Poll: What's your IQ
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I got 152 on it. Last time I had a proper IQ test done by a psychologist, I got 151. Either this is some weird coincidence, or this test is pretty accurate.
Of course, IQ only tells us how easy it is to learn and compute things without studying so hard, and that's disregarding other factors, such as laziness and mental blocks... So IQ isn't meaningless, but definitely not very important. It's as meaningful as any other rule of thumb. (Half of my friends are in fact less intelligent than me, but are way smarter than me. Just goes to show hard work > intelligence)
Of course, IQ only tells us how easy it is to learn and compute things without studying so hard, and that's disregarding other factors, such as laziness and mental blocks... So IQ isn't meaningless, but definitely not very important. It's as meaningful as any other rule of thumb. (Half of my friends are in fact less intelligent than me, but are way smarter than me. Just goes to show hard work > intelligence)
Mensa IQ Test [http://www.free-iqtest.net]
Which is bullshit, because I wasn't even trying. Anyway, this IQ test sucks because it relies on cultural baggage in some questions and has too few questions to make an accurate assessment. IQ is by definition a quotient based on a standardised test. Representing IQ as an absolute score provides absolutely NO information of your performance relative to others.
TLDR: ITT everyone's a genius.
Edit: holy shit they actually claim this is a Mensa IQ test. I've taken that, and this is definitely NOT it. Please don't fall for this anyone. :S
Edit2:
You're not giving intelligence test methodology enough credit. When I see OP's 'iq test' I can't say I blame you. Just so you know: this is not, I repeat NOT a standardised IQ test. Instead it measures a percentage of questions answered correctly, then tack on a bullshit numerical value, then they call that 'IQ'. Actual intelligence testing is done way more rigorously and carefully.Sneaklemming said:
That is also causation.Well, hypothesizing about a causation at the very least.Maze1125 said:
Correlation is simply stating "x has this in common with y" without drawing any more conclusions, so in this case, a correlation would be "93% of the escapist scored higher then average on the IQ test and are gamers". You do not imply anything more then that.
If you start wondering that x means y, then it becomes a hypothesis about causation.
Not necessarily, the word "means" has more than one definition.Frankster said:
If x correlates 95% with y and y correlates 95% with z then that means x correlates highly with z.
Not I used the word "means" but I was making a mathematical statement of implication, not a physical statement of causation.
This is what williebaz did.
He wondered if the Escapist correlating with gamers and the Escapist correlating with high scores on this IQ test meant that gamers correlated with high IQ scores. Now I would say that, no, there wasn't enough information to say that.
But, nevertheless, he was using deduction to make a hypothesis about correlation. Causation was nowhere involved.
"If x correlates 95% with y and y correlates 95% with z then that means x correlates highly with z."Maze1125 said:
That is causation, correlation just means there is a relationship between two things. That's it, you DONT make assumptions or guess about the nature of the relationship, if you do, then you make a hypothesis about causation. It seems to me you are talking about a mathematical correlation, which although it's the same word, doesn't mean the same thing in mathematics and social sciences.
"But, nevertheless, he was using deduction to make a hypothesis about correlation. Causation was nowhere involved."
That is causation again, that thing you are calling a "hypothesis" using deduction. That is a hypothesis about causation.
Here let me give you an example. 93% of the escapist have scored over the average IQ test and 90% of the escapist are males , I wonder if being male means you score better at IQ tests?
93% of the escapist have scored over the average IQ test and 90% of the escapist spend more time on the computer then the average person. I wonder if this means spending time on the computer means you score better on the IQ test?
"Now I would say that, no, there wasn't enough information to say that." That remark would be a critique of his hypothesis if the guy actually tried to prove it.
Am I correct to say you major in something involving mathematics or a very exact science?
That we can even talk about this shows you know the concept of correlation and causation, but your definition of it differs from mine and I know more exact sciences use terms differently.
h1: Either 1 of us is wrong, or we are both right.
h0:We are both wrong
That is not analogous to his statement.
"Here let me give you an example. 93% of the escapist have scored over the average IQ test and 90% of the escapist are males , I wonder if that means males score better at IQ tests?"
Would be the correct analogy. The difference in the wording is subtle, but key.
Your one is a statement wondering about causation, this one is a statement that merely wonders about the correlation between being male and IQ tests.
I doubt your way of using the words is different enough change the point, but I would like to hear your definition of them anyway.
Simple:
Correlation is stating a relationship between any two things without implying anything.
ex: There is a positive correlation between deaths by drowning and icecream.
Causation is saying that something is affected by another thing.
ex
eath by drowning is due to sales of icecream.
You are right about the wording though, so allow me to rephrase it as I understood it:
"Being a gamer means you will do better at IQ tests".
But I think I stand on my judgement emitted earlier, you are not social sciences person, I think I will just ask my tutor next time I see him.
Correlation is stating a relationship between any two things without implying anything.
ex: There is a positive correlation between deaths by drowning and icecream.
Causation is saying that something is affected by another thing.
ex
eath by drowning is due to sales of icecream.You are right about the wording though, so allow me to rephrase it as I understood it:
"Being a gamer means you will do better at IQ tests".
But I think I stand on my judgement emitted earlier, you are not social sciences person, I think I will just ask my tutor next time I see him.
