On a vid I watch my only complaint was the audio of voice acting was out of sync other than that i dont mind it
Poll: Why does everyone hate ME3 so badly?
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Well, DLC fixed Fallout 3, didn't it? Apparently Bioware are "listening closely" to the complains, which are massive - right now, there's a poll on the official forums. 80% of the votes saying "Endings suck", with almost 3k people voting for that option.dyre said:
See this is my point. Just hate spewing without actual backing up. You're the one lying here, buddy. There's more choice than ever and all of it matters to the galaxy. Lazy? Please. Everything you've done in the previous two games is referenced in some way. If you pay attention you can see the detail every conversation is crafted with.SpiderJerusalem said:
That you don't want to see that is your fault, not the game's.
When I post this, Derp is at 69... lol
Anyway, ME3 isn't hated by most, but many don't like the fact that it had day 1 DLC, that it has multiplayer and (In my opinion the most justified) people hate the endings (Seriously. They're crap).
But yeah, other than review bombing, most people like ME3, even a number on BSN [Though many will complain 'Worst thing ever' until they say 'I really would give it a 7 or 8, review bombing is just stupid']
Anyway, ME3 isn't hated by most, but many don't like the fact that it had day 1 DLC, that it has multiplayer and (In my opinion the most justified) people hate the endings (Seriously. They're crap).
But yeah, other than review bombing, most people like ME3, even a number on BSN [Though many will complain 'Worst thing ever' until they say 'I really would give it a 7 or 8, review bombing is just stupid']
I've been playing for a bit now and I was silly enough to read spoilers. So here's my impression so far:
The game is great, but it also has flaws. It is a great experience overall however.
1) It is not an RPG. A lot of people are complaining about this, but I personally think ME has NEVER been an RPG. Sure, it had some RPG elements (and still has them), but it was always something "unique" in terms of what elements the game brought to the table. I don't know what I would call it. I think I'll just call it Mass Effect.
2) Too much Autodialogue. While I think that they had good intentions when removing a bunch of redundant Dialogue choices from the flow, I believe they went a bit overboard. A couple more choices wouldn't have hurt. I get that you set the general "theme" of your responses and then watch it unfold, but a little more input from the player in this instance would have been good.
3) The Combat is improved. It just is. There's not a lot to discuss here. The only major flaw is the one-button-wonder thing. One more button couldn't have hurt too much. >.>
4) Jessica Chobot should never consider a career in Voice Acting. I don't mind that she's in there since her part is negligable. But oh my god her delivery is so bad it's amusing. Especially when you hear her "interacting" with Jennifer Hale. I have nothing against Miss CHobot, but don't consider getting into voice acting...at least not until you've had some serious training.
5) Choices and Consequences. From what I've played so far, Mass Effect has been "MY" experience. The choices I made have come back reflected in the game and it is a wonderfully fulfilling feeling when you notice these things, little or small.
As I said, I read the leaked endings. I have never had such a huge problem with them as they fit my own Shep pretty well. However, if someone were to make a poll about them, I would choose: "I like the endings, but I strongly urge BioWare to add some outcomes that are less "bad" for those who enjoy those kind of endings."
In a nutshell, I am greatly enjoying ME3 and so far, it's been very much what I had hoped for. I'd give it a 8 on an objective scale. A 9.5 on a personal fan-scale.
Cheers.
The game is great, but it also has flaws. It is a great experience overall however.
1) It is not an RPG. A lot of people are complaining about this, but I personally think ME has NEVER been an RPG. Sure, it had some RPG elements (and still has them), but it was always something "unique" in terms of what elements the game brought to the table. I don't know what I would call it. I think I'll just call it Mass Effect.
2) Too much Autodialogue. While I think that they had good intentions when removing a bunch of redundant Dialogue choices from the flow, I believe they went a bit overboard. A couple more choices wouldn't have hurt. I get that you set the general "theme" of your responses and then watch it unfold, but a little more input from the player in this instance would have been good.
3) The Combat is improved. It just is. There's not a lot to discuss here. The only major flaw is the one-button-wonder thing. One more button couldn't have hurt too much. >.>
4) Jessica Chobot should never consider a career in Voice Acting. I don't mind that she's in there since her part is negligable. But oh my god her delivery is so bad it's amusing. Especially when you hear her "interacting" with Jennifer Hale. I have nothing against Miss CHobot, but don't consider getting into voice acting...at least not until you've had some serious training.
5) Choices and Consequences. From what I've played so far, Mass Effect has been "MY" experience. The choices I made have come back reflected in the game and it is a wonderfully fulfilling feeling when you notice these things, little or small.
As I said, I read the leaked endings. I have never had such a huge problem with them as they fit my own Shep pretty well. However, if someone were to make a poll about them, I would choose: "I like the endings, but I strongly urge BioWare to add some outcomes that are less "bad" for those who enjoy those kind of endings."
In a nutshell, I am greatly enjoying ME3 and so far, it's been very much what I had hoped for. I'd give it a 8 on an objective scale. A 9.5 on a personal fan-scale.
Cheers.
Problems are easily out shined by the game as a whole. For me as of right now, it's easily the best game in the series. The writing is excellent, the story is superb, and the combat is actually decent(Fully upgraded Vanguard yo). I almost was brought to tears at a few points by the way they handled the story.
I chose Tali for the past few games, and the face didn't bother me at all. It was so poorly done, that I straight up didn't care. She still looks like the mysterious chick I pictured in my mind. If they had gone the full length and actually had pre-rendered mask taking offage, I would have been a little bummed.
Right about now, I've never cared more deeply for characters in a game. Sitting down with them during the R and R sections when you reach the Citadel was awesome. Hanging out with Garrus ended up really making me care for him. And for the first time, I actually sort of regret choosing Tali over Liara. For some reason she became a very interesting character for me this time around, and how you sort of develop a friendship with her was once again where I congratulate the writing staff.
James Vega, while not together an amazing character was surprisingly un-douchey. He actually has an extremely level head, and is kind of fun to talk to. Ashley was also given a really good personality makeover while remaining the same strong headed chick, but with a more level head and good sense of humor. I think them toning down the racism to being barely noticeable was a good call.
So far so good. A little disappointing to hear that the ending is apparently going to really suck considering how well it's going so far. And they sort of over-burden you with pointless remedial task where you really gotta say "Should Commander Shepard really be taking the time off of saving the Galaxy to go get some jewelry so you guys feel better?"
Also, this talk of the game being linear? No more linear than any of the other ones. The missions are just designed to make it look like something drastic has happened after the end of everything you do, which sort of makes you rush (though in a good way)
I chose Tali for the past few games, and the face didn't bother me at all. It was so poorly done, that I straight up didn't care. She still looks like the mysterious chick I pictured in my mind. If they had gone the full length and actually had pre-rendered mask taking offage, I would have been a little bummed.
Right about now, I've never cared more deeply for characters in a game. Sitting down with them during the R and R sections when you reach the Citadel was awesome. Hanging out with Garrus ended up really making me care for him. And for the first time, I actually sort of regret choosing Tali over Liara. For some reason she became a very interesting character for me this time around, and how you sort of develop a friendship with her was once again where I congratulate the writing staff.
James Vega, while not together an amazing character was surprisingly un-douchey. He actually has an extremely level head, and is kind of fun to talk to. Ashley was also given a really good personality makeover while remaining the same strong headed chick, but with a more level head and good sense of humor. I think them toning down the racism to being barely noticeable was a good call.
So far so good. A little disappointing to hear that the ending is apparently going to really suck considering how well it's going so far. And they sort of over-burden you with pointless remedial task where you really gotta say "Should Commander Shepard really be taking the time off of saving the Galaxy to go get some jewelry so you guys feel better?"
Also, this talk of the game being linear? No more linear than any of the other ones. The missions are just designed to make it look like something drastic has happened after the end of everything you do, which sort of makes you rush (though in a good way)
I... no.poiumty said:
The gameplay was improved, but this is the most ridiculous comment I've read on this thread (and there are some pretty ridiculous comments). If the gameplay is the one reason you're replaying the game, than you are insane. It's at least a 15+ hour game if you speed through it. More than 75% of that game is dialogue and navigating. Combat cannot hold a game like that up.
And in all reality, people are going apeshit on the story. They literally catered to almost every choice -even the remedial ones- from the past two games. Not only did something come out of it, that something is actually good (besides the endings which I hear are terrible).
It's not true hate.
It's people getting all angry over what would best be described as "minor flaws," and exaggerating the living hell out of said minor flaws.
It's people getting all angry over what would best be described as "minor flaws," and exaggerating the living hell out of said minor flaws.
Yes because everyone who hates a game that happens to be does so because every morning they burn their tongue because they drank their coffee before it was cool. Yes I know I already told that joke in the moderator group but it needs to be said again.Shock and Awe said:
Seriously, people always do this, they did it with Halo, Call of Duty, and every other game that is popular to those who aren't "hardcore"(Imagine that with immense sarcasm) gamers.
I do agree that up until the ending the game was amazing. I really felt emotionally moved in a lot of instances, so props there! But there were a few issues.
Whenever there were cutscenes with shep pushing his earpiece in, his fingers would glitch into his hand. It was rather unsettling.
How much the child is pushed onto us. Holy crap do they try really hard to make us care about the kid. It just feels forced, and incredibly cliched. I get that he's a "symbol of humanity" but come on, do you really expect gamers to care about somebody they just met when there are teammates that matter much more to them? He gets like three four lines of generic dialogue. C'mon devs, you're smarter than that. (Stranger still he's the only kid you ever see)
And of course, the endings. You'd think that they'd learn from fallout 3's mistake. Or maybe they did and are planning to release DLC for it. Either way, everything felt great and epic up until after the run to the beam. At that point I thought I was in another dream sequence.
Oh and this is a personal grip, but did anyone else feel like the music couldn't hold a candle compared to ME2's? I understand the tone is more desperate, but come on, when all of your fleets are flying behind you and all that? Give me some ME2 finale music.
Whenever there were cutscenes with shep pushing his earpiece in, his fingers would glitch into his hand. It was rather unsettling.
How much the child is pushed onto us. Holy crap do they try really hard to make us care about the kid. It just feels forced, and incredibly cliched. I get that he's a "symbol of humanity" but come on, do you really expect gamers to care about somebody they just met when there are teammates that matter much more to them? He gets like three four lines of generic dialogue. C'mon devs, you're smarter than that. (Stranger still he's the only kid you ever see)
And of course, the endings. You'd think that they'd learn from fallout 3's mistake. Or maybe they did and are planning to release DLC for it. Either way, everything felt great and epic up until after the run to the beam. At that point I thought I was in another dream sequence.
Oh and this is a personal grip, but did anyone else feel like the music couldn't hold a candle compared to ME2's? I understand the tone is more desperate, but come on, when all of your fleets are flying behind you and all that? Give me some ME2 finale music.
Fallout 3 didn't make a mistake, its endings were great and concluded the game as it should have been.Counterclockwise said:
The only "mistake" was releasing a game with good endings to a bunch of over-entitled and whiny gamers who complain over anything that isn't some overly drawn out ending dialog about everything your companions did, including what lunch they ate, for the next 36 years.
I loved ME3. The endings are the point of the entire thing. The mood of the entire game is setting us up for a hard ending, an unsatisfying, dark, hurtful choice, and then people complain about there not being sunshine and butterflies and how that huge, sprawling, independent world doesn't care about every one of our previous, little, ultimately insignificant choices. There's a lesson in there somewhere, isn't there? I think these endings, while they're not fun, and lovely, and sweet, are true, and make the game worth every minute of play.
Yes, hurling insults is a great way to get the point across.SajuukKhar said:
Now, it would help if we actually knew what was that point.
You like the endings? Good, that's nice, I guess? Not sure I'll ever get to them myself, so I'm not going to judge, but I still don't think hurling insults is a good way to explain why they're supposedly good. Still, from what I have seen of ME3 personally, BW tried kind of hard to go for "dark, gritty and edgy". Very hard. Maybe too hard.
And so far, the anti-ending team had a better case...you know, their case wasn't built on "Everyone who disagrees is a self-entitled moron".
I really don't get why people say the ending are terrible. Maybe they were expecting a big list of 'what happened after the battle' but that doesn't really close the series out very well. People need to sit back down and look at the game as a whole. The entire game was an ENDING people and you chose it yourself. The choice at the end was simply the culmination of all that.
I was pessimistic going in due mainly to the marketing and the devs saying a bunch of stupid stuff beforehand, but so far it's exceeding my expectations, and the (surprisingly little) bad is overshadowed by the good.
I have not played it, and the complaints that are valid make me extremely uneasy. But I still ain't buyin' it. Not while its attached to Origin, and definitely not what is on Origin at the price it is while I'm uneasy from complaints. So, I'm stickin' to my guns and my wallet. May seem unfair, but I'm nothin' but a man who sticks to his guns. I'm stubborn like that!
What about those of us who fall into all three bottom catagories. Though I just don't like male gays, I am quite the red-blooded typical male hypocrite and more than happy to admit that I'm perfectly fine with attractive female on female action.Somonah said:
Couldn't talk to my pilot after the first conversation where he mentioned his husband. Barf. Had to listen to that recording of his gay pal in the bay everytime until I finally just talked to him again and X'd through everything to get it to stop. I get it, you're gay. You don't need to remind me everytime we talk.