Poll: Would you take a pill that makes you bisexual?

[volvaga55]

Being Asexual, I'm good. I'm not interested in either gender, sexually. Quite like that as well. So no, I wouldn't take it and in fact would burn it. Because it's evil.

And before someone takes it wrong, as Escapist often does. The evil thing is a joke. A heavily sarcasm laden joke.

 

[Chairman Miaow]

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Gonna snip this down to save space.

Im getting kinda irritated because you keep trying to label Texas as a 'homophobic' state, and the reason I brought up the definition is people seem to mix up discrimination and homophobia. Not liking homosexuals and saying bad things about them is not homophobia. (not related to our main discussion).

Legislatively? Well some of that is subjective. Changing the definition of marriage to lets gays marry? Doesnt count as discriminatory. Denying them benefits? That is.

Non-discrimination? If you discriminate against someone in a legal fashion (employment, etc.), your going to get a visit from a government official. So thats wrong.

Gender? Subjective. Lets not get into this debate.

Youth? I have no idea what that section means, not gonna lie.

Parenting? It kinda seems like they cant even get their stats straight in this section, but thats the one I will agree with.

Though that website doesnt actually show equality based on states. It shows 'Equality of those who agree with Gay Marriage and Transexualism', so it is HIGHLY subjective and shows no regard to the other side of the debate.

Clearly we disagree on such a fundamental level that no accord can be reached but I am using homophobia correctly. As I posted before it can be defined as contempt towards homosexuals or acting upon that contempt. That is exactly what saying bad things about them is.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

Yeah sure. Why not. The reason I don't date men is because I feel no sexual attraction towards men. If I could have a pill that would make me feel sexual attraction to as many people as possible, why not? Broadens my horizon, gives me new opportunities.

Of course, such a pill doesn't exist and, probably, never will. Oh I suspect in the future, with our advances in neuroscience, we'll be able to alter people's sexuality (it's all the in brain, folks, it's all in the brain somewhere) but you wouldn't be able to do it by taking a pill. It would require invasive neurosurgery.

That pill could contain nanobots to do invasive neurosurgery. The future is a wonderful place!

Anyway, I'm just here to question the people saying that wanting to be Bi means that you are already Bi.
Could you explain that to me? I mean, if someone didn't like guys and then took this pill, viola, 50% of the population becomes available to have fun time with.
Why would that be a bad thing for non-bi people?

People have already compared it to taking a pill to like foods they don't already like, but others have said its different. Could somebody explain that too?

 

[Cupcakie]

Think about it. Johnny Depp. Johnny Depp. I'd eat that pill without hesitating.

 

[Not Matt]

Already am one so I guess I could try it. Just to try. It should reallyhave more iuses than turning you no though. It really isn't as interesting as it has been set up to be

 

[chinangel]

I have no need to. I'm bisexual already :3

 

[Angelowl]

Bisexuality as a real sexual alignment doesn't exist.

Every human being is biologically attracted only to males or females.

Bisexuality is being able to also go with the gender you don't really have biological attraction to, for the sake of some good sex (i.e. masturbating doesn't make you hand-sexual; going with a woman doesn't always imply you're really attracted to women). But every bisexual is either homosexual or heterosexual, even if they think it's ok to have sex with the other gender.

The majority of bisexuals are:

1) homosexuals in denial

2) teenagers exploring their strong newfound sexuality



People should say "I'm a heterosexual bisexual" or "I'm a homosexual bisexual".

God, you are wrong on every level. Now I can see what Zachary was talking about.

Your analogy to masturbation was just stupid. People aren't sexually attracted to their hands (well, MOST aren't), and they don't fantasise about their hands while they masturbate. They think about other sexual imagery, or watch porn - the hand just provides physical stimulus.

I'll give you an example.

I know a guy who is openly, declaredly homosexual.
Interestingly enough, he has a girlfriend. They get along very well, since they have the same hobbies, and love each other a lot.
He still is very, very, very gay. He draws (and really well) hot naked dudes constantly, and loves to talk about them. He also doesn't hide any of that to his girlfriend, who, I repeat, he utterly adores.

As much as I always found their relationship to be quite curious, they really do care about each other so much that many "normal" couples don't have the same level of affection.
Now, this guy - here's a homosexual bisexual. He is definitely homosexual; he is still bisexual because he has a girlfriend.

Back in high school, I had a good friend who, because of his strong personality, got a lot of girls to fall for him. He's also had a girlfriend for one year. I could tell there was something about him because he kept asking to borrow my yaoi comics (and he was awesome enough to openly ask that in front of everyone).
After we had gone to different universities, we lost contact. But I met him one day and he told me he stopped dating girls and started dating men. Always with a carefree attitude - I love it when sexuality is lived naturally.
This guy is a homosexual bisexual.


Being gay or straight doesn't prevent you to have sex with the gender you're not naturally attracted to. Anyone can enjoy sex with a gender that is not the gender of their preference, and the reason they wouldn't do that is only because of social pre-concepts.

This doesn't change the fact that EVERYONE is either attracted to males or to females.

The logic does not follow. That one is attracted to one gender says nothing about not being attracted to the other. I really do not see the point you are trying to make. What about me then? Been attracted to women since childhood, had a crush on my male best friend for four years. I continue to find both men and women attractive. I would very much like to have a girlfriend/wife, yet I am not sure that I would turn down a guy I cared for enough. In all honestly, I would gladly take one of each if I the offer came up. My actual preference varies over time according to interest and what is available, overall I prefer androgynous individuals.

In all honesty I do not give a damn about my partners' genetalia unless I hope for biological children together, otherwise it does not simply matter enough for me.

This whole "bisexuals can't possibly exist!"... I can't comprehend the argument, or rather I can't find the actual argument amongst all the text.

 

[Lightknight]

Had I been born as a gay man. Sure. The biggest downside of homosexuality is the drastically smaller market of individuals that even share your orientation, let alone ones that meet your personality needs and attraction requirements. This would instantly increase their mating pool by something like 48% of the overall population (however many times their original pool) and give them viable reproduction opportunities.

But as a heterosexual male I'd consider such an action to unnecessarily put limitations on my ability to successfull reproduce by finding a compatible mate to make such an action viable. A heterosexual becoming bisexual would only increase their possible market by what, just over 1% of the population? (Homosexuals s who are the same gender) That's before accounting for viable age range, singles, and all the things I mentioned before. Additionally, it'd encourage a desire for the 48% of the population who are off limits as they are neither gay nor bisexual. Such a frustrating thing would be mostly detraction.

As a married man, I of course find all of this quite meaningless regardless.

 

[Spearmaster]

Why take a pill? If you want to have sex with someone of the same sex then you are already Bi-sexual therefore anyone who takes the pill is already Bi-sexual before taking it. If you don't but want to want to have sex with someone of the same sex then why? There has to be some alternative reason to want to desire something you don't desire, or you are insane...

Uh no. That's as ridiculous as saying that if a pill makes asparagus taste good and I decide to take it then asparagus must have tasted good to me before. I'd hope people are able to think ahead and tell that while they might dislike something now if they take the pill they might enjoy it later and decide based off of this.

How about a pill that makes feces taste good then, or putrid animal carcass? Would you take a pill that makes you enjoy stabbing yourself in the face with a fork? How about a pill that makes it OK to kill people? you might like it later.

A chemically induced sexual experiment would require you already be curious unless the pill was forced on you.

 

[Angelowl]

The logic does not follow. That one is attracted to one gender says nothing about not being attracted to the other. I really do not see the point you are trying to make. What about me then? Been attracted to women since childhood, had a crush on my male best friend for four years. I continue to find both men and women attractive. I would very much like to have a girlfriend/wife, yet I am not sure that I would turn down a guy I cared for enough. In all honestly, I would gladly take one of each if I the offer came up. My actual preference varies over time according to interest and what is available, overall I prefer androgynous individuals.

In all honesty I do not give a damn about my partners' genetalia unless I hope for biological children together, otherwise it does not simply matter enough for me.

This whole "bisexuals can't possibly exist!"... I can't comprehend the argument, or rather I can't find the actual argument amongst all the text.

I'm no psychiatrist, and this is the internet, so I can't tell -you- what's going on with your feelings.

I can merely take wild guesses from one single forum comment you wrote, without knowing you and your life and how much truth you're telling and all that.


My wild guess is that you're probably still young: a teenager, or right past teenager years. Teenager years are the years were many, many, many teens end up getting a "crush" for their best friend of their same gender. Many wouldn't admit it, obviously, especially if they're straight males.
The crush you had for your best friend is not love in the directly sexual sense. It's just the strong bond that has formed between you two, that occasionally makes you think "I get along so well with him, I wish I could have sex with him too so I could have all I want in a relationship".

Unless you actively -fantasized- about having sex with your friend, and did it very often, and getting aroused.

In that case, he would no longer be your best friend anymore, because you'd be genuinely sexually attracted to him. And good luck being the best friend of someone you're horny for, for four years, with you being able to bear that pain and him not noticing anything at all.
So I don't think that's what happened, but again - I don't know a single thing about you. You could just be making all of this up, for all I know.


I'll just say one thing: some people think saying that bisexuality exists is being open minded. A person who is really open minded about sex knows that true bisexuality doesn't exist even when indulging in bisexuality or knowing bisexual people.

Hah. And the only one of my eight psychiatrists that have questioned my sexuality was the first one, and that was before I considered myself bisexual. That one was due to her being 100% certain that no homosexual women exists and I will not ever find a female partner.

Regarding my age, 24 years old. Been open to both genders for the last five years or so. And I have only become more open towards guys as the time went on, with my interest in women largely undiminished.

As for my best friend, he is a straight guy and I am a bisexual girl. And I most definitely have fantasized about him, a fair amount as I was living with him when I started to become comfortable with sex in general. He is quite aware, I have reminded him once or twice a year. As it stands we have become closer friends the last year due to me supporting him in his previous relationship and him supporting me for my anxiety issues. It is unlikely that the anything sexual will happen between us, but I do not see why that should ruin things. I have already have four years to sort through my feelings, I am ok with him getting it together with someone else as long as she is not obsessive like the last one.

What in the world is "true bisexuality?" Someone who is permanently a 50/50 split between the genders? It just does not work that way, if anything I have noticed that bisexuals often mention that the preferences differ over time. I have been sexually interested in girls, guys, ladyboys, FtM-transexuals, crossdressers, gender-queers and so on. The most likely option at the moment is either a ladyboy due to me being friends with a few or a guy due to them being a bit easier than the lesbians around here.

I have a stated interest in wanting a girlfriend, but one of the primary reasons for that is with myself being infertile insemination for my future partner is the only valid option for getting children as it is over here.

 

[Adeptus Aspartem]

I don't get the "I like my sexuality" comments.

As far as i understand his premise you would still like your sexuality afterwards, it just makes you attracted to both instead of one gender.
So since the premise states no negative side-effects from the pill the only rational action would be taking the pill.

It nearly doubles the amount of people to have a sexy-time with.

Not taking the pill under his premise would be irrational.

 

[Unsilenced]

Not wanting to bone has worked out well enough so far. I'm not sure why, even for someone who is straight or gay, finding more people sexually attractive would be a plus. For starters, it's not doubling the number of people you can have sex with if you're straight. Straight people of the same sex are still off-limits to you. You'll just find them attractive and have to know they'll never feel the same about you. You're also taking the risk of whatever happens if you become attracted to someone you already have a platonic relationship with. The pill carries the risk of losing friends while not gaining anything but wishful thinking and unfulfilled desires.


I don't think there's anything wrong with being bisexual, mind you, but it's absurd to think that magically changing your sexuality overnight would come without consequences.

I'll just say one thing: some people think saying that bisexuality exists is being open minded. A person who is really open minded about sex knows that true bisexuality doesn't exist even when indulging in bisexuality or knowing bisexual people.

"Being open minded is saying something doesn't exist while literally being that thing and acknowledging that you are."

I think 'open minded' may be an... overly civil term for what that is.

 

[Barbas]

Yes. It would challenge me and serve as an excellent learning opportunity. It would allow me to do things I could not do before, and the experience would further my understanding of those around me. Some may view it merely as a means to pleasure, but it can lead to nobler pursuits if you make it.

 

[Adeptus Aspartem]

Oh, no. The discussion I was talking about didn't happen here. It wasn't the one about a cure for homosexuality. It was on Youtube, I think. About Christian groups specifically.

Again, the argument seems nonsensical. If you have a want to like something, you must already, in some way, like it. You can't be interested in something if you don't like it. That you want to, shows that you on some level like it. If the question was "Would you take a pill that made you a neo-nazi?" The answer for almost everyone is of course, no. Why? Because they have no interest in being a neo-nazi. If they had the interest, there must already be a reason.

Hm, because being a neo-nazi is bad on rational level. Discriminating others based on X is immoral. There are rational reasons behind it not wanting to be a neo-nazi.

I don't like innards. I despise them. But i'd take a "mcguffin" that makes them taste great, because it would broaden my eating habits.
I don't think men are attractive. I find the thought of me havin' sex with a man repulsive. But i'd take a "mcguffin" that changes that, because afterwards i wouldn't have these thoughts i have currently and it increases my potential sexual partners.
I see no rational downside to having more sex.

For me it's sad to see, that people have so little fantasy to imagine such an easy situation. Though you're on the right track with your last sentence: "There must already be a reason". With the flaw that the only logical reason for you is, that someone has to like it already. That's not true, there are always rational benefits/impairments to situations.

 

[rokkolpo]

I would not.
Just because I'm too scared of how my life will change.

I can see the upside of having more partners available.
But still I wouldn't change myself.

 

[Zombie Sodomy]

I actually would like to be bisexual, but no I wouldn't take it. Sexual orientation seems superficial, but it's still a part of who I am.

 

[EtherealBeaver]

Fairly simple question here, in the hypothetical situation that someone came up with something like this. Explain your reasons.

Hell no, Im happy with who I am and it is a little saddening to think that someone would think its a good idea to take any kind of medication, fictional or not, to try and change your sexual orientation - regardless if it is Dr Kellogg trying to cure homosexuality or some pill trying to change whatever other sexuality is in play.