This is exactly the sort of thing I was talking about. First off, if you've never seen a Pollock in person, then you've never seen a Pollock. Period. What you see in a picture looks like it took a lot less time than the painting actually did. Secondly, there is the element of the emotional content which is considered as part of the work in the case of Pollock. A Pollock is valuable because it's an artifact of the way in which a man lived. Pollock wasn't pissing about, there's a real genuineness to his paintings which is different from that of the scheisters who've imitated his style over the years. It is impossible to create a Pollock without actually being Jackson Pollock.Syzygy23 said:fKpt._Rob said:As an artist I deal with tons of misconceptions about art. The big one that bothers me is when people say something like "I was just never talented enough to be an artist." No one was ever born with innate artistic talent. Becoming an artist means learning all the techniques for rendering an image, developing thematic and philosophical content, practicing a lot, and having the patience to work on a painting for the ridiculous amount of time that it takes to make a good painting. It's not talent, it's hard work, and it's frustrating to hear that get dismissed.
And while I don't work in pure abstraction myself, I do find it offensive when people outright dismiss artists like Pollock or Rothko because they don't understand enough about the art world to know how to look at them in the first place. Yes, there are some talentless hacks who have used abstraction to get away with being lazy, but that's no reason to dismiss an entire genre inhabited by some truly driven artists.
How can you praise artists for hard work and then get pissed that people don't like Pollack in the same post?
Pollack pissed on a canvas and sells it for a bajillion dollars. A smart man? Yes. Talented? Objectively no.
And not ALL artists have to use hard work to get where they are. Prodigies exist for painting/drawing just like with musical instruments, mathematics, etc.
Yeah, stuff like this. And I believe this going to be an ever growing problem as more and more people gain an understanding and/or are being shown of what is possible in our (wider) field - whether it's actually possible or CSI-possible - but still remain completely oblivious to 1) what it takes to get from the realm of possibilities to the actual thing and 2) what's more, what is just not possible.gyroscopeboy said:Yeah me too. Most of our clients are dumb asses, thanks to the advent of digital cameras, the pros are much harder to find these days.TopazFusion said:I've worked in photographic enhancement, and the number of times I've been presented with a shitty little thumbnail and requested to somehow turn it into a high quality, poster-sized image is beyond belief.
I'm sorry, this ain't CSI.
I had one woman who wanted a 15kb thumnail blown up to A2 haha.
Must be some stupid people. Even from the name it is quite obvious that you look at others building.TheRightToArmBears said:I'd hardly say I was an expert, but I'm doing a degree in building surveying. Some people seem to think that means 'I am learning to be a builder'.
B-but pterosaur is the order and pterodactyl a genus...bigfatcarp93 said:THEY ARE CALLED PTEROSAURS, NOT PTERODACTYLS!
This is for your pain.TopazFusion said:I've worked in photographic enhancement, and the number of times I've been presented with a shitty little thumbnail and requested to somehow turn it into a high quality, poster-sized image is beyond belief.
I'm sorry, this ain't CSI.
This, I always kept getting called an Architect student when I was doing surveying because that is the only non builder construction profession they know. Also the amount of people asking about planning permissions, right to light and all that other stuff they don't understand but heard on diy show on TV once. I had my neighbour ask whether the shed the guy who's garden backed onto her's was blocking her light and could she get the LA involved to stop it. It was a bloody shed! If the guy was building a giant black monolith at the garden she might have had a point, but a shed slightly taller than the garden fence? You've got to be kidding me.TheRightToArmBears said:I'd hardly say I was an expert, but I'm doing a degree in building surveying. Some people seem to think that means 'I am learning to be a builder'. That's about it really, but I do seem to be getting in far too many debates about music. And not just opinions stuff, things like who wrote Hurt and whether or not all metal is about satan.
Oh fuck, that's annoying. I certainly know it is. I was on a job interview (well, actually a mock one, but whatever) and the guy there saw I was into role playing on my CV and said he was used to seeing us when he walks his dog in the park...rium125 said:As a tabletop gamer, I'm often annoyed by people confusing my hobby with LARP, and confusing LARP with what they saw in the film 'Role Models' it's somewhat frustrating to keep having to explain that no, I don't spend my weekends running round the park in a cape waving a stick like an excitable 8-year old.
Ahem, it's actually called Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), even then, that's the old name and has been renamed to Dissociative Personality Disorder (DID).Harley Q said:EDIT-Pet Peeve, people confusing schizophrenia with split personality disorder.
Actually, to build on that, people should just stop using "hackers" when they mean "crackers". It just infuriates me - they are just giving some guys too much credit, as in "Hackers DDoSed a web page" ...yeah, "hackers". For the record, that's like saying "Heart surgeons stabbed somebody repeatedly with a knife" - you don't need any sort of expertise to do either task.Twilight_guy said:Computer Science. Every time someone in some medium is a "hacker" or "computer expert"
"Enhance that image! Yeah, we found the perp by finding his reflection on a spoon lying on the table 15 feet from the camera. His face was 4x4 pixels big, but we enhanced it and got a perfect high res pic of his face." -Almost every cop show with computers.TopazFusion said:I've worked in photographic enhancement, and the number of times I've been presented with a shitty little thumbnail and requested to somehow turn it into a high quality, poster-sized image is beyond belief.
I'm sorry, this ain't CSI.