Poll: Witcher or Oblivion?

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Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
The Witcher was an immature mess. I don't like having to close myself in the bedroom because I don't want my family hearing the constant cursing. We aren't trailer trash (not that I am saying any of you are, the devs maybe) and we don't have potty mouths so we don't want our games to be like that either. The sex stuff was just dumb. Adults don't need to see that, it's kids who make a big deal out of T&A.

The Witcher is a good example of why mature content is anything but.

Oblivion, on the other hand, managed to get through 100 hours without making me worry about my family walking in on "mature" content.
Wait, you buy M-rated games and then get mad at them because they have content unsuitable for children?
It was over the top in The Witcher. Did you know that Oblivion was also M rated and it wasn't over the top? Most games aren't over the top.

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Doesnt have a grey haired prat named Gerald in it for starters.

That game tries so hard to be SUPER SRS N MATURE that it goes full circle into comic book levels of stupid.


Also, this thread was from 2011, someone here is guilty of necromancy.
Hm, normally I am pretty good at spotting necros, missed this one.

At any rate, I see the same thing from Oblivion. The story is trying to be really serious but it goes full circle in that it feels like it was written by a 14 year old who just watched the movie Excalibur. I don't think I could credit Oblivion any credit over the Witcher in terms of maturity, personally.
 

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Crono1973 said:
Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
The Witcher was an immature mess. I don't like having to close myself in the bedroom because I don't want my family hearing the constant cursing. We aren't trailer trash (not that I am saying any of you are, the devs maybe) and we don't have potty mouths so we don't want our games to be like that either. The sex stuff was just dumb. Adults don't need to see that, it's kids who make a big deal out of T&A.

The Witcher is a good example of why mature content is anything but.

Oblivion, on the other hand, managed to get through 100 hours without making me worry about my family walking in on "mature" content.
Wait, you buy M-rated games and then get mad at them because they have content unsuitable for children?
It was over the top in The Witcher. Did you know that Oblivion was also M rated and it wasn't over the top? Most games aren't over the top.
It says on the back of the box why it's rated what it's rated, and you can go to the ESRB website [http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=25787&searchkeyword=witcher] and read about the rating in greater detail. Seriously, this is like getting mad at a hard-R movie like Valhalla Rising because soft-R movies like The Matrix also exist.
 

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Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
The Witcher was an immature mess. I don't like having to close myself in the bedroom because I don't want my family hearing the constant cursing. We aren't trailer trash (not that I am saying any of you are, the devs maybe) and we don't have potty mouths so we don't want our games to be like that either. The sex stuff was just dumb. Adults don't need to see that, it's kids who make a big deal out of T&A.

The Witcher is a good example of why mature content is anything but.

Oblivion, on the other hand, managed to get through 100 hours without making me worry about my family walking in on "mature" content.
Wait, you buy M-rated games and then get mad at them because they have content unsuitable for children?
It was over the top in The Witcher. Did you know that Oblivion was also M rated and it wasn't over the top? Most games aren't over the top.
It says on the back of the box why it's rated what it's rated, and you can go to the ESRB website [http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=25787&searchkeyword=witcher] and read about the rating in greater detail. Seriously, this is like getting mad at a hard-R movie like Valhalla Rising because soft-R movies like The Matrix also exist.
I don't recall "getting mad" but it seems that you are. I know it infuriates you that someone has a different opinion but chill the fuck out.
 

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Crono1973 said:
Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
The Witcher was an immature mess. I don't like having to close myself in the bedroom because I don't want my family hearing the constant cursing. We aren't trailer trash (not that I am saying any of you are, the devs maybe) and we don't have potty mouths so we don't want our games to be like that either. The sex stuff was just dumb. Adults don't need to see that, it's kids who make a big deal out of T&A.

The Witcher is a good example of why mature content is anything but.

Oblivion, on the other hand, managed to get through 100 hours without making me worry about my family walking in on "mature" content.
Wait, you buy M-rated games and then get mad at them because they have content unsuitable for children?
It was over the top in The Witcher. Did you know that Oblivion was also M rated and it wasn't over the top? Most games aren't over the top.
It says on the back of the box why it's rated what it's rated, and you can go to the ESRB website [http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=25787&searchkeyword=witcher] and read about the rating in greater detail. Seriously, this is like getting mad at a hard-R movie like Valhalla Rising because soft-R movies like The Matrix also exist.
I don't recall "getting mad" but it seems that you are. I know it infuriates you that someone has a different opinion but chill the fuck out.
No, not really. I'm just slightly bemused that "this game has content that merits an M-rating" is a reason anyone would dislike an M-rated game.
 

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uggghhhh

I guess I got a little more enoyment out of oblivion..though thats not saying much

If I were forced to play eather Id go with witcher, at least it would be more interesting
 

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Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
Kahunaburger said:
Crono1973 said:
The Witcher was an immature mess. I don't like having to close myself in the bedroom because I don't want my family hearing the constant cursing. We aren't trailer trash (not that I am saying any of you are, the devs maybe) and we don't have potty mouths so we don't want our games to be like that either. The sex stuff was just dumb. Adults don't need to see that, it's kids who make a big deal out of T&A.

The Witcher is a good example of why mature content is anything but.

Oblivion, on the other hand, managed to get through 100 hours without making me worry about my family walking in on "mature" content.
Wait, you buy M-rated games and then get mad at them because they have content unsuitable for children?
It was over the top in The Witcher. Did you know that Oblivion was also M rated and it wasn't over the top? Most games aren't over the top.
It says on the back of the box why it's rated what it's rated, and you can go to the ESRB website [http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=25787&searchkeyword=witcher] and read about the rating in greater detail. Seriously, this is like getting mad at a hard-R movie like Valhalla Rising because soft-R movies like The Matrix also exist.

I don't recall "getting mad" but it seems that you are. I know it infuriates you that someone has a different opinion but chill the fuck out.
No, not really. I'm just slightly bemused that "this game has content that merits an M-rating" is a reason anyone would dislike an M-rated game.
Most games I buy are M rated but most games don't go over the top. Part of the reason I didn't buy Witcher 2 was because of this but the biggest reason is because I just didn't enjoy the gameplay of the first game.
 

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Savagezion said:
flaming_squirrel said:
Doesnt have a grey haired prat named Gerald in it for starters.

That game tries so hard to be SUPER SRS N MATURE that it goes full circle into comic book levels of stupid.


Also, this thread was from 2011, someone here is guilty of necromancy.
Hm, normally I am pretty good at spotting necros, missed this one.

At any rate, I see the same thing from Oblivion. The story is trying to be really serious but it goes full circle in that it feels like it was written by a 14 year old who just watched the movie Excalibur. I don't think I could credit Oblivion any credit over the Witcher in terms of maturity, personally.
The Witcher gives you a dirty postcard when you screw each personality void you find at the side of the road and makes NPC's spout profanity at every opportunity to make the story appear more DARK N HARC0R3.

Oblivion does neither of these and so even if it was the worst game in the world deserves a great deal more respect for not stooping to the level of tits and naughty words.
And it has Patrick Stewart.

The Elder scrolls has had some very silly quests in every part of the series, it takes it self much less seriously then some other Fantasy RPG's. If anything it's high fantasy, so you can hardly claim it appears to be written by a 14 year old.
 

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Haven't played the second Witcher game, but the first one... well, didn't have too great an experience.
I'll stick to Elder Scrolls.
 

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flaming_squirrel said:
The Witcher gives you a dirty postcard when you screw each personality void you find at the side of the road and makes NPC's spout profanity at every opportunity to make the story appear more DARK N HARC0R3.

Oblivion does neither of these and so even if it was the worst game in the world deserves a great deal more respect for not stooping to the level of tits and naughty words.
And it has Patrick Stewart.

The Elder scrolls has had some very silly quests in every part of the series, it takes it self much less seriously then some other Fantasy RPG's. If anything it's high fantasy, so you can hardly claim it appears to be written by a 14 year old.
We will probably have to agree to disagree.

To me, adding tits and cuss words doesn't make something less mature. The maturity is how the content is handled. Both of these games handled their content in an immature manner. ONe of them had content of boobs and cussing and overemphasized them immaturely. The other one had content of less "offensive" nature but so cliche it seems written for a child. The Witcher had some characters and dialogue I found interesting in it, Oblivion didn't, unfortunately. Actually, on the contrary Oblivion had many characters I found to actually drag down the game.

Personally, I find the content within the witcher perfectly fine but the way it was presented was immature. Oblivion I found the content only a tad stale but, it too, was delivered in an immature way which amplified the staleness. Dragon Age is a bit stale, but I think the delivery is handled much better and it is easy to look past the cliches.

I probably could have written it when I was 14. I know I could have at 15. I have been into high fantasy since I was 10-11. Though, I have always been fairly decent at writing. I will clarify that I am referring to the main quest and many of the side quests. My attention span would have never lasted into the lore books and all the other stuff. Having the main character be destined due to the stars, though? Piece of cake. I actually consider that extremely contrived. The King of Tamriel, basically, just hands the prisoner the Amulet of Kings because he has a 'feeling' about it in a chaotic scenario? The Blades don't question this and escort you to ensure it? Even if they do believe the retarded king, they don't go with you to verify the account? Everyone just believes the king did this and you didn't kill him and/or steal it?

This is bad writing. Much of Oblivion's story and quests are told with very contrived motives for the characters. I would definitely call the writing immature. The lack of boobs doesn't act as a credit to its maturity.
 

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Savagezion said:
To me, adding tits and cuss words doesn't make something less mature. The maturity is how the content is handled. Both of these games handled their content in an immature manner. ONe of them had content of boobs and cussing and overemphasized them immaturely. The other one had content of less "offensive" nature but so cliche it seems written for a child. The Witcher had some characters and dialogue I found interesting in it, Oblivion didn't, unfortunately.
This. A Song of Ice and Fire has gratuitous swearing and sex scenes, but it's miles better than the Inheritance trilogy "cycle" because it has good ideas and generally solid writing. Same principle.
 

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If this is the first witcher compared to oblivion, then oblivion by far. The combat in witcher 1 felt awful for me, but I toughed it out for the story.
 

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The Witcher. Also the sequel.

Oblivion was the low point in the modern Elder Scrolls games, I'm sad to say.