I'm not. I would push it!GreeBo said:99.999% of the people here who said they would push it, are liarsJust sayin.
I'm guessing you never learned what an analogy is... [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy].trelloskilos said:Nobody has mentioned anything about shooting.
I'm guessing your problem is comprehension. It's an hypothetical case, unfeasible in real life but proposed for the cheer discussion value. The first post specifies pushing the button would kill someone. Doesn't matter how. You're the cause. You press it someone dies, doesn't matter how. It's not a substitute to someone who would already die, it's an addition. It's not a matter of opinion here, if your logic is "I'd press the button because whomever died would die anyways" then that logic is simply and objectively wrong. You can argue if it's an acceptable price for the 100$, but if you press the button you're the cause of someone's death.trelloskilos said:Ah..you've introduced a new variable.
People do die all the time...at a rate of 2 per second. These deaths are caused by anything, from still-births to old age, murder, genocide, accidents etc. One thing that is NOT mentioned in the initial argument is how these people will die. Will they be killed by an assasin? Will they simply stop breathing at the press of the button? Is it truly random or predestined?
Nobody has mentioned anything about shooting. If I was told that by pressing the button, an assasin would gun down an innocent somewhere in the world, that puts a slightly different slant on things...but that still would not be me pulling the trigger. It's the moral decision of the assassin if he wants to take part in this experiment, which isn't so much about human morality, but more about whether we are gullible or not.
As I said in the other bit of my post (the one that you didn't quote, or perhaps didn't bother reading), I do not believe that the button would kill anyone. Whether I pressed the button or not, people would still die. I wouldn't be adding to anything in the grand scheme of things. It's a question of whether you actually believe that the button would actually kill anyone, and I have stated without any question, that I don't!
You may disagree with my morals, but then again, I wouldn't send anyone off to war, or put anyone in a dangerous situation where their life was endangered. Politicians, Generals, and fanatics do it all the time! Yet for some reason, we accept their decisions...maybe even applaud them for making those decisions! All I would be doing by pressing the button would be to defy the scientist's criteria, and get some money for applying a bit of sense to the scientific setup.
IdealistCommi said:To you maybe. I am personally a religious man
That's not the question that is posed in this thread, though. You have added a lot of extra background there. The poll stated that there IS in fact such a button, and it poses the question "would you push it?" That's it. There may actually be an experiment like this, but so far as the OP is concerned, this is not it.trelloskilos said:Of course I'd push it!Damien the Pigeon said:Really? Would you really push it, most of the people in this thread? I know that a lot of you guys are joking, but I want to know how many people would really do it.
Think about it, it's $100 for a human life. Some paper in exchange for a person. There's no way.
Because it WON'T ACTUALLY KILL ANYONE!
It's a scientific experiment that tests morality. No-one gets killed at all, because the button is not actually attatched to a weird lottery/doomsday device.
If scientists were to conduct the experiment in real life, they'd need to factor in whether the subject is gullible enough to believe that the button will work. - It's like urban myths or superstition...believing something that someone else insists is the truth. Ever said "Candyman" in front of the mirror 5 times? I have, and guess what...nothing happens! Yet because of some tacky horror movie, kids were bricking themselves during halloween by stupid dares like that!
Perhaps if the scenario was slightly different....if it wasn't a button, but the trigger of a gun, and the person who was due to die was right in front of me & the gun, then that WOULD be a different matter, but as for the button iteself? Press press press, and claim the money off the idiot who thought I was gullible!!!