Poll: Would you kick a puppy?
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Well, is it a case of "It's me or the puppy, only one of us can survive this", or is it just "Take that you adorable docile creature!". I mean, if it was a viscous attack-puppy, trying to maul my throat off, then I'd probably kick it (if I couldn't out-run it, or if there was a good reason not to run) and get $5 as an added bonus. But short of self-defense, no, I wouldn't kick a puppy (I'd be tempted to kick a cat, but that's because regardless of whether or not they're chasing you, they are evil, and all those pictures of cute cats[footnote]emphasis on cat, as opposed to kitten[/footnote] are not cute, they are evil, they've just tricked you all into thinking they're cute.
I think the curve starts changing when you start bringing in real money into the equation. 100; 1,000; 1,000,000...But it's these hamfisted hypotheticals that really ruin any serious conversation on ethics. Utilitarianism is such rubbish. Granted, you didn't invoke that in your answers, but that's what these hypotheticals aim to boil down to, no? At what point does your good outweigh another's good?
Well, there is no actual point to get at. The tension is always in flux, it's alive.
Anyway, if the poster, or anyone, has any real interest in the subject, get yourself to some Nietzsche, and then some Levinas...and chase that with some Bataille.
Well, there is no actual point to get at. The tension is always in flux, it's alive.
Anyway, if the poster, or anyone, has any real interest in the subject, get yourself to some Nietzsche, and then some Levinas...and chase that with some Bataille.
15$? Make it euros then you can call me David Mortari. Well actually scratch that, I wouldnt do it unless I was aaaabsolutely sure there was no recording devices within a mile radius. If there is, the amount of money offerred needs to have atleast 6 digits.
Why? Because these beastiality pedophiles always go on logic-free rage attacks on anyone that harms their potential lovers. 15 of any currency just isnt enough to have to deal with that crap.
Why? Because these beastiality pedophiles always go on logic-free rage attacks on anyone that harms their potential lovers. 15 of any currency just isnt enough to have to deal with that crap.
I would only kill for food or survival like if the puppy was trying to kill me, I would kick the hell out of it. I wouldn't kick it for a bit of money.
I have a feeling a technical discussion of ethics is not what most people came here for. Anyway, none of these answers commit you to any specific system of ethics, except perhaps the second option, which is fairly utilitarian in concept. If I were a Rawlsian, and thought that only rational beings could enter into the kind of contract necessary for morality, I could justify picking the first, third, or seventh option, for example. Though I am personally a utilitarian, so if you want a serious discussion of ethics, I can show you why utilitarianism isn't rubbish. Or try to, at any rate.Nifarious said:
Sure, but I don't see how that's relevant. Why is killing a wild animal for food more wrong than killing a domesticated animal bred for it, all else being equal?Dana22 said:
Hell no, and I would kick anyone who did kick the puppy, very hard. In the face. With boots on.
Animals feel pain too, and they are not as stupid as many people think they are, o kick it for $15 would just be insane and cruel.
Animals feel pain too, and they are not as stupid as many people think they are, o kick it for $15 would just be insane and cruel.
hypocritebrandon237 said:
you say they feel pain but then you would turn around kick a person that also feels pain
animals are nothing any human is far more beautiful than a stupid dog
and that person that would kick the dog would not be insane or cruel he'd be 15 dollars richer and possible have a small meal.
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