Poll: Would you kick a puppy?

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Astoria

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Pfft no. How could anyone hurt that adorable little puppy. Unless it was really really really annoying little thing that didn't respond to any kind of discipline.
 

AlexNora

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about the naiz's just becase they made bad choices and deserver justice (or being put to death) doesn't mean there lifes where pointless i bet alot of them thought they where doing what was best. some of my family members have been murdered and i believe there murders should be put to death but i cant find it in me to think nothing of them or to completely hate them.
 

Falconsgyre

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rmb1983 said:
1) No.
2) Not that puppy either, no.
3) $15 is still an insignificant amount of money to do something heartless (because you specified that one would have to inflict real harm/injury upon the puppy to be awarded the money).
4) Yes, if it was YOUR puppy. Why? Because you made this poll.Joking. I still wouldn't kick your puppy.
kman123 said:
I will however kick the puppy next door that's been barking at ridiculous times of the night/morning over the past 2 months.
Thankfully, my latest move hasn't brought that issue into play. I've definitely entertained that notion at some previous abodes, though.
Monkfish Acc. said:
If there are complaints I can just kick the dude with the money instead.
That'd be my #5. After I kick his puppy due to the absurd poll.Still joking. I'd only kick the person.
You kick my puppy and you're going down.

Seriously, I don't get why people are pissed by the poll. I put up a disclaimer saying I'd never actually ask someone to do it, and I personally think it's far too trivial a reason as well.
 

Manwat

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I like how alot of people go on about how they couldn't do it. Unless it wasn't cute/obedient.

I guess the argument boils down to how badly do you need the money and how much damage are you doing to the dog. Bruises and welts? A-okay by my book. Toughens them up. Broken bones? That's a little cruel (no matter how pugly it may look).
 

rmb1983

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brandon237 said:
You know why I would kick the person?
Because they should understand that what they did was wrong and greedy. They have potentially ruined this puppy's life with serious injury (that can be up to 15 years of suffering, and for a dog that is always loyal to a good owner, and lives to enjoy life and run full speed ahead all the time, a crippling injury is as bad as it gets) for $15 F---ing dollars?

The person was a greedy bastard and deserves to get the kick in return, the puppy does not know greed, evil, right or wrong. Animals don't understand these concepts, we do. But that does not make them stupid, it does not make them unable to feel pain, unable to suffer or understand that it is getting hurt by the one who kicked it.

So just because you have an advantage in size and intelligence you should injure and take advantage of this puppy to get, of all things, richer?

Humans are always more beautiful than stupid dogs?
Humans can be cruel, evil, greedy and many more. Animals are pure, they do not understand, or need to understand these things, and to injure one for such a trivial reason just goes to show that you are, at the very least, greedy and slightly uncaring.
How people treat animals is a good indicator of how they would treat other people if they had such an advantage over them, it shows how caring you are to those lower in the pecking order than yourself. And from this I can say that I am glad you have no power over me.
AlexNora said:
I really don't care that you think animals have intelligence (witch they don't they have instinct nothing more)but by your logic even the ones we eat should have intelligence and killing them should be wrong. no its not for food its for money think about all the food that goes to waste in the US. you gonna cry about that to? kicking a dog is like kicking a brick the only reason you might not do it is because you could hurt your foot. don't let the cuteness of a puppy stir up your emotions and cloud your logic.(and yes I do think puppy's are cute)you clearly place the idea of a dog higher then me, and instead of using logic to try and win your argument you go around trying to insulting/hurt me. make better choices become a wise person kill the animals save the babies!
I bolded the part of his argument that really has weight against any possible reasoning you could lobby for hurting an animal for no just reason. Survival is a different matter entirely. $5 or $15 is a stupid reason to seriously hurt anything; whether it's an animal or person is irrelevant.

You're also reading far too much into his statements. Nowhere did he say that animals possessed intelligence. On the other hand, they do, just not in the same capacity as we do. They're primarily instinctual, but look no further than the way a lot of carnivores hunt for some good examples of animal intelligence at work. Just because we operate on a completely different level, does not mean animals are devoid of all intelligent thought.
And really, who are the stupid ones? We trudge to work every day to keep a roof over their heads, put food in their bowls, and just generally love the ever-living out of them. Sure, they're loyal, and they love you, and Mr. Whiskers is just so adorable, but that's a pretty one-sided deal. Especially when it comes time to clean the litter box/back yard.
 

Denamic

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No, but I'd kick the person who would offer me money to kick a puppy.
I like dogs more than I like people.
 

Zhukov

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No.

However, I would happily kick the person offering me the money.
 

rmb1983

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falconsgyre said:
rmb1983 said:
1) No.
2) Not that puppy either, no.
3) $15 is still an insignificant amount of money to do something heartless (because you specified that one would have to inflict real harm/injury upon the puppy to be awarded the money).
4) Yes, if it was YOUR puppy. Why? Because you made this poll.Joking. I still wouldn't kick your puppy.
kman123 said:
I will however kick the puppy next door that's been barking at ridiculous times of the night/morning over the past 2 months.
Thankfully, my latest move hasn't brought that issue into play. I've definitely entertained that notion at some previous abodes, though.
Monkfish Acc. said:
If there are complaints I can just kick the dude with the money instead.
That'd be my #5. After I kick his puppy due to the absurd poll.Still joking. I'd only kick the person.
You kick my puppy and you're going down.

Seriously, I don't get why people are pissed by the poll. I put up a disclaimer saying I'd never actually ask someone to do it, and I personally think it's far too trivial a reason as well.
I guess you missed my footnotes, eh? ;)
 

Zorg Machine

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Rule 1 in how to succeed in life: don't be a dick.

I wouldn't kick a puppy for any price because it would make me a total asshole.
 

Falconsgyre

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rmb1983 said:
falconsgyre said:
You kick my puppy and you're going down.

Seriously, I don't get why people are pissed by the poll. I put up a disclaimer saying I'd never actually ask someone to do it, and I personally think it's far too trivial a reason as well.
I guess you missed my footnotes, eh? ;)
Hey, I don't want to get kicked either.
 

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frozen_scarecrow said:
Sure, for five bucks. No matter how cute it is, and the picture is cute, it's just an animal. I would have no problem doing it. I wouldn't want to drop kick it over a fence, or kill it, but a solid kick would be fine.
I'm pretty sure you just failed humanity, hey?
 

AlexNora

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rmb1983 said:
brandon237 said:
AlexNora said:
brandon237 said:
AlexNora said:
brandon237 said:
hypocrite

you say they feel pain but then you would turn around kick a person that also feels pain

animals are nothing any human is far more beautiful than a stupid dog

and that person that would kick the dog would not be insane or cruel he'd be 15 dollars richer and possible have a small meal.

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You know why I would kick the person?
Because they should understand that what they did was wrong and greedy. They have potentially ruined this puppy's life with serious injury (that can be up to 15 years of suffering, and for a dog that is always loyal to a good owner, and lives to enjoy life and run full speed ahead all the time, a crippling injury is as bad as it gets) for $15 F---ing dollars?

The person was a greedy bastard and deserves to get the kick in return, the puppy does not know greed, evil, right or wrong. Animals don't understand these concepts, we do. But that does not make them stupid, it does not make them unable to feel pain, unable to suffer or understand that it is getting hurt by the one who kicked it.

So just because you have an advantage in size and intelligence you should injure and take advantage of this puppy to get, of all things, richer?

Humans are always more beautiful than stupid dogs?
Humans can be cruel, evil, greedy and many more. Animals are pure, they do not understand, or need to understand these things, and to injure one for such a trivial reason just goes to show that you are, at the very least, greedy and slightly uncaring.
How people treat animals is a good indicator of how they would treat other people if they had such an advantage over them, it shows how caring you are to those lower in the pecking order than yourself. And from this I can say that I am glad you have no power over me.
prove its wrong to kick a puppy don't just say it is. it is not wrong to kick a puppy or kill a duck to... I don't know stuff it, or grind up a cow for a hamburger, or use animals in medical test to save a human life or to just to test stuff.

humans are more beautiful then animals, "even the naiz's where cute when there where little you know, why cant they stay small but ..."
Prove you have read my post before replying.

"Animals don't understand these concepts, we do. But that does not make them stupid, it does not make them unable to feel pain, unable to suffer or understand that it is getting hurt by the one who kicked it.

So just because you have an advantage in size and intelligence you should injure and take advantage of this puppy to get, of all things, richer?"


If that to you does not make it wrong, then you are someone on the selfish to psychopath spectrum.

I am okay with using animals for food or to save lives, but not for the purpose of making money (ie: cosmetic tests, you have prisoners for that), entertainment (hunting) or just cause (stuffing it, also falls into money).

Yeah, but the nazi's grew up to be evil, genocidal bastards, the puppy won't, no animal will. Their moral simplicity is what makes animals beautiful, they do what they must to survive, they do not cause harm they must not, they have no need for laws or politics that change. If that is not beautiful, then nothing is, no system ever will be.
I really don't care that you think animals have intelligence (witch they don't they have instinct nothing more)but by your logic even the ones we eat should have intelligence and killing them should be wrong. no its not for food its for money think about all the food that goes to waste in the US. you gonna cry about that to? kicking a dog is like kicking a brick the only reason you might not do it is because you could hurt your foot. don't let the cuteness of a puppy stir up your emotions and cloud your logic.(and yes I do think puppy's are cute)you clearly place the idea of a dog higher then me, and instead of using logic to try and win your argument you go around trying to insulting/hurt me. make better choices become a wise person kill the animals save the babies!
I bolded the part of his argument that really has weight against any possible reasoning you could lobby for hurting an animal for no just reason. Survival is a different matter entirely. $5 or $15 is a stupid reason to seriously hurt anything; whether it's an animal or person is irrelevant.

You're also reading far too much into his statements. Nowhere did he say that animals possessed intelligence. On the other hand, they do, just not in the same capacity as we do. They're primarily instinctual, but look no further than the way a lot of carnivores hunt for some good examples of animal intelligence at work. Just because we operate on a completely different level, does not mean animals are devoid of all intelligent thought.
And really, who are the stupid ones? We trudge to work every day to keep a roof over their heads, put food in their bowls, and just generally love the ever-living out of them. Sure, they're loyal, and they love you, and Mr. Whiskers is just so adorable, but that's a pretty one-sided deal. Especially when it comes time to clean the litter box/back yard.
what if you need the 15 dollars to survive?

lol are you trying to prove me right? I don't work for a dog, own a dog, and don't spend money to take care of one. but i find the fact that some people do interesting and not at all bad or stupid (they can be useful tools)in and of itself but you better treat you kids better then that stupid animal.

do rememberer I said people are more beautiful not that animals are not, there cute little food stuffs them animals.

i also find it interesting that the very fact they asked the question deserves reprimand. you don't have to kick the dog for 15$ dollars, but does the person asking you to really deserver to be kicked possible even killed by you just for asking you to? some of the post i'm reading seem to think so.


but I understand you all have some form of attachment to animals and it blocks your logic (im sounding pretentious)

but im done for tonight its 3am and im getting sleepy and confused (im not sue if my post make scene anymore)
 

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Chemical Horse said:
falconsgyre said:
Chemical Horse said:
You forgot to put the option "No, it's not morally acceptable to hurt an animal." because some people wouldn't hurt animals, trivial reason or not.

(please no one beat me with sticks for saying that.)
That's what the "trivial reason" thing is trying to get at. There are some situations in which it is definitely okay to hurt an animal, such as in self-defense. Very few people would disagree with that, so I felt it wouldn't be worth it to include an option for that.
Fair enough, but I know there are people who would consider cows being slaughtered for food a trivial matter.
Yes. Some people. I, uh, definitely don't know anyone who thinks like that very personally.
 

theguiltyone

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Adding to the chorus of people who would kick the person soliciting animal abuse.

And who want to kick the people who said they'd hurt that sweet thing for a mere $5.
 

Cheesus333

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I genuinely don't know why anyone would kick a dog for that amount of money. It would take a hell of a lot more than approximately 8 or 9 quid for me to hurt a baby dog. And even if it were in the thousands I'd feel terrible about it.
 

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No I wouldn't. Not for $5 or $15. If they offered me more money, though, I'd punch them as hard as I could straight in the nose.

And there should be a "No, because hurting animals, for any reason other than in self defense when genuinely fearing for your life or that of a loved one, is disgusting" option.
 

Vern

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No, as much as I would like to dropkick some of the dogs I've met, I wouldn't. They're just dogs, they do what dogs do. The bark, they can bite, they can also lay on their backs and love rib scratches, ear scratches, back scratches. They can also shake hands and stand up, lay down. If you have a shitty dog, odds are it's the owners fault for teaching them to be shitty. Dogs have their own personalities, and genetic traits, but those only go as far as what the owner lets them get away with. If the owner teaches a doberman from day one that it's not okay to maul children, it probably won't. If the owner teaches a poodle from day one that it's okay to go for a child's jugular, it probably will. If you see a shitty dog, kick the owner, not the dog.

And honestly, I've never seen anything cuter than a German Shepherd puppy. I'm a guy who thinks baby alligators, turtles, snakes, and bearded dragons are some of the cutest things in the world. But German Shepherd puppies are adorable.

And I wouldn't kick it for money. I can tell right now, that if I was given a million dollars for kicking a puppy with a steel toed boot I would regret it. I didn't do anything to deserve the money, I didn't work for it, all I did was curb stomp an animal. Every night I would go to bed with that, and every day I couldn't enjoy the money because I would know I didn't deserve it.