Poll: Why does everyone hate ME3 so badly?

[guitarsniper]

Me3 is a great game but like with DA2 as Bioware fans we expect more than great we expect the best like Mass Effect 2.

Idk to me the game seems rushed, shorter than both other Mass Effect games, less character development, and a retarded ending.

I liked Dragon Age 2's ending better than this crap.

I just feel like with Me3 and Dragon Age 2 going how they went we are seeing the slow decay of Bioware from its relationship with EA.

Ive been playing Bioware games since BG2 came out, and I can safely say Bioware's writing level hasn't changed at all.

The thing that has changed however are the people, and the way they have changed is that they now have nostalgia.

This nostalgia makes people believe that older games are SOO much better form the new ones even if they aren't.

And every year the nostalgia gets worse and worse, and reinforced by constant self-assurance from the person suffering from it.

This actually makes a lot of sense. I think that the Mass Effect series is actually far better in terms of writing and believable characters than, for example, Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark (the best NWN1 game, in my opinion).

 

[boag]

Provide examples of each of your statements if you want to be taken seriously.

Seeing as most others have provided sufficient ones, I don't see why I have to reiterate their comments.

because blanket statements hold very little merit, and can be disregard by other blanket statements like "well all your points have been disproved in another post"

The game is all over the place.

The Rachni retconned
i agree, bringing them back if you choose to kill them was a bad move

The Love Interests what about the love interests? please specify
The three endings (regardless of what you've done)This is my principle concern and the one I have been most vocal about, I will infer you mean how the relays get fucked over no matter what.
The companions bug please explain further
The missing Shadow Broker mission acknowledgementsGlyph was there, and Feron gives little tidbits about what happens, during the mission to get the Krogan Females a Yawg escapes and Sheppard comments "There goes the next shadow broker" to which Liara replies "not funny", how is the acknowledgement missing?
The reaper base choice is meaningless I concurr

Everything that was an important choice in the previous two games is either retconned or devalued into meaningless tripe that is referenced in a passing statement or forced into a conclusion that removes each and every reason to actually play a game series built on choice mattering at all.

We seem to agree in more points than we differ, i would ask you to not make more blanker or vague points, because it will only make your very valid points seem worthless and dismissive.

 

[renegade7]

The complains are mostly directed at EA and their DRM and Launch day DLC and various other money grubbing policies. The rest is just butthurt hipsters who automatically write off good games like Mass Effect for being 'mainstream' rather than 'hardcore'.

I do have one complaint though. I have only played the Demo but to me the style was very much like ME2. And though ME2 was definitely good, I preferred ME1's more RPG heavy gameplay.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Realistic criticism is met with cries of "INTERNET HATE"

Saying it might not be as good as the others - "INTERNET HATE"

Getting 4.5 out of 5 - "INTERNET HATE"

Not being Game of the Year - "INTERNET HATE"

And then just being another AAA title held up for the brave decision making of not having any brave decisions to make - while being farmed out to all the people who were going to buy it anyway - and a group of people who are fans of their own Shepard without wanting to acknowledge anyone else's - despite having as much choice as The Warlock of Firetop Mountain.

So yeah, same day, another hyper-defended bland AAA title with pay to play add-ons - slapdashed with bugs, redefines and "THE PROPER WAY" to play.

And because some people, rightly, enjoyed it - ALL CRITICISM IS HATE!!!!!111!

That's why I avoid AAA titles now - because we're going to have at least another 7 of these threads before the month is out. And the same people will bring the same points to the same flamewar every time.

 

[lacktheknack]

From what I can tell,
A. people have drawn a line a line in regards to DLC,
B. Origin,
C. the endings are really black,
D. it became trendy to despise Bioware after DA2.

 

[CarlMin]

What's ME3?

 

[suitepee7]

they don't? there is general internet rage, and DLC rage, which i think is just people complaining.

then there's the endings, haven't got there myself so i'll judge that when i get to it

 

[Section Crow]

by itself, mass effect 3 is a good game

compared to biowares previous work, it's a bad game.

 

[J Tyran]

Tali's face

Whatever else was going to happen in the release of ME3 the TDF (Tali defence force) where going to rage, at least this way its a genuine reason to grumble. Or maybe an elaborate troll from Bioware, "lets annoy the TDF by using that picture".

 

[SajuukKhar]

Tali's face

Whatever else was going to happen in the release of ME3 the TDF (Tali defence force) where going to rage, at least this way its a genuine reason to grumble. Or maybe an elaborate troll from Bioware, "lets annoy the TDF by using that picture".

After how BSN and Reddit treated that Bioware employee, I can safely say any troll by bioware was justified.

 

[Crazy Zaul]

They don't hate it they just rage at bioware cos that's whats hip right now.
Bioware is the new Coldplay.

Spoiler: Lol look at this metacritic review in Chinenglish.

(10) Game is AMAZING! Many emotions, many drive. Find story like in Mass Effec!. Find so fantastic emotions! Find so amazing EPIC You can't find it in Skyrim or Amalur. Free world is not better than GREAT story! So many agressive! Why? Gamers, WAKE UP! Stop it. This game survive is better than 5! It is a LEGEND

 

[SajuukKhar]

They don't hate it they just rage at bioware cos that's whats hip right now.
Bioware is the new Coldplay.

Spoiler: Lol look at this metacritic review in Chinenglish.

(10) Game is AMAZING! Many emotions, many drive. Find story like in Mass Effec!. Find so fantastic emotions! Find so amazing EPIC You can't find it in Skyrim or Amalur. Free world is not better than GREAT story! So many agressive! Why? Gamers, WAKE UP! Stop it. This game survive is better than 5! It is a LEGEND

BSN would rage if bioware made a game that craped gold bricks for some stupid reason such as the gold bricks aren't shiny enough.

 

[Bat Vader]

I finished the game last night and I will admit I was less than joyful at the ending I picked. I didn't hate the ending either. There was an article about a few weeks back telling us to keep our save games. That could mean they are adding post-ending DLC or they could also be adding different endings as well.

I really love the game. The endings made it sink a bit but I don't hate the game.

 

[SajuukKhar]

I finished the game last night and I will admit I was less than joyful at the ending I picked. I didn't hate the ending either. There was an article about a few weeks back telling us to keep our save games. That could mean they are adding post-ending DLC or they could also be adding different endings as well.

Nope, they already said there would be no post ending DLC becuase

"all it would be is staring at a boring wasteland"

However, I wouldn't be surprised if Mass effect 4 pulls some save game data from Mass Effect 3.

 

[SajuukKhar]

You know what else gets worse and more reinforced every year?

Denial.

the denial of not being terribly blinded by nostalgia?

Yeah its terrible and only getting worse.

 

[der freizutchs]

Pretty much what the subject line states. To clarify, although there are problems and fan rage for things like the Tali's face = stock photograph incident that I completly agree with, for the most part I am really enjoying Mass Effect 3 and cannot wrap my head around all of the ungodly amounts or rage. Enlighten me

Edit: Sorry this is my first forum posting and apparently I did horribly with the poll

2: Fixed it

nobody hates everything calm down -_-

 

[Smurf McSmurfington]

The only thing I disliked about ME3 was the ending. It just didn't fit, no matter how you look at it.
I find it likely that said ending wasn't even Bioware's idea (or atleast they were opposed to this specific implementation).

Hmm... perhaps it's a similar case to S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl's, that most people will get the crappy dumb endings and only those who pay attention and do everything possible get the best one... however apparently one can't really get anywhere close to 5000 military point things at 50% efficiency (I could get it to 3489, I did prettymuch all the quests, save for one or two that bugged out, I did everything optimally, but I just didn't get anywhere close to 5000).

And I played it all in a single sitting (and yes, as I'm writing this, I've been awake for roughly 36-40 hours now, and I've spent almost all of it playing ME3 and drinking coffee).

So could someone please clarify - if you get 5k or 4k or w/e the real amount was points, do you get an ending different to the silly 3 choices one (where none of the choices make any real sense stylistically, nor when comparing a couple of things later said with the ingame universe).

I loved Mass Effect 3, I really did, it was truly brilliantly composed and executed right up until the final few minutes with the very silly ending(in fact I wish it would've ended where one originally would think it ends while viewing the final cutscenes - won't spoil anything specific, but those who've played it, know what I'm on about). Did they run out of time?

(sorry about the incoherence, by the way, but one would think that's somewhat forgiveable seeing as I've been awake for 36-40 hours at this point)

Truth be told, it wouldn't bug me if the entire series hadn't been as great, including ME3.
But I'm sorry, the ending just kind of made everything pointless in the entire ME universe.

Hmm... I have a solution - I will just make up a new ending for myself, in my head. Not that it'll cure the temporary blues I've gotten from this, but still...

 

[SajuukKhar]

The only thing I disliked about ME3 was the ending. It just didn't fit, no matter how you look at it.
I find it likely that said ending wasn't even Bioware's idea (or atleast they were opposed to this specific implementation).

Hmm... perhaps it's a similar case to S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl's, that most people will get the crappy dumb endings and only those who pay attention and do everything possible get the best one... however apparently one can't really get anywhere close to 5000 military point things at 50% efficiency (I could get it to 3489, I did prettymuch all the quests, save for one or two that bugged out, I did everything optimally, but I just didn't get anywhere close to 5000).

And I played it all in a single sitting (and yes, as I'm writing this, I've been awake for roughly 36-40 hours now, and I've spent almost all of it playing ME3 and drinking coffee).

So could someone please clarify - if you get 5k or 4k or w/e the real amount was points, do you get an ending different to the silly 3 choices one (where none of the choices make any real sense stylistically, nor when comparing statements with the ingame universe).

I loved Mass Effect 3, I really did, it was truly brilliantly composed and executed right up until the final few minutes with the very silly ending(in fact I wish it would've ended where one originally would think it ends while viewing the final cutscenes - won't spoil anything specific, but those who've played it, know what I'm on about). Did they run out of time?

(sorry about the incoherence, by the way, but one would think that's somewhat forgiveable seeing as I've been awake for 36-40 hours at this point)

You are aware that the ending goes exactly with the themes of the series?

The entire point of the game series was self sacrifice and self determination.

the Reapers built the mass relays and the citadel as a means to enslave the other races by imposing both technogicla and soceital limits on species so that they evlove down a path that The repaers picked for them.

Not destroying the mass relays only means continuing a needless cycle of technological enslavement and what would make it worse is that they are now willing slave to slave masters who are dead.

No ending that didn't involve the total destruction of the Citadel and mass relay network would make sense given the themes of the series.

 

[Terrik]

Just finished it. The endings left me with a stomach ache, I cant believe that after three so great games with a great story it ends like this, so.. weak. I'm very disappointed.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

I don't like the gameplay in any Mass Effect. Its just doesn't feel like they put half the effort into combat and things that they did into the story.