Poll: Who Do You Think is Best RPGs Between Bioware, Square Enix, and Bethesda?

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thenamelessloser

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Squareenix if Deus Ex Human Revolution is as good as the first two Deus Ex games... That, and some earlier games such as Nier and Chrono Trigger....

If Deus Ex Human is not as good as the earlier Deus Ex games then I would say out of those three companies Bioware.

If I can choose any RPG developer probably Black Isle, Troika, or Obsidian.
 

Wuggy

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modman8 said:
...Skyrim....
imahobbit4062 said:
I'll love Skyrim.
spartan231490 said:
Chase Yojimbo said:
but Skyrim takes the gold this year
Skyrim isn't out yet, it could be utter shit for all we know. You're basing your judgement on assumption and hype.

In my mind Bioware wins. For me personally, good characters, immersion and story are the most important things in a RPG. Bioware delivers all of those things satisfyingly.

Bethesda has done impressive things but I can't get immersed in their games for they are too unpolished and go to the "uncanny valley" territory. Also their stories aren't very good.

Square... well, JRPGs just aren't my thing.
 

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Having played only ME2 and Fallout 3, I am pretty torn between the 2. It is a close call, but Bioware comes on top cause of a slightly better storytelling device. Oh and they have Legion as well.
 

SammiYin

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Bethesda, I'd rather have freedom and do things at my own pace than put up with a bloated narrative and irritating characters.
 

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The Kingdom Hearts series is more than enough for Square Enix to get my vote.

I haven't played any Bioware games. But they haven't really sparked my interest anyway.

And, for me at least, Bethesda games have the tendency to be significantly less enjoyable after completing the first playthrough.
 

aldowyn

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Squeenix... I have no respect for Final Fantasy anymore.

Between Bioware and Bethesda... Well, if Skyrim blows me out of the water, Bethesda (Bioware could easily take the crown back if they follow through properly with Mass Effect 3, though), but, for the most part, Bioware. I'm just in love with the Mass Effect setting, and their past achievements far outstrip the earlier Elder Scrolls games.

Overall, a good RPG is a game that allows your to actually role-play. Bethesda and Bioware both let you do that, but Bioware undeniably does it better, and has for a long time.
 

Jake the Snake

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As much as I love the intricate narratives of Bioware's games...after I beat them, I don't go back to them. There is only one RPG series that has captivated literally hundreds of hours of my life, and that is the Elder Scrolls. In that respect, I must say Bethesda.
 

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Only two games ever came out of Bethesda that I liked and those were Fallout 3, and Brink.

I don't like ANY of Bioware's games.

I LOVE Final Fantasy I-VI, VIII-X-2, and XII and XIII, The World Ends with you, Kingdom Hearts....the list goes on.

Square Enix for the Win!!!
 

Xaio30

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You're comparing apples, pears and mangoes here.

You can enjoy different types of RPGs for different reasons.

The Last Remnant had an extensive battle system.
Oblivion had a beautiful, open world.
Baldurs Gate 2 had an incredible narrative.
 

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Bethesda, without a doubt. The Elder Scrolls series is the greatest RPG series around right now. They have amazing depth and lore, compelling characters and settings and always bring together an amazing gameplay experience which is bursting at the seams with content.

Bioware on the other hand are a bit hit-and-miss. Although I haven't played a ton of their games the one they are most known for right now I really dislike. I had the first Mass Effect and hated it. The controls felt sluggish, A.I. was annoying and stupid, characters looked boring and their personalities were dry and dull, their outfits looked stupid and the graphics looked very artificial. But the first game I had that introduced me to Bioware was Jade Empire. That game was great. It had a wonderful rich colourful setting which was full of character and mystery, and the characters and story were interesting and moving. But yeah overall I don't think Bioware deserves the hype surrounding it from Mass Effect.

Square Enix are just stuck in the past. I want to like them, and sometimes they do bring out a game that is actually interesting (like Infinite Undiscovery and The Last Story if it ever makes it out of Japan) but the FF series and others like it are based on totally outdated game design and aren't relevant anymore. Square Enix seem to just want to bring back the success of FF7 among others by attempting to make the same game over and over again. People ask for evolution from their games so every now and again they try to add in half-baked gimmicks to try and show that they can still "innovate" but all they want to do is make the same linear game with dull "combat" with cliche story and characters. I like the idea of JRPGs having epic stirring stories and rich fantastical settings but so many of them are just cookie-cutter now that you just ignore it. That leaves the ancient bare for all to see.
 

loc978

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I would have chosen Squaresoft or Enix for the sheer number of games I've enjoyed by both of 'em... but Squeenix is a whole different animal.

Lately it's been a tossup for me. Fallout or Mass Effect would be the clincher... but the better new Fallout game was made by someone not on the list, and Mass Effect hit a serious downturn with the second installment... but I think I'll vote BioWare, on the strength of their old D&D games... and Knights of the Old Republic.
 

Kimarous

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For me, it's a tie between Bioware and Bethesda. Squeenix isn't even up for debate; if I don't give enough of a shit to even attempt to finish your RPGs, you're doing it wrong. Bioware and Bethesda have pros in their own ways and I don't think they are comparable as a result. Bioware has the stories that grip me all the way through and I want to see what happens next, while Bethesda has the games where an ending feels like a quaint notion and (at least to me) it's more "have fun faffing about" than "what will happen next in the story". Not to say Bethesda doesn't have their good stories, but it feels more about the player's story than the setting's story.
 

Naeo

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Bethesda. I say this with the acknowledgment that I have never played a Square Enix RPG.

I prefer Bethesda to Bioware mostly because of how combat is done. All real-time (minus pausing to switch weapons) versus real-time turn based (KOTOR). Mass Effect didn't really have that model of combat, yeah, and it's not under consideration for that point. But, mostly, I pick Bethesda because they made Morrowind, which had some of the best immersion and atmosphere I have ever seen in a game. It truly felt otherworldly, where Oblivion--which did have a lot of polishing done to it--felt more like slices of the real world, just tweaked a bit. Morrowind was completely alien/foreign-feeling for the most part. And that's what I fucking loved about it.

Bethesda's RPGs are also a lot more open-ended and provide a lot more freedom/choice in many regards than did KOTOR(II)/Mass Effect, the three Bioware games I played most thoroughly. Never played Dragon Age, so can't talk on that one. In Oblivion, I felt like I had a lot more freedom in how to approach, say, a combat situation. I could charge in there, swords swinging (almost typed "guns blazing"), spells flying, decked out in armor and generally raising all sorts of hell until a layer of bodies coated everything. Or, I could sneak in and assassinate everyone. Or I could summon a minion to do it for me. Or I could waltz in, use my devious charms on everyone, and not have to do any combat. Or better yet, I could pit everyone against each other. I could really approach those situations however I wanted. Granted, a lot of the quests were pretty linear without a lot of choice/branching storylines, but that's true of almost every game nowadays. In KOTOR, I basically had the choice of going in guns blazing or lightsaber swinging while flinging the force in everyone's faces. In Mass Effect, I could go into the same "dungeon" (I rarely notice that sort of thing, but Mass Effect didn't seem to have a lot of variety in places you could go kill things, with a few exceptions for story-important locations) and either shoot everything or magic it all to death. It was still great fun, but less fun in a lot of ways than the crazy shit I could do in Oblivion. Like running in naked and casting "frenzy" on everyone, then invisibility on myself before sitting back and watching all hell break loose in a cave or fort or whatever.
 

Swny Nerdgasm

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I have yet to find a bioware game I haven't enjoyed immensely, I detest JRPG's and all the elder scrolls games have put me to sleep, so I guess i'm going with bioware
 

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Obsidian and CD Projekt Red wrestle naked in mud for my RPGing affections.

Bethesda does cool stuff but... eh... it's mostly shallow.

Bioware... well, their last two offerings have left me underwhelmed. AND WHERE'S MY GODDAMNED JADE EMPIRE SEQUEL?

SquareEnix? Pfffft. I only pay attention to their publishing activities.
 

minimacker

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Why are you making me choose between Bethesda and Bioware.

Before I make my answer, I'll have to amputate my head.
 

Kakashi on crack

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All three of them are slowly becoming shit lately, but in terms of favorite games, I'd go with Bioware for creating NWN, KoTOR, and Mass Effect
 

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Midnight Crossroads said:
That depends if Square Enix also includes its library from Square and Enix because Chrono Trigger, Chrono Cross, Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Vagrant Story, Brave Fencer Musashi, and Parasite Eve say I should pick Square Enix.

If I can only include those released after the merger, then Bethesda. They make nice, open worlds.
This.

Actually on second thought I'd probably pick Square Enix regardless. Haters gonna hate, but I love those games.