Poll: Will you buy HATRED?
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I'm not gonna go so far as to say a definite answer after only having seen a trailer, because it seems that the trailer is simply for shock/discussion value, which has been utterly successful as far as I can see. Many people are quick to dismiss, but I've been deceived by excellent or horrendous trailers in the past and am not going to make that mistake again.
What it boils down to is, if it's NOT a tongue-in-cheek dark game, if all there is to it is mowing down citizens, and most of all if it's taking itself as serious as it appears to be, then no I won't touch it. But if it turns out to be trying to portray a message, or actually have some gameplay elements worth looking into, I'll give it a chance, if anything to try and see what's being attempted to achieve here. Yeah, the opening commentary also made me laugh, the executions and whatnot however aren't anything that hasn't been seen or done before, the tone of it doesn't bear much with me, still a game, after all.
What it boils down to is, if it's NOT a tongue-in-cheek dark game, if all there is to it is mowing down citizens, and most of all if it's taking itself as serious as it appears to be, then no I won't touch it. But if it turns out to be trying to portray a message, or actually have some gameplay elements worth looking into, I'll give it a chance, if anything to try and see what's being attempted to achieve here. Yeah, the opening commentary also made me laugh, the executions and whatnot however aren't anything that hasn't been seen or done before, the tone of it doesn't bear much with me, still a game, after all.
I don't get this game.
So the objective and main theme of the game, is to do exactly what you do when your bored in any sandbox shooter?
I mean, in a purely gaming experiance way,it seems like it will get boring very fast. You can only show someones head getting blown up in glorious chunks a set number of times before it turns into an annoying time waster.
I will admit though some of those death animations made me "euuugh" with the more realistic looking people and somewhat realistic physics.
I hope there is more to this a game then an ostracized high schoolers wet dream.
So the objective and main theme of the game, is to do exactly what you do when your bored in any sandbox shooter?
I mean, in a purely gaming experiance way,it seems like it will get boring very fast. You can only show someones head getting blown up in glorious chunks a set number of times before it turns into an annoying time waster.
I will admit though some of those death animations made me "euuugh" with the more realistic looking people and somewhat realistic physics.
I hope there is more to this a game then an ostracized high schoolers wet dream.
FUCK YES I'll get it. If only so I can dissect the everliving shit out of it and see if it is truly the first game that argues for evil and gets it right. Don't misunderstand me, I loathe the viewpoint, but as Roger Ebert said when he added Birth Of A Nation to his list of great movies "this move can teach you a lot about film, and possibly about evil". I AM GOING TO LOVE TEARING THIS GAME APART!!!
Gota say watched that trailer and now i realy wish i hadn't, my ignorance of this "game" was blissful.
No i will definatly not be buying this, it looks like a thriteen year old's idea of a dark and troubled protagonist, whether the game is trying to make some kind of ironic statement or is infact earnestly attempting to portray the life of a sociopathic murderer is beyond me.
Eitherway it looks pretty damn deplorable.
No i will definatly not be buying this, it looks like a thriteen year old's idea of a dark and troubled protagonist, whether the game is trying to make some kind of ironic statement or is infact earnestly attempting to portray the life of a sociopathic murderer is beyond me.
Eitherway it looks pretty damn deplorable.
A lot of the media I like is really violent but this? this is JUST violent and nothing about the game-play I've seen looks spectacular enough for me over look the oh so edgy teen angst vibe.
While this post may seem like an answer to a secondary question; a bit of a tangent; it explains why the second option, even if one doesn't buy the game, is the best mindset towards it. It pushes boundaries.
If we are too afraid to push boundaries in our medium, then video games will never truly be art.
True art HAS no boundaries. Even if this is terrible art, allowing it; despising it but acknowledging that it hasn't "gone too far," will pave the way for very great pieces containing elements of this.
The former half of this post should be ignored for this discussion (it is about GamerGate), but the last half is very, very relevant when talking of this. Especially pertaining to Shakespeare, etc.
"I want art to be fucking dangerous. I want artists to feel free to go as far as their demented imaginations can carry them. And if it's too much for me, or I find their work offensive, I don't need an art critic nanny to protect my delicate sensibilities. I'll just say, "that's crap," and refuse to buy the artist's work. You know, like a fucking adult with my own mind capable of determining for myself what is and is not worthwhile.
My sense of art is not democratic. It is a dictatorship. And they don't get either a vote nor a voice in that decision.
And that's probably why they squawk so much."
If we are too afraid to push boundaries in our medium, then video games will never truly be art.
True art HAS no boundaries. Even if this is terrible art, allowing it; despising it but acknowledging that it hasn't "gone too far," will pave the way for very great pieces containing elements of this.
The former half of this post should be ignored for this discussion (it is about GamerGate), but the last half is very, very relevant when talking of this. Especially pertaining to Shakespeare, etc.
"I want art to be fucking dangerous. I want artists to feel free to go as far as their demented imaginations can carry them. And if it's too much for me, or I find their work offensive, I don't need an art critic nanny to protect my delicate sensibilities. I'll just say, "that's crap," and refuse to buy the artist's work. You know, like a fucking adult with my own mind capable of determining for myself what is and is not worthwhile.
My sense of art is not democratic. It is a dictatorship. And they don't get either a vote nor a voice in that decision.
And that's probably why they squawk so much."
I said maybe if it's cheap....
Could be fun for a laugh at one point.... Assuming it's not banned in Australia...
but yeah, wait for a 75% off sale and I'll probably get it only to laugh at it...
For (almost) the same reason I bought Nation Red... Just something to light-heartedly laugh at while waiting for the glut of newer, better games to come out...
Could be fun for a laugh at one point.... Assuming it's not banned in Australia...
but yeah, wait for a 75% off sale and I'll probably get it only to laugh at it...
For (almost) the same reason I bought Nation Red... Just something to light-heartedly laugh at while waiting for the glut of newer, better games to come out...
Gone for No. It looks like a fairly boring game.
I have no moral issues regarding content - when it comes to art my stance is that either everything is ok, or nothing is - if some dickhead can take a shit on a piece of paper and call it "art" then nobody should give a fuck about a video game where the protagonist is a violent homicidal maniac.
If Michael Bay and take the Transformers and in the space of 3 excuses for Megan Fox to bend over whilst explosions happen in the background destroy a generations childhood memories of a cheesy Japanese excuse to sell toys...
I forget where I was going with this, point is; won't be playing it, but not on moral grounds.
I have no moral issues regarding content - when it comes to art my stance is that either everything is ok, or nothing is - if some dickhead can take a shit on a piece of paper and call it "art" then nobody should give a fuck about a video game where the protagonist is a violent homicidal maniac.
If Michael Bay and take the Transformers and in the space of 3 excuses for Megan Fox to bend over whilst explosions happen in the background destroy a generations childhood memories of a cheesy Japanese excuse to sell toys...
I forget where I was going with this, point is; won't be playing it, but not on moral grounds.
I've always wanted a game where I could play as the actual, dyed-in-the-blood-of-babies, bad guy, cliches or not. There are too many games that make you a hero and not a villain. I'll check this out when I get the chance.
For the same reason I dont buy comics heavy with T&A: If I wanted Porn there are a dozen things i could go to instead of getting cheap tease from the funny pages
If i wanted to go gruesome videogame violence I have both Fallouts on 360 and several other alternatives than a glorified Modern GTA Rampage mode in grayscale... because colors werent in the budget
If i wanted to go gruesome videogame violence I have both Fallouts on 360 and several other alternatives than a glorified Modern GTA Rampage mode in grayscale... because colors werent in the budget
Welp, media's gonna be hyped for the chance to tear this one apart.
That said, it doesn't look like my cup of tea. I'm reminded of a Yahtzee quote on how Saints Row 2 had a better idea than Grand Theft Auto on why gamers want to cause wanton mayhem; because it didn't handle the violence with the same moral gravity of gritty realism. Crash some helicopters for laughs, not so you can hear desperate pleas for mercy from unarmed civilians.
That said, it doesn't look like my cup of tea. I'm reminded of a Yahtzee quote on how Saints Row 2 had a better idea than Grand Theft Auto on why gamers want to cause wanton mayhem; because it didn't handle the violence with the same moral gravity of gritty realism. Crash some helicopters for laughs, not so you can hear desperate pleas for mercy from unarmed civilians.
-It looks boring as fuck.
-Violence for only violence's sake is a boring concept.
-I'm trying to avoid the "conspiracy and the hate the world" group as much as possible. Why would I want to play a game that targets them only?
-There's plenty of other video games that can do gritty and bring something else to the table.
-If they are trying to deconstruct a genre for excessive violence, I just need to play Specs Ops again.
In summary, it looks boring and doesn't bring anything that can interest me. The only ones who will love it are people that hate the world already.
-Violence for only violence's sake is a boring concept.
-I'm trying to avoid the "conspiracy and the hate the world" group as much as possible. Why would I want to play a game that targets them only?
-There's plenty of other video games that can do gritty and bring something else to the table.
-If they are trying to deconstruct a genre for excessive violence, I just need to play Specs Ops again.
In summary, it looks boring and doesn't bring anything that can interest me. The only ones who will love it are people that hate the world already.
Violence drawn into absurdity always becomes comical to me. That 'Hatred' trailer fits that description perfectly. I won't deny I had to chuckle a few times b/c its so over the top. Gameplay wise it looks a bit like Dead Nation so nothing special. No one would even mention this game if it wasn't for this 'controversy'. So job well done I suppose.