Poll: Your thoughts about the ME 3 ending extension.
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its where the rest of the reasonable non-angey people areLazyAza said:
remaining silent..patiently wating
unfortunatly the damange has already been done for some
EDIT: actually, its not un-reasonable to be angry.....more just the toxic/vocal hate and all that
I'm not an optimist. It's EA/Bioware after all. How much resources do you think they are gonna pull into a free DLC?
I just hope that this DLC comes with a holster function for PC at least. I don't know what were they thinking when they removed that from PC version. Jesus fuckin' Christ. And I'll be very disappointed if the DLC doesn't come with a patch that fixes graphical glitches like broken necks, holes on The Normandy, invisible characters etc. They also need to fix the quest tracking, add a FOV slider for PC and it would be nice if they added high res texture pack. Technical imperfections frustrate me more than anything.
I don't think the ending will actually fix anything. As long as the space kid is real in ME3 the game will suck, because it kills the entire plot of Mass Effect 1. If they go with the indoctrination theory (or anything else that makes the space kid go away) I will forgive their past mistakes.
So yeah, they have to fix a lot of things.
I just hope that this DLC comes with a holster function for PC at least. I don't know what were they thinking when they removed that from PC version. Jesus fuckin' Christ. And I'll be very disappointed if the DLC doesn't come with a patch that fixes graphical glitches like broken necks, holes on The Normandy, invisible characters etc. They also need to fix the quest tracking, add a FOV slider for PC and it would be nice if they added high res texture pack. Technical imperfections frustrate me more than anything.
I don't think the ending will actually fix anything. As long as the space kid is real in ME3 the game will suck, because it kills the entire plot of Mass Effect 1. If they go with the indoctrination theory (or anything else that makes the space kid go away) I will forgive their past mistakes.
So yeah, they have to fix a lot of things.
This about sums up my position. Enough time has passed, and I've played enough quality titles in the interim (thanks, Witcher 2!), that I'm no longer wetting my pants in desperation for closure to the Mass Effect trilogy. But it would be nice if the ending was salvaged to the point where I don't feel a slight curling of lip when I reminisce about the entire trilogy. Depending on how busy I am with games (and if GW2 pushes back into the fall, the answer is probably "not very busy") I'll probably do a full playthrough just to see if it actually provides any kind of real closure. They certainly had enough feedback from an unruly fanbase to know which notes they need to hit. They've got their "endings for dummies" book at hand. All they need to do now is walk a straight line and pick up the consolation prize for cleaning up their own mess.pure.Wasted said:
I suppose there's always a possibility Bioware is going to go all George Lucas on us and decide "fuck them if they don't like Jar Jar, he's hilarious" and force feed us even more Catalyst and Space Magic and gormless speculation, making the whole situation much, much worse. But I'm going to be optimistic and hope for the best.
I've heard this argument before, that the ending to ME 3 completely negates ME 1's story and I jjust don't buy it. I didn't like Space Timmy any more than anyone else, but he hardly ruined the entire series. Honestly, please explain to me how/why the little punk is so detrimental that he fucks up the first game of the series.Adam Jensen said:
Personally, I thought that the entire game was far, far weaker than the other two in terms of writing- just a linear sequence of soap opera and fan service. The DLC to extend the endings has already been established to not change anything, so I have to assume that they won't be fixing any of the horrendous plot holes.
In conclusion, I expect exactly more of what we already got. Soap opera, fan service, unnecessary MacGuffin. Got to figure they are not going to want to spend that much on a free DLC, so expect the extra content to be very brief (voice acting costs money, and we don't even have a silent protagonist).
In conclusion, I expect exactly more of what we already got. Soap opera, fan service, unnecessary MacGuffin. Got to figure they are not going to want to spend that much on a free DLC, so expect the extra content to be very brief (voice acting costs money, and we don't even have a silent protagonist).
Because why doesn't he simply activate the Citadel himself?RJ 17 said:
Because he changes the point of the game from:
"Unite everyone and stop the Reapers, regardless of the cost"
To:
"Resolve the metaphysical conflict between organics and synthetics and the fact that synthetics will probably destroy everything".
Which would be fine, except for a few points:
1) We just got the Geth and Quarians working together. EDI and Joker are working together fine. It turns out, that synthetics and organics work together fine. Hence, no need for him.
2) The entire plot is given to you in just 14 lines of dialog. The first goal had 2 games and 98% of the third devoted to "Survive together".
3) (And this is the most important one) Shepard cannot refuse, question, argue with, leave or flat out sit on his ass and do nothing. (S)He accepts this randomly and awkwardly introduced character from nowhere, accepts their logic (whether he is anti-Geth, pro-human, pro-life, self-sacrificing or selfish, Paragon or Renegade) and YOU, the player, have no choice in the matter. Even in ME2, you could pick whether you'd destroy the place, who would survive, who you trust, so on. ME3, you get none of this.
Even with all of the above, I have simply moved to "Don't care anymore". I'm far more concerned with the game industries reaction to it, particular certain people (cough, MovieBob, cough).
I honestly find it really patronising the way they tried to handle this.
"shitloads of people didn't like the ending? Eh, let's not say anything other than "we are listening" for ages and then when we do announce something it will just be us saying "You didn't like the ending, you must just not get it. Here, let us clear that up for you, you stupid, stupid retard."
Guess my position on that....
Captcha: Oh, lord.
"shitloads of people didn't like the ending? Eh, let's not say anything other than "we are listening" for ages and then when we do announce something it will just be us saying "You didn't like the ending, you must just not get it. Here, let us clear that up for you, you stupid, stupid retard."
Guess my position on that....
Captcha: Oh, lord.
Also this. I have said many times it was more soap opera than space opera.Paladin2905 said:
And two words for why the 3rd game should have gone back to the drawing board: Kai. Leng.
Fuck that guy, and whoever wrote him.
My problem was never with the content of the ending, it was with the fact the game got lazy and practically went "right, that's the end, it's all over now, you decide what happened." Which is a cop out.
If the extended cut gives us an ending, rather than a series of FMV's that barely constitute an ending when liberally interpreted, then I'll be happy.
It's still a disgrace they've had to release DLC to fix this though, purely because they couldn't be bothered with the work the first time around.
If the extended cut gives us an ending, rather than a series of FMV's that barely constitute an ending when liberally interpreted, then I'll be happy.
It's still a disgrace they've had to release DLC to fix this though, purely because they couldn't be bothered with the work the first time around.
What is this Mass Effect three that you speak of? I'm quite certain the only large game release that has happened recently is Diablo 3. According to my calender I'm still waiting for Bioware to finish developing the game and release it.
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Its good thats its happening, but it wont undo the number of plot holes that are already there.RJ 17 said:
I'm all out of faith; this is how I feel.
But I'm not going to entirely dismiss the possibility that they'll actually create something worthwhile for the extended cut. (Especially since newly recorded Garrus dialogue has been confirmed, among other things. Information has been sketchy and contradictory since the EC was first announced.)
So that's a no-vote for me.
But I'm not going to entirely dismiss the possibility that they'll actually create something worthwhile for the extended cut. (Especially since newly recorded Garrus dialogue has been confirmed, among other things. Information has been sketchy and contradictory since the EC was first announced.)
So that's a no-vote for me.
If what they're planning is a Dragon Age stlye "this is what happened to each person" bit then I don't see how it'll solve anything.
If what they're planning is a complete rewrite (which I don't think they are) then it has the potential to be great, but it'll still no doubt piss a bunch of people off.
So either way I don't see this going well - all I'm really hoping for is something that's marginally less bad than what we got in the first place.
If what they're planning is a complete rewrite (which I don't think they are) then it has the potential to be great, but it'll still no doubt piss a bunch of people off.
So either way I don't see this going well - all I'm really hoping for is something that's marginally less bad than what we got in the first place.
I stopped caring some weeks back. I found comfort in replaying some other games.
This got my attention though. Maybe the dlc will fix something. I don't know, I don't have my hopes up anymore. You broke my heart Bioware/EA!...err mainly Casey. (Can't tell if it's funny or pathetic that they actually succeeded in breaking many hearts.)JediMB said:
Your poll could use another option. I believe that there will still be problems with the ending no matter what they do, but at this stage any kind of improvement is welcome, especially if its free.RJ 17 said:
Beyond that I'm just really trying not to get too positive or negative about it, and reserve any real judgement until I can actually get to play it.
I'll wait and see. I'm way beyond the point of caring about this issue.
It's nice that the most crybabyish of the group got their bottle, but I'm fairly certain that it is not going to placate the most angry. Some have already stated that unless it's 100 percent what they wanted, they will demand it to be changed again. You know the early adopters of the, "Well, then it can't be art because of its mass consumption" argument.
It's nice that the most crybabyish of the group got their bottle, but I'm fairly certain that it is not going to placate the most angry. Some have already stated that unless it's 100 percent what they wanted, they will demand it to be changed again. You know the early adopters of the, "Well, then it can't be art because of its mass consumption" argument.