Dellaudis said:
Da_Vane said:
It has been disproven that there is a difference between a male to female transsexual and a female on a genetic level. While this may not be every case, it only needs one exception to disprove flawed logic, and there have been exceptions.
I'm sorry, I don't follow. Mind explaining this part a bit more?
Certainly. Under the rules of logic, it only takes a single exception to disprove a rule. If you say something like "All Bings are Bongs" then it only takes one example where a Bing is not a Bong to disprove that rule.
Kendarik argued that MtF transsexuals may say they are women, but will never be women, and is inferring this is a case for all MtF transsexuals. This is a gross overgeneralization, since I have already stated the case of the sheer diversity of the transgender community, to which the poll refers to, of which transsexuals are actually a subset, even though the causes of transsexuality are just as equally just as diverse.
Thus, as long as one example exists where there isn't a genetic difference between a female a male to female transsexual, I can logically refute Kendarik's argument. Such an example does indeed exist.
There is a condition based on the inability of the body to register certain sex hormones. It exists in both a form which fails to register androgens (male sex hormones) and gynogens (female sex hormones) the result is that regardless of the sex chromosomes the person actually has, this insensitivity will cause the individual to grow either female or male, respectively. It is not unheard of for patients suffering from this condition to become transsexual, albeit with some difficulty, since the hormonal insensitivity is an obvious issue that needs working around.
Thus, you have a male to female transsexual who is genetically identical to a genetic female. At least, genetically identical as far as the sex chromosomes are concerned. It could be argued they are not exactly genetically identical, but unless you are expecting to be dealing with genetically identical twins, chances are any argument based on this level of genetically identical subjects is going to be virtually impossible.
That said, given the nature of shared environments in the womb and hormonal imbalances, identical twins do actually tend to result in a slightly increased number of homosexual males and male to female transsexuals. There's not enough samples to do a real study on this though.