Even I, someone who HATES dogs (yes you heard me right) wouldn't kick one for any reason, unless it was like attacking me. I just wouldnt hurt an animal for no good reason.
Poll: Would you kick a puppy?
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Where's the "No, and I'll throttle anyone who does kick the puppy." option?
I don't like it when anyone hurts an animal without a true purpose.
Shooting a deer so you can eat? I'm fine with that.
Killing/hurting a dog/wolf/anything because it's trying to kill/hurt you? Also fine with that.
Harming an animal for the hell of it, or simply for money? I will think less of you as a person for all eternity (polite way of saying you're a cold hearted evil bastard).
As unsavoury as the thought of butchering pigs/cows/chickens/etc is, I recognize that without these practices, many of the general population wouldn't be able to survive, and I'll be honest, if I had to kill animals to get my own food, I'd probably become a vegetarian. So I'm fine with things like slaughterhouses, because without them I wouldn't be able to get the meat I love so much.
I apply these to every animal in existence. I don't think that certain cultures are weird, gross, or evil for eating cats or dogs. Just because I view them as pets doesn't mean the entire world does. Same goes for cows and pigs. However, there is one rule I always stand by. Harming animals for the sake of harming them is unnacceptable, if not just totally evil and sadistic (seriously, if you just attack an animal for no reason, and without provocation, there's something wrong with you).
I don't like it when anyone hurts an animal without a true purpose.
Shooting a deer so you can eat? I'm fine with that.
Killing/hurting a dog/wolf/anything because it's trying to kill/hurt you? Also fine with that.
Harming an animal for the hell of it, or simply for money? I will think less of you as a person for all eternity (polite way of saying you're a cold hearted evil bastard).
As unsavoury as the thought of butchering pigs/cows/chickens/etc is, I recognize that without these practices, many of the general population wouldn't be able to survive, and I'll be honest, if I had to kill animals to get my own food, I'd probably become a vegetarian. So I'm fine with things like slaughterhouses, because without them I wouldn't be able to get the meat I love so much.
I apply these to every animal in existence. I don't think that certain cultures are weird, gross, or evil for eating cats or dogs. Just because I view them as pets doesn't mean the entire world does. Same goes for cows and pigs. However, there is one rule I always stand by. Harming animals for the sake of harming them is unnacceptable, if not just totally evil and sadistic (seriously, if you just attack an animal for no reason, and without provocation, there's something wrong with you).
Today has been a terrible day, but that... That made me smile...Gladiateher said:
Yeah, if you could bring yourself to kick a puppy, fuck you. Dogs rock. If I saw someone kick a puppy, I would probably break half of their ribs before I came down off my righteous battle fury long enough to realize what I was doing...
...Wow OP, could you fail at comparison any harder?falconsgyre said:So there was a topic recently about eating intelligent pigs, and apparently people like the taste of bacon more than they like the idea of not eating rational creatures. This disturbed me a little bit, even if a lot of the replies were probably tongue in cheek.
In response, I'm trying to come up with a situation where people might have their intuitions go the other way about animals. Imagine a cute puppy. If you can't, here's some help.
Would you kick that puppy for $5?
Edit: Some people have asked how hard you have to kick the puppy. You have to kick it hard enough to hurt it significantly, but not hard enough to kill it. You might cause it severe or permanent injury; that uncertainty is part of the problem.
Double edit: Some people have responded that $5 is not a whole lot of money. Let's make it $15. Hopefully that would be enough to make it worth your time, without affecting the moral issue.
Food =/= Financial Gain
One is necessity, one is greed.
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5$ to kick a dog? fuck, i'd do it for free, hell, if you give me a choice between cats or dogs, i'd kick a cat over the dog always.
...you know we can survive without eating meat in modern society, right? It's not necessary to kill animals for food anymore.Trolldor said:
Edit: Is your username a hint that I shouldn't have responded to this?
Again, not saying you should kick a puppy. I was just interested in how many people would. I'd pick the unconditional no option myself.ProtonGuy said:
Well, since you think it's for science or just because it's an animal, how would you like it if I just "happened" to light a molotov and toss it into your house or your car? Heck, it's just an inanimate object, it's not like it can feel anything. Surely it could forgive you as it slowly melted back into a mass of its basic elements. Plus it was for science because everything is justifiable when you attach the word "Science" onto it.
In all seriousness though, why would you pay someone to abuse animals? And a baby dog at that? And if you say it's for science than you should be kicked (with double the ferocity). Science is no excuse for the cruel treatment of any animal. Shame on you sir.
In all seriousness though, why would you pay someone to abuse animals? And a baby dog at that? And if you say it's for science than you should be kicked (with double the ferocity). Science is no excuse for the cruel treatment of any animal. Shame on you sir.
You know... I don't exactly think that's what he meant. I'm PRETTY sure, and correct me if I'm wrong here, that ProtonGuy was actually crafting a sterling example of hyperbole, albeit without the self-aware disclaimer that usually comes with hyperbole these days (with the advent of Teh Intertubes, picking out linguistic devices has never been harder).Dulcinea said:
Sure, a guy who asks passers-by to kick a puppy for money has not the purest soul, and I might sock him one too, but I don't think most sane human beings would actually kill the dude.
Anyway, as for me...
Not for $5, not for $15, not for $1000.
My peace of mind is not for sale, no matter the price.
Besides, mo' money, mo' problems.
No. Five dollars? Please.
I demand exorbitant prices and plated armor for the puppy before any kicking would occur.
I demand exorbitant prices and plated armor for the puppy before any kicking would occur.
$15 to damage the life of a creature who has been domesticated into looking up to the human species as friends and protectors?
I'd kick the person telling me to kick it.
Fifteen-thousand or so instead, and I'd be willing to renegotiate. Besides, I like bovines more than puppies, sorry Fido.
I'd kick the person telling me to kick it.
Fifteen-thousand or so instead, and I'd be willing to renegotiate. Besides, I like bovines more than puppies, sorry Fido.
Never. Not just because i love animals, but because it's just wrong. I mean seriously what did the dog do to you? Did it bite your ass or something? I don't see any justification or sense in kicking a dog for no reason unless it is dangerous and a threat to you.
Hell No!!!!!!!! not for 15 dollars and not for any amount... and if you offered me more I'd say lemme see the money first then once you've flashed it I'd kick you in the balls grab the money kick you in the stomach, pick up the puppy and run like a bat out of hell away from you