare to the awe that CE gave us. It's like movie sequels, if the first movie was very different, and blew us away, it's hard for the ones after to do the same (Star Wars, Godfather, Aliens and Dark Knight are exceptions). It's hard to live up to that kind of WOW factor that a first makes.

That's my 2 cents.

uto
 

UnderCoverGuest

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I enjoyed Halo: Combat Evolved (for PC). It brought groovy graphics to the first-person shooter genre (I played GoldenEye 64, then Perfect Dark, then Halo, so it was an update to me), smart AI, and took the concept of 'marines versus aliens' and made a shining example of it. Then there was the flood. Suddenly it went from fighting aliens to fighting the undead, and the game took on a horror-story that was quite thrilling in a creepy sort of way. I remember sneaking through the halls of the Library, making sure to melee each fallen body a dozen times after shooting it to the ground, just to be safe.

Anywho, it was a good story, with terrific music, classic weapons (futuristic human weapons, alien looking alien weapons), great multiplayer (PC, mind you, during that cheerful and care-free Quake multiplayer era when everyone was nice to one another and there on the server just to have fun). And it had co-op (at least for the xbox version). It was a great package. I feel it only started its downfall when it became a franchise, and turned into every kiddies' fantasy game. so for the most part, I enj--! Is that a new Duke Nukem Forever trailer down there in latest content! Whoop whoop whoop!
 

Lance Arrow

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It's vastly overrated if anything, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's a bad game.

Then again, look around you. Most people on this site love to hate popular things.
 

Arkvoodle

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My biggest problem with Halo has usually been the people who insist there is no other game worth playing BESIDES Halo.


So once again, humans ruin everything.
 

jpoon

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The first Halo was excellent way back then, after that it went downhill.