Poll: Who Do You Think is Best RPGs Between Bioware, Square Enix, and Bethesda?
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I'm giving it to Bioware- Square Enix just makes me shake my head with every Final Fantasy game they make after FF6, my personal favorite- or more appropriately, every one after FF1, because it just hsould've been the final one... but they had to go and live...
Anyways as much as I loved Oblivion, I liked DA:O more... and I just plain sucked at Fallout 3 until I got the DLC that gave me the stupidly overpowered Gauss Rifle, then it was a cakewalk.
Anyways as much as I loved Oblivion, I liked DA:O more... and I just plain sucked at Fallout 3 until I got the DLC that gave me the stupidly overpowered Gauss Rifle, then it was a cakewalk.
What? Is that just more bashing on DA2? Get your head checked,bakan said:
ME3 will be out in March.Bioware is my gaming bread and butter so I chose them. Bethesda wins awesome points for Fallout 3 but I just could not get into either Oblivion or Morrowind. Everyone says you have more choice but leaving Fallout 3 and from what I gathered of TES's when you finish up it doesn't feel like you've made an impact on the world. I guess I just like them epic with more direction.
I really like Square Enix, I really became a gamer with FFX, love IX, Chrono Trigger and the Kingdom Hearts games. It just seems like a lot of work sorting the game chaff from wheat with them. Too much focus on too many different things it seems. I also just want them to make Kingdom Hearts 3 already! Not like I understood what the hell was happening by the end of 2 though.
Bioware games have very little character customization so they are barely RPGs. Can't be tough to beat that.
Bethesda shades it over Bioware by an inch for me I'm affraid, I love all of Bioware's efforts that I have ever played but I loved them for a couple of playthroughs and not much longer. I'm pretty sure that I have on file on Oblivion that has more hours clocked than all of my playthroughs for Mass Effect 1 and 2.
The worlds that Bethesda create are some of the best I have come across in any medium, the Capital Wasteland being the all time best for my personal tastes.
The worlds that Bethesda create are some of the best I have come across in any medium, the Capital Wasteland being the all time best for my personal tastes.
I never said Bethseda gets to claim New Vegas :\DracoSuave said:So... Bethesda gets to claim FO:NV but Square-Enix doesn't get to claim Deus Ex 3?!dyre said:Bioware. Square's a joke, and Bethseda games are meh without the mods. I don't think technology has caught up to their ambition yet. Also, they have mediocre storylines.
Deus Ex 3 is being done by Eidos Montreal...Square just pays for itDracoSuave said:
Agreed about Obsidian
I call shinanegans.
They get some credit for the engine, but it's Obsidian's game (and an inferior game to Bethseda's FO3, I might add)
And what does ME3 change?pixiejedi said:What? Is that just more bashing on DA2? Get your head checked,bakan said:
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Mass Effect 2 was already stripped to the bare minimum and more or less a shooter with RPG elements.
I never mentioned DA2, though it was bad and it seemed like a Mass Effect in the middle ages with even less content.
So for me it still holds true, that they more or less stopped making RPGs contrary to the other two developers - though I am not so excited about Skyrim with the latest news and FF XIII was an interactive movie until you came to the open world part - but imho a JRPG developer shouldn't be in the poll with 2 western studios.
edit: captcha "describe this brand with any word(s)" - hey now you can choose what you want to enter, I just chose [insert random swearword]
Square Enix has made a lot of my favorite games over the years, so AFAIC, they are the best RPG company out there. Sure they are not the most innovative, but most of their games bring back fond memories of childhood, playing all of the games on the SNES.
Bethesda comes a distant second. I do not like a lot of their medieval fantasy games, but I like their iteration of Fallout.
I cannot stand Bioware games with a passion. To me the games are the same. Same storyline, same cookie cutter blank character, and same lack of urgency in the plot. All of them involve you as a person with a mysterious past, who is either destined to save the world or conquer it. The fact that you have to create a personality means that the writers were too lazy to finish their work and expect you to do it for them. Finally, there is no sense of urgency in the plot. The evil monster will wait to destroy the world until you are done dicking around in your harvest moon simulator. That aggravates me to no end.
Bethesda comes a distant second. I do not like a lot of their medieval fantasy games, but I like their iteration of Fallout.
I cannot stand Bioware games with a passion. To me the games are the same. Same storyline, same cookie cutter blank character, and same lack of urgency in the plot. All of them involve you as a person with a mysterious past, who is either destined to save the world or conquer it. The fact that you have to create a personality means that the writers were too lazy to finish their work and expect you to do it for them. Finally, there is no sense of urgency in the plot. The evil monster will wait to destroy the world until you are done dicking around in your harvest moon simulator. That aggravates me to no end.
I think I can safely rule out Square Enix. I like kingdom hearts but I dislike all Final Fantasies exept one and seven (one was good and saved the studio and seven was just great) plus they are JRPGs, which a completly different catagory.
Bethesda has the (in my opinion) most fun game series, the Elder Scrolls, and arguably the best fallout game besides fallout two's retarded version (just. too. fun.) but I feel like their NPC interactions and stories are lacking, which I think is important to an RPG.
Bioware however has great story and character interaction, plus they always have better an more fast paced combat than the other two companies, in my opinion at least. So yeah my vote is bioware.
If we were just choosing which company out of all make the best RPGs then CDprojekt because of the Withcher 2.
Bethesda has the (in my opinion) most fun game series, the Elder Scrolls, and arguably the best fallout game besides fallout two's retarded version (just. too. fun.) but I feel like their NPC interactions and stories are lacking, which I think is important to an RPG.
Bioware however has great story and character interaction, plus they always have better an more fast paced combat than the other two companies, in my opinion at least. So yeah my vote is bioware.
If we were just choosing which company out of all make the best RPGs then CDprojekt because of the Withcher 2.
malestrithe said:
Isn't that one of the main aspects of RPGs? being able to create your own character with their own history, storyline and personality?
The exact same thing can be said for Bethesda game.
If you had asked me who makes the best RPG about five years ago, this might have been a tough choice.
But since Bioware has made both Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 2 since then. . .
The only option is Bethesda. A million times Bethesda.
Oblivion is the best RPG I've played, with KOTOR being a close, close second. Sadly, while Mass Effect 1 was good, and Dragon Age Origins was decent, the watered down, and linear progressions of both Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2 decimate any high opinion KOTOR might have brought Bioware.
Alternatively, Fallout 3 was decent, nothing stupendous, but decent. So Bethesda maintains their good standing, at least until Skyrim comes out, and we all find out just what "streamlining" means. Then, who knows where Bethesda will stand.
But since Bioware has made both Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 2 since then. . .
The only option is Bethesda. A million times Bethesda.
Oblivion is the best RPG I've played, with KOTOR being a close, close second. Sadly, while Mass Effect 1 was good, and Dragon Age Origins was decent, the watered down, and linear progressions of both Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2 decimate any high opinion KOTOR might have brought Bioware.
Alternatively, Fallout 3 was decent, nothing stupendous, but decent. So Bethesda maintains their good standing, at least until Skyrim comes out, and we all find out just what "streamlining" means. Then, who knows where Bethesda will stand.
By sheer amount of titles I've enjoyed, I'd go Square Enix. However for more recent releases I'd probably go Bethesda.
I'd say it depends on what you want.
If you want a pretty cool story, good characters, and solid gameplay, go with bioware.
If you want sprawling worlds and dungeons and swordplay, albeit with some bugs and polish issues, go with bethesda.
If you want JRPGs, go with Square Enix.
If you want a pretty cool story, good characters, and solid gameplay, go with bioware.
If you want sprawling worlds and dungeons and swordplay, albeit with some bugs and polish issues, go with bethesda.
If you want JRPGs, go with Square Enix.
I would vote for Bioware, but they stopped making RPG's and started making action games with with a talent tree and calling it an RPG.
Bethesda games suck for me due to all the bugs, so I'm gonna have to say Square.
Bethesda games suck for me due to all the bugs, so I'm gonna have to say Square.
I value gameplay over story so Bethesda, since their gameplay is the best and still manages a good story.
HusaneFatal said:
You have made a serious mistake by making this a thread.
Bethesda (Fallout 3, Elder Scrolls) specialises in open world games where travel is important and often more fun than the actual story with deep and intriguing side plots and quests. Faster game play that is more action based. Also the hero or heroine is rarely explored except in the case of Fallout 3.
Square Enix makes JRPGs, often turn based or time based which involves only the main story that is done deeply. A slower type of game play. They also focus deeply on the main character with a range of cut scenes, more like watching a movie with game parts in-between.
Bioware is mostly action (Mass Effect, Bioshock) with less linearity than Square Enix but not as much as Bethesda. The character is the main focus but the story around the character is normally the most intriguing.
All depends on what you want in an RPG. All 3 make great RPGs with their own merits but I don't go to Bethesda for gorgeous cut scenes and I don't go to Square Enix for fast paced slashers or shooters.
My favourite, Fallout 3 then Bioshock, Morrowind and Oblivion, Mass Effect (1,2) and lastly Final Fantasy 10.