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[Canadamus Prime]

GODMANIT!! I didn't say I hated them! I hate what they do, and consequently think less of them for doing it, but I don't hate them. Stop putting words in my mouth!!
Alright fine!! For fuck's sake, you want justification, I'll give you justification although it probably won't do any good!! Sex is supposed to be an act for creating life, contraceptives and all that other bullshit be damned, it's for creating new life; and as such should actually MEAN SOMETHING and should not be reduced to a mere hobby and/or profession. Satisfied??

Not going to lie, but when you look down on someone, you usually hate them. Just saying.

But you do bring up a valid point, I will give you that. While I do agree that sex is used for the continuation of the species, it is also a beautiful and wonderful experience.

It is their bodies, and they should be free to choose how and what the do with it.

But thank you for actually making your point.

You're welcome.

And yes it is their bodies and their choice, but that doesn't mean I have to approve of that choice or them for making that choice.

 

[Aardvaarkman]

Where did you get this idea from? Was there some peer-reviewed study of porn actors?

Interviews and the like. I've seen a few documentaries about/with them.

Not a very good source. You're talking about a small minority of participants in the porn industry, and a highly self-selected one at that. They don't represent the majority of the industry. How many of the hundreds of thousands of participants in the porn industry have ever appeared in a documentary or interview? Statistically, almost none of them. And those who do appear in them are generally from the better parts of the neighborhood, so to speak. If you think watching "a few documentaries" gives you an accurate picture, you are kidding yourself.

A significant number of women depicted in porn are not doing it out of choice.

More often than not, it is. And even it isn't, the real porn industry does do background checks, disease check, etc to make sure they have good people doing the porn.

What exactly is the "real porn industry"? Is porn made by others somehow not porn? Do you think the majority of outlets which deliver porn to the end user really care about where it came from, and how it was made?

There's a large international trade in in women used for sex. Women are kidnapped, locked in bedrooms and used as sex slaves.

Once again, this isn't a reflection on the porn industry. These don't even have to do with porn, as people get kidnapped and turned into soldiers. This doesn't reflect how the army works, just how corrupt and evil crime lords work. And men also get kidnapped and turned into sex slaves by the way.

Actually, it is. Sex slaves and people involved in the sex trade do end up in porn films. And dismissive attitudes about the negative aspects of the industry only fuel that. I very much doubt that the typical porn consumer is particularly aware or concerned about these practices, they just want to get their rocks off.

Your analogy doesn't do your argument much good, as the people who use people from the sex trade to make their pornography are doing the same thing as the corrupt and evil crime lords. They are selling people's misery for profit or power. Those armies made up of kidnapped people are not OK, just like porn made with abused and coerced people is not OK.

You enjoy porn, so you want to ignore any of the serious issues involved and pretend that it's all just fine.

That is not true, as every industry has some type of serious issue involved with it. I don't pretend to think everything is fine, some people do go into porn for money, either because they have no other options, or they'll make a quick buck for it. The point I made was, just like most jobs, people going into that field generally enjoy what they do.

Except you have no evidence of that. I highly doubt most people get into porn because they think it would be an enjoyable career. Most of them aren't being gang-banged because they enjoy it, they are doing it for the money. If you took away the money, would they be expressing their sexuality in the same way?

It's all free will, and everybody involved is happy and being treated properly. But that's not actually the case.

No it pretty much is the case.

Again, a stunning lack of evidence. You say "watch a documentary," but I think you mean a highly selective documentary that doesn't look at the negatives. How about watching a documentary about the victims of the sex industry? How about speaking to some of the people who work in the sex industry, other than a few glamorous US porn stars?

You claim there is some vast gulf between the sex industry in general and the "real" porn industry, but that's not the case. Your so-called "real" porn industry feeds off the overall sex industry, and also feeds off of both women and men's self-esteem and psychological issues. You're sticking your head in the sand if you think that isn't the case.

 

[awsome117]

Not a very good source. You're talking about a small minority of participants in the porn industry, and a highly self-selected one at that. They don't represent the majority of the industry.

I would love to you where you get your facts from. Also, how are documentaries, interviews, etc not a good source?

What exactly is the "real porn industry"? Is porn made by others somehow not porn?

Well the actual porn industry, sorry for the confusion. You of course can make your own porn, but that doesn't mean you're in the business of porn.

Actually, it is. Sex slaves and people involved in the sex trade do end up in porn films. And dismissive attitudes about the negative aspects of the industry only fuel that. I very much doubt that the typical porn consumer is particularly aware or concerned about these practices, they just want to get their rocks off.

Again, it isn't porn. As a person before pointed out, it is forced prostitution.

Your analogy doesn't do your argument much good, as the people who use people from the sex trade to make their pornography are doing the same thing as the corrupt and evil crime lords. They are selling people's misery for profit or power.

With the actual porn industry, they willing to into it, knowing full well that are using their bodies, and they are glad to. Again with the forced prostitution aspect, yes they'll more than likely make porn with the women. However, that is not porn's fault, that is the crime lord's fault.

Except you have no evidence of that.

But, I do. I gave you evidence, and you dismissed it saying "it doesn't count".

I highly doubt most people get into porn because they think it would be an enjoyable career. Most of them aren't being gang-banged because they enjoy it,

You would be surprised my friend lol. Besides, are you saying you can't enjoy sex, or sexually activities? Yes, there are some who do it for the money, most don't. Hell some people actually going into stripping because they actually enjoy and expressing their bodies. Is it really that hard to believe?

they are doing it for the money. If you took away the money, would they be expressing their sexuality in the same way?

Have sex for free? People do that every day, and do a lot of the things done in porn. Although I can't think of a lot of people who do the "sex train" thing, so you may have me at that one.

Again, a stunning lack of evidence. You say "watch a documentary," but I think you mean a highly selective documentary that doesn't look at the negatives.

As opposed to the giant amount of evidence you have given me? There are pros and cons to working or doing anything. Yes there are negatives to working in porn, and they do mention some negative aspects. However, the pros clearly outweigh the cons, as they still do porn.

How about watching a documentary about the victims of the sex industry? How about speaking to some of the people who work in the sex industry, other than a few glamorous US porn stars?

Then go out of the US, to places where prostitution is not only legal, but they receive plenty of benefits for the work they do. And they are proud of it. Again, forced prostitution is not porn. It may lead to porn, but it is a horrible act to physically take control of someone else body, and use it to your desire.

You claim there is some vast gulf between the sex industry in general and the "real" porn industry, but that's not the case.

No, there is a difference between the actual porn industry, and the "lower" ones you'll find in slums and places like that. In the slums, you'll be right most of the time, as they do a lot of pimping and forced sex in there. That does not represent the entirety of porn though.

Your so-called "real" porn industry feeds off the overall sex industry, and also feeds off of both women and men's self-esteem and psychological issues. You're sticking your head in the sand if you think that isn't the case.

Not really, as I'm talking about the porn industry, where you keep talking about forced prostitution. One is a career that tons of people do willingly, and the other is an illegal terrible act that should be put to an end.

 

[Supp]

Citing sources: Apparently not necessary when having debates on the internet. Where sources are just a hyperlink away.

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[ductape10]

I can already see Sony and Microsoft swinging their banhammers so fast that the air around them is igniting.

 

[Hipsy_Gypsy]

This is a great way to portray female gamers, 'cause we're all obviously dying to get our boobs out and lick the controller suggestively.

[/SARCASM]

No wonder some blokes don't take girls seriously.

Ugh, tell me about it. Sure, though, that's what these ones want, right? Fair enough on their side, then.


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[TheEldestScroll]

i agree! its just not in their genetic code.

 

[BlueMage]

I play nude, why shouldn't the ladies?

(Is your mind blown?)

 

[Iron Lightning]

Ahh, I see this silly article is one the front page now. Trying to drum up traffic much?

 

[cainx10a]

Pretty sure female gamers are waiting for Ron Jeremy to join the party [/le_joke]

 

[Genixma]

Cue Fox News who is going to be all over this like creeper on Diamond farmers.

 

[Zombie Izzard]

This idea just sounds...boring. I mean how long can someone look at a pair of boobs? I guess I'm too jaded but I'd need more to get the gears going. And if I want a lets play or help to get through a difficult part of a game I'll go to youtube or some other FREE gaming site.

 

[redeemer09]

what?! im the only one to say this? tits or gtfo......

 

[stefman]

Meh. The internet is already full of breasts and vaginas I can't touch.

And with a dual-monitor setup, if I want to cross nudity with gaming I can just watch porn on one screen and play on the other. Going by the preview image, that tattooed girl won't do much for me anyway. It's not my taste, nor are bottle blondes.

you do know the "three" blondes are all the same girl?

 

[Lunar Templar]

>.>

to quote 'master and commander'
"to wives and girlfriends .... may they never meet"

kinda feel its appropriate, since adding porn to games makes said games worse, pretty much with out exception

 

[WilliamRLBaker]

Now those are some ugly porn stars...

 

[orangeapples]

You want to know the funny part? even if it has lots of boobies, it will fail if they are bad at games. gamers will not stand for a person to be bad at games, even if the person playing is showing her boobs.

If those girls are good at games, then the other lets players on the internet are screwed...

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now that I've actually look at the provided image, those girls look like they're on the desperate end of the porn spectrum...

the idea of the gamer chick is hot. porn chicks playing video games, apparently not so much...

 

[Aardvaarkman]

Not a very good source. You're talking about a small minority of participants in the porn industry, and a highly self-selected one at that. They don't represent the majority of the industry.

I would love to you where you get your facts from. Also, how are documentaries, interviews, etc not a good source?

I already explained why. You don't think that the people in the interviews are not biased toward presenting their work in a positive light? Do you think they represent all people involved in porn? Use your brain. How does a few interviews prove that the majority of women in porn enjoy it, and are perfectly happy doing it?

What exactly is the "real porn industry"? Is porn made by others somehow not porn?

Well the actual porn industry, sorry for the confusion. You of course can make your own porn, but that doesn't mean you're in the business of porn.

Anybody producing porn for consumption is in the porn industry. You don't get to exclude the dodgy porn producers just because they are dodgy. They are in the business of producing porn, by suspect means. They are making money from it. thus, porn industry. And it's not just the producers, it's also the distributors. You don't think many of the websites that distribute porn don't get some of it from suspect sources?

Actually, it is. Sex slaves and people involved in the sex trade do end up in porn films. And dismissive attitudes about the negative aspects of the industry only fuel that. I very much doubt that the typical porn consumer is particularly aware or concerned about these practices, they just want to get their rocks off.

Again, it isn't porn. As a person before pointed out, it is forced prostitution.

Forced prostitution in the production of porn. And, by the way, porn is a form of prostitution. Where do you think most porn actors come from? Do you think that maybe a lot of them might come from a prostitution background? Or from the needs of financial circumstances? Or in your fantasy world do people just decide... "Hmmm.. what kind of career do I want? Doctor? Actor? Scientist? Nah, I'll become a porn star instead!"

Your analogy doesn't do your argument much good, as the people who use people from the sex trade to make their pornography are doing the same thing as the corrupt and evil crime lords. They are selling people's misery for profit or power.

With the actual porn industry, they willing to into it, knowing full well that are using their bodies, and they are glad to. Again with the forced prostitution aspect, yes they'll more than likely make porn with the women. However, that is not porn's fault, that is the crime lord's fault.

But he wouldn't do it if there weren't demand for it, and money to be made. Again, part of the porn industry.

I highly doubt most people get into porn because they think it would be an enjoyable career. Most of them aren't being gang-banged because they enjoy it,

You would be surprised my friend lol. Besides, are you saying you can't enjoy sex, or sexually activities? Yes, there are some who do it for the money, most don't. Hell some people actually going into stripping because they actually enjoy and expressing their bodies. Is it really that hard to believe?

This has got to be the biggest straw man you've been pushing in this thread. That if somehow one has problems with the porn industry, one must be sexually repressed. Nobody is making the argument that one can't enjoy sex.

As a matter of fact, I have had relationships with women who have been strippers, ex-prostitutes and, yes, been in porn. I'm no stranger to kinky sexual practices. But I'm also no stranger to the emotional damage those things can cause. And yes, some of them have said that some aspects are empowering or enjoyable. But overwhelmingly, the overall experience is negative.

they are doing it for the money. If you took away the money, would they be expressing their sexuality in the same way?

Have sex for free? People do that every day, and do a lot of the things done in porn. Although I can't think of a lot of people who do the "sex train" thing, so you may have me at that one.

By that, I mean, if one of these women is having sex recreationally, and not for work - how likely is it that they want to be called a little *****, strangled, and objectified? How likely is it that they are going to be faking orgasms, and saying stuff like "ooooh, baby, you're so big!" Sure, some will be into that - but not in the numbers represented by the porn industry. The majority of porn is presented for male fantasy, not female satisfaction.

I think your linking of recreational sex to porn is a bit off the mark, anyway. Porn is about making money, it's not really about sex, even though it does depict sex.

Again, a stunning lack of evidence. You say "watch a documentary," but I think you mean a highly selective documentary that doesn't look at the negatives.

As opposed to the giant amount of evidence you have given me? There are pros and cons to working or doing anything. Yes there are negatives to working in porn, and they do mention some negative aspects. However, the pros clearly outweigh the cons, as they still do porn.

You are the one making a very bold unsubstantiated claim, it's your job to prove that, not mine. All I said is that your claim that the porn industry is mostly all fun and games, it's all just about liberated sex, is rather questionable. In my experience it's a lot more complicated than that.

How about watching a documentary about the victims of the sex industry? How about speaking to some of the people who work in the sex industry, other than a few glamorous US porn stars?

Then go out of the US, to places where prostitution is not only legal, but they receive plenty of benefits for the work they do.

Actually I've lived in places like that, and it's not as rosy as you paint it. There is plenty of exploitation in legal brothels, and street-walking and illegal brothels still exist in those places. And it is certainly not true that all sex workers are "proud of it."

You claim there is some vast gulf between the sex industry in general and the "real" porn industry, but that's not the case.

No, there is a difference between the actual porn industry, and the "lower" ones you'll find in slums and places like that. In the slums, you'll be right most of the time, as they do a lot of pimping and forced sex in there. That does not represent the entirety of porn though.

I never said it represented the "entirety of porn" - the problem is that you seem to be pretending it doesn't exist. You are also off the mark when you say it only happens in "slums."

Your so-called "real" porn industry feeds off the overall sex industry, and also feeds off of both women and men's self-esteem and psychological issues. You're sticking your head in the sand if you think that isn't the case.

Not really, as I'm talking about the porn industry, where you keep talking about forced prostitution. One is a career that tons of people do willingly, and the other is an illegal terrible act that should be put to an end.

You keep missing the point. There is loads of forced prostitution in the porn industry. And the way mainstream porn frequently uses objectify images of abuse doesn't help that, or women in general. And the consumers of porn don't care where it comes from. Being liberated sexually is one thing - peddling images of violence and abuse is another. The way the "proper" porn industry generally depicts women just gives cover for people who commit abuse, and makes it seem normal.

You talk a lot about liberation and empowerment, but that's not how women are portrayed in most porn.

 

[damselgaming]

Wow, has it really come to this!?

I could get my boobs out when I play games, but why would I? It would be cold, and they would undoubtedly get in the way of everything.

Maybe they should actually combine penetrative sex with gaming? If they can still (and it pains me to even write this) "pwn some n00000bs" whilst hardcoring then fair play to them.

Do you know what- experiment time!
I am going to sit here and play Dead Island in just my pants, and when my boyfriends gets out of bed (eventually) i'll see if his reaction is:
a) Approving and sexually excited.
b) "What the hell are you doing?"
c) Not notice and just walk straight to the kitchen.