Poll: Would you date a transgendered person?
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Bigot. Original. Is that how you end arguments?ploppytheman said:
It is obviously a problem. Any evolutionary benefit homosexuality may have had, and it may not have even had any, is no longer relevant. People are too stuck in their PC mindset to step outside and look at what they are. And deviation from heterosexuality is an error and should be fixed. People argue about gay rights when in reality the problem IS homosexuality.
I mean you say its not a choice, your born that way, so its obviously something that can be fixed when we find the right variables. But this generation is too engrained in PC and afraid to think so maybe the next generation will realize, hey, this is not how my body is supposed to work and I would like it to be fixed, what can we do about this? People make homosexuality who they are rather than a part of them, so they can never let go of it.
Doesn't matter really, I mean how many people who are afflicted by this would take a pill to stop it? I'm sure a lot of people hate they are homosexual or w/e. And in 50yrs once people stop being PC retards they will find a cure for it and this will be archived in libraries where few people even know about. I'd almost be willing to vote for gay rights to accelerate the process.[/quote]
Evolutionary perfect has become a null point and is utterly irrelivent, indeed the whole definition of evolution is that it occurs naturally and is propagated by environmental factors affecting how well certain traits behave in the environment. It could be seen homosexuality is an evolutionary step due to our metropolitan environment, that everyone can get along a bit more efficiency (Male to male, female to female, male to male to male and a bit of female etc). This of course is silly as gay men can't naturally breed but it's closer to social evolution where segregating people makes survival and living that bit harder and more unpleasant. You speak as though homosexualy is a disease that needs curing, in short that is what Eugenics is and labelling someone diseased, inefficient or whatever you like is called being bigoted, it is judgemental and silly. Everyone has an opinion, most are factually wrong. That homosexualy can be 'cured' is factually wrong. It can be repressed through abuse like it was which causes trauma and various neurological issues (Which are problems that need curing) making being a Bigot a disease that you carry and inflict on people, causing severe neurological problems.
See why you're argument is stupid? Go take a pill and cure yourself of your disease, we will all be better for it.
Edit: Something broke the syntax/quotes. Bloody hell
Bigot. Original. Is that how you end arguments?ploppytheman said:
It is obviously a problem. Any evolutionary benefit homosexuality may have had, and it may not have even had any, is no longer relevant. People are too stuck in their PC mindset to step outside and look at what they are. And deviation from heterosexuality is an error and should be fixed. People argue about gay rights when in reality the problem IS homosexuality.
I mean you say its not a choice, your born that way, so its obviously something that can be fixed when we find the right variables. But this generation is too engrained in PC and afraid to think so maybe the next generation will realize, hey, this is not how my body is supposed to work and I would like it to be fixed, what can we do about this? People make homosexuality who they are rather than a part of them, so they can never let go of it.
Doesn't matter really, I mean how many people who are afflicted by this would take a pill to stop it? I'm sure a lot of people hate they are homosexual or w/e. And in 50yrs once people stop being PC retards they will find a cure for it and this will be archived in libraries where few people even know about. I'd almost be willing to vote for gay rights to accelerate the process.[/quote]
Blimey, this is... an interesting post.
Right, the best way to tackle something like this is questions, get you to analyse your own point.
Why is heterosexuality right?
If evolutionary benefits don't matter, why is homosexuality wrong?
What makes a deviation from heterosexuality wrong?
If it causes no damage to the person, and they can enjoy their life just as fully as a heterosexual person, why should people become heterosexual?
People are born heterosexual, does that mean we should work out the "cure" for heterosexuality?
These people who hate being homosexual, what if the reason they hate it is because society is insisting that homosexuality is wrong?
Why should your morals impact on people's freedom to accepted and treated equally as who they are?
I suppose I should also offer my opinion, which is that a "cure" for homosexuality would set back the gay rights movement by years, by validating all the right-wing rhetoric about homosexuality being a choice, and it'll also lead to pressuring people into becoming heterosexual, rather than accepting themselves as themselves.
They aren't women, they are dudes. They turn their dick inside out so ur literally sticking ur dick in their dick, which is obviously gay even typing it makes me feel sick.Montezuma said:
Whatever gender you are born at birth, thats what you are for life. If you feel different then your brain is wrong because your gender is in your chromosomes which you cant change.
Cutting off your dick doesnt change it.
Pretending to act like a woman doesnt change it.
Wearing girl clothes doens't change it.
Taking hormones doesn't change it.
And there are all the things that dont change like facial structure, giant hands, hips, etc and most importantly CHILDREN.
It doesn't change it but it makes the TG individual feel better and have a better quality of life, you making an issue of it makes the treatment/solution of their neurological disorder (Sorry, that's offensive) less effective. Making you another thing that needs cutting off...ploppytheman said:
Ah, here's the argument I was looking for.ploppytheman said:
You're so deathly terrified of homosexuals, that the very idea of them sickens you.
So how's that closet treating you?
Heterosexuality is right in most cultures and religions and anything else is wrong, even to the point of killing those people it is believe to be so wrong and harmful. Heterosexuality is needed for evolution and the way animals procreate. In humans anything other than heterosexuality serves no purpose.
Homosexuality is just an error that has yet to be corrected, like any genetic disease or anything else unwanted. People are too PC atm to see it and think its like being black so people are too afraid to say anything.
Im pretty sure if you look up the statistics for STDs and drug use in homosexual men and the other groups you will see great harm. Go look at the CDC for AIDS and other STDs.
You cant cure whats right. Heterosexaulity is the proper expression for sex, which leads to children and families. Homosexuality cannot produce children or families.
It doesnt matter why they hate being a homosexual. Why do you think you need to be the person that gets to choose for them if you care so much about freedom?
And yes I would have my morals affect others freedom, punish them for their crimes, and take their lives and/or property for violating them.
Gay rights wouldnt need to exist because there would be no more gay people in a generation. The problem would solve itself. No one really wants to be gay. I've heard a lot of people say who would choose this life, and they are right.
Why do you care what some politicians think? So you'd rather remain broken to stick it to the Republicans? Ill show you!!! Ill be gay and get rights rather than do whats best for me and the group I identify with! HA STUPID REPUBLICANS!!!
You shouldn't accept homosexuality ever because then you've gave up. Maybe you should talk to the right wingers and tell em you want money to cure homosexuality, I'm sure they'd give you funding. And who are you to deny the people who DONT want to be homosexual or w/e a chance to live a normal life. Thats pretty selfish to people you claim to want to help, and the future people who are born homosexual etc.
I'm sorry, but I'm not even going to grace this with a response. You hear me internet? You win! I resign, I can't do this, I'm not willing to sit, read and respond to bigotry for my whole life. Stuff this thread, I need to go take a breather.ploppytheman said:
Look Ploppy, what you have written here is monsterously offensive, stupid and ignorant. I'm signing off before I get myself warned.
You have ignored every logical argument and every legitimate comparison against everything you have said. Not only that, but you brought up a preference, as an argument for genetics, you are trying to say something that is untrue in any manner of thinking, I am not physically, mentally, or emotionally attracted to me therefore I am not homosexual. Transgender people are still genetically their original gender.Montezuma said:
Some people are afraid of what they don't understand, some people disapprove of the idea, and all straight men are sexually turned off by the thought of having sex with men. The person you quoted never said they hated homosexuals, they never said they were afraid of them, they said putting their penis inside another penis makes them feel sick.Montezuma said:
Bigot. Original. Is that how you end arguments?ploppytheman said:
It is obviously a problem. Any evolutionary benefit homosexuality may have had, and it may not have even had any, is no longer relevant. People are too stuck in their PC mindset to step outside and look at what they are. And deviation from heterosexuality is an error and should be fixed. People argue about gay rights when in reality the problem IS homosexuality.
I mean you say its not a choice, your born that way, so its obviously something that can be fixed when we find the right variables. But this generation is too engrained in PC and afraid to think so maybe the next generation will realize, hey, this is not how my body is supposed to work and I would like it to be fixed, what can we do about this? People make homosexuality who they are rather than a part of them, so they can never let go of it.
Doesn't matter really, I mean how many people who are afflicted by this would take a pill to stop it? I'm sure a lot of people hate they are homosexual or w/e. And in 50yrs once people stop being PC retards they will find a cure for it and this will be archived in libraries where few people even know about. I'd almost be willing to vote for gay rights to accelerate the process.[/quote]
While it is true that the Darwinian fitness of homosexuals is zero I do not think that necessarily makes homosexuality a problem. Society is already facing the problem of overpopulation and we do not need more babies. Please demonstrate that the deviancy of homosexuality is something that needs a cure when the only problem caused by homosexuality is not being able to reproduce through natural means. I agree that if a cure can be invented it would certainly be a boon. Hell, I, as a heterosexual man, would readily take a pill to make me bisexual.
I don't understand why you apparently are unwilling to vote for gay rights. We do not have a way to change sexual orientation yet so where's the harm in allowing gays to marry each other? They aren't harming anything by marrying each other and it's not like having illegal gay marriage will make them not gay.
More on Topic: I don't really have such a big issue with transgendered people but given the choice I would prefer someone with two X chromosomes. There's no substitute for real pussy.
Why not, I'm not so shallow that I judge a woman based on what she was in her past.
I judge her based on how hot she is.
I judge her based on how hot she is.
