Poll: Will you buy HATRED?

[Thoughtful_Salt]

FUCK YES I'll get it. If only so I can dissect the everliving shit out of it and see if it is truly the first game that argues for evil and gets it right. Don't misunderstand me, I loathe the viewpoint, but as Roger Ebert said when he added Birth Of A Nation to his list of great movies "this move can teach you a lot about film, and possibly about evil". I AM GOING TO LOVE TEARING THIS GAME APART!!!

 

[pyramid head grape]

Looks like the old play the bad guy angle!

 

[Solbasa]

Meh. It looks boring. The only reason I can see myself maybe ever playing it is for the catharsis.

 

[Seishisha]

Gota say watched that trailer and now i realy wish i hadn't, my ignorance of this "game" was blissful.
No i will definatly not be buying this, it looks like a thriteen year old's idea of a dark and troubled protagonist, whether the game is trying to make some kind of ironic statement or is infact earnestly attempting to portray the life of a sociopathic murderer is beyond me.
Eitherway it looks pretty damn deplorable.

 

[DementedSheep]

A lot of the media I like is really violent but this? this is JUST violent and nothing about the game-play I've seen looks spectacular enough for me over look the oh so edgy teen angst vibe.

 

[chadachada123]

While this post may seem like an answer to a secondary question; a bit of a tangent; it explains why the second option, even if one doesn't buy the game, is the best mindset towards it. It pushes boundaries.

If we are too afraid to push boundaries in our medium, then video games will never truly be art.

True art HAS no boundaries. Even if this is terrible art, allowing it; despising it but acknowledging that it hasn't "gone too far," will pave the way for very great pieces containing elements of this.

The former half of this post should be ignored for this discussion (it is about GamerGate), but the last half is very, very relevant when talking of this. Especially pertaining to Shakespeare, etc.

"I want art to be fucking dangerous. I want artists to feel free to go as far as their demented imaginations can carry them. And if it's too much for me, or I find their work offensive, I don't need an art critic nanny to protect my delicate sensibilities. I'll just say, "that's crap," and refuse to buy the artist's work. You know, like a fucking adult with my own mind capable of determining for myself what is and is not worthwhile.

My sense of art is not democratic. It is a dictatorship. And they don't get either a vote nor a voice in that decision.

And that's probably why they squawk so much."

 

[not_you]

I said maybe if it's cheap....
Could be fun for a laugh at one point.... Assuming it's not banned in Australia...

but yeah, wait for a 75% off sale and I'll probably get it only to laugh at it...
For (almost) the same reason I bought Nation Red... Just something to light-heartedly laugh at while waiting for the glut of newer, better games to come out...

 

[Stu35]

Gone for No. It looks like a fairly boring game.


I have no moral issues regarding content - when it comes to art my stance is that either everything is ok, or nothing is - if some dickhead can take a shit on a piece of paper and call it "art" then nobody should give a fuck about a video game where the protagonist is a violent homicidal maniac.

If Michael Bay and take the Transformers and in the space of 3 excuses for Megan Fox to bend over whilst explosions happen in the background destroy a generations childhood memories of a cheesy Japanese excuse to sell toys...


I forget where I was going with this, point is; won't be playing it, but not on moral grounds.

 

[HoFT013]

I'm going to buy the game just to spite all the pussies complaining about it.

 

[NemotheElvenPanda]

I've always wanted a game where I could play as the actual, dyed-in-the-blood-of-babies, bad guy, cliches or not. There are too many games that make you a hero and not a villain. I'll check this out when I get the chance.

 

[Leonardo Huizar]

For the same reason I dont buy comics heavy with T&A: If I wanted Porn there are a dozen things i could go to instead of getting cheap tease from the funny pages

If i wanted to go gruesome videogame violence I have both Fallouts on 360 and several other alternatives than a glorified Modern GTA Rampage mode in grayscale... because colors werent in the budget

 

[Mikejames]

Welp, media's gonna be hyped for the chance to tear this one apart.

That said, it doesn't look like my cup of tea. I'm reminded of a Yahtzee quote on how Saints Row 2 had a better idea than Grand Theft Auto on why gamers want to cause wanton mayhem; because it didn't handle the violence with the same moral gravity of gritty realism. Crash some helicopters for laughs, not so you can hear desperate pleas for mercy from unarmed civilians.

 

[Something Amyss]

Welp, media's gonna hyped for the chance to tear this one apart.

That said, it doesn't look like my cup of tea. I'm reminded of a Yahtzee quote on how Saints Row 2 had a better idea than Grand Theft Auto on why gamers want to cause wanton mayhem; because it didn't handle the violence with the same moral gravity of gritty realism. Crash some helicopters for laughs, not so you can hear desperate pleas for mercy from unarmed civilians.

I can't speak for all gamers, but you definitely described my friends.

 

[Random Argument Man]

-It looks boring as fuck.
-Violence for only violence's sake is a boring concept.
-I'm trying to avoid the "conspiracy and the hate the world" group as much as possible. Why would I want to play a game that targets them only?
-There's plenty of other video games that can do gritty and bring something else to the table.
-If they are trying to deconstruct a genre for excessive violence, I just need to play Specs Ops again.


In summary, it looks boring and doesn't bring anything that can interest me. The only ones who will love it are people that hate the world already.

 

[stroopwafel]

Violence drawn into absurdity always becomes comical to me. That 'Hatred' trailer fits that description perfectly. I won't deny I had to chuckle a few times b/c its so over the top. Gameplay wise it looks a bit like Dead Nation so nothing special. No one would even mention this game if it wasn't for this 'controversy'. So job well done I suppose.

 

[Elijin]

The gameplay itself looked like a throwback to some silly fun top down shooter I recall from years back, only with a better engine for destruction of set pieces and such. But....without any real enemies to fight.

If they do a last minute rug pull, and go 'Hahah! Guys, we were kidding, blowing air up your butts to get some conversation going. Here is the real story we're going with, complete with actual enemies and purpose!'....then I might as a cheap nostalgia based purchase to catch a quick hour or two of 'Man, co-op top downs could be fun'.


But as is....why? Provocative content aside, I saw no appealing gameplay content due to the notion of killing stuff which isnt fighting back in a genre which is make or break by a decent challenge level.

 

[WindKnight]

I need to bring that brilliant piece of marketing up as often as possible.
My mum thought it was dumb so obviously it was high art and cool and spoke to me.

I;'m glad my mom never saw it because she'd hate it and then I'd have to buy it because lol gamers are all 12 and have a contrarian mentality!

But this model has worked well for White Wolf, so...

Just about everybody I've explained that campaign to has gone some variation on 'are you f***ing kidding me? how stupid are those guys?'

For me personally, it took me from actually wanting deadspace 2, to only picking it upa long time after release when steam had it on sale for less than £3.

 

[Something Amyss]

Just about everybody I've explained that campaign to has gone some variation on 'are you f***ing kidding me? how stupid are those guys?'

For me personally, it took me from actually wanting deadspace 2, to only picking it upa long time after release when steam had it on sale for less than £3.

Yeah, I rolled my eyes and moved on.

Part of this whole thing is that it strikes me as the equivalent of a kid dressing up in mommy or daddy's clothes and proclaiming "look how grown up I am!"

We understand that's not how it works. They don't seem to, though.

 

[Fdzzaigl]

Looks very much like Postal 1.

I might try it. Even though it was sort of weird, I did like Postal 1.

 

[CaitSeith]

While this post may seem like an answer to a secondary question; a bit of a tangent; it explains why the second option, even if one doesn't buy the game, is the best mindset towards it. It pushes boundaries.

If we are too afraid to push boundaries in our medium, then video games will never truly be art.

True art HAS no boundaries. Even if this is terrible art, allowing it; despising it but acknowledging that it hasn't "gone too far," will pave the way for very great pieces containing elements of this.

The former half of this post should be ignored for this discussion (it is about GamerGate), but the last half is very, very relevant when talking of this. Especially pertaining to Shakespeare, etc.

"I want art to be fucking dangerous. I want artists to feel free to go as far as their demented imaginations can carry them. And if it's too much for me, or I find their work offensive, I don't need an art critic nanny to protect my delicate sensibilities. I'll just say, "that's crap," and refuse to buy the artist's work. You know, like a fucking adult with my own mind capable of determining for myself what is and is not worthwhile.

My sense of art is not democratic. It is a dictatorship. And they don't get either a vote nor a voice in that decision.

And that's probably why they squawk so much."

The irony is that the developer stated this game was created against the trend of games heading to be polite, colorful, politically correct and trying to be some kind of higher art. So in this case, any artistic value will be unintentional.