You can only get it for free until September 20 but you can keep the game if you get it in time.Owlslayer said:Thank you, Steam!
But i wonder, is this like a limited-time download?
To say that I envy these kids would be a really short-sighted response. That was the first moment of reaction to this. Immediately after was the feeling of optimism for what education looks like and how these kids were reacting to it. There must be something really great on the way and seeing Valve be a part of it just brings me great solace.hypovolemia said:For the people wondering about Portal's use in education:
Even if Portal was useless at improving spatial reasoning this would still be pretty much the best field trip ever.
I saw a documentary the other day about a paradigm shift in education, which aims to turn children into creators instead of consumers. For example, instead of memorizing data in history class they get to make videos about, say, the industrial revolution. So apparently a couple of years in the future school will be much less of a boring, soul-sucking torture.
That's odd, I'm certain the hours and hours I've spent replaying that game and in fact forcing my friend to play it during our revision period can only have had a negative effect on the outcome of my engineering course.Andy Chalk said:"Using interactive tools like the Portal series to draw them in makes physics, maths, logic, spatial reasoning, probability, and problem-solving interesting, cool and fun, which gets us one step closer to our goal-engaged, thoughtful kids."
Actually, in High School, we watched The Patriot in history class. Yes, it's not historically accurate, but it got kids interested and that's the most important thing. We also watched Glory and Troy despite how horribly inaccurate they were because, like I said, kids are far more interested when there's a movie involved, especially a violent one. Now if only could have been in the class that showed Alexander, I still haven't seen that...Dastardly said:Saying Portal has educational value in a science class is like saying The Patriot (Mel Gibson movie, American Revolution) has educational value in a history class. Yes, it presents some accurate information and establishes a context through narrative. Yes, if you really try, you can "learn" something from it...
Same here. Wuts goin on?josh797 said:so, i just checked steam store it says portal is still 20 bucks. not sure why
Hardware does degrade over time but when they do they just stop working or problems like artifacting start happening. performance degredation is caused by the OS/AV/RAM getting cluttered over time. A disk defrag though a good idea is far less needed than in win 95-98 days and performance gained from it today is almost negligable except in initial start times.Abandon4093 said:I think CYR just looks at the hardware you've got installed. So it's giving you an estimation based on the optimal efficiency of your hardware. Not what you're PC is actually running like. Things like processors and graphics cards degrade after heavy use. Not to mention harddrives getting full and causing all sorts of nasty things such as defragmentation and running out of scratch data. So although a brand spanking new PC with the same hardware as you might run it. Your PC may be running a little under what is required.Chrono212 said:Can You Run It always says I can but I always get frame-rate issues or something similar.
Don't quote me on that though, that's always just the impression I got.
Or in the case of mine, to download the appropriate mod and fly around in a TARDIS with optional dematerializing.Sovvolf said:Indeed it is, though back when I was at school (going back about 5 years ago now) we had The Sims and a Flight Simulator used as educational games... Don't know how Sims got passed with all the gracious sex involved but it was more about seeing how to cope with life out of school. Getting work, going to sleep on time for work, social life... Balancing dinner times and such. Costs of furniture, having a family... Stuff like that.Samwise137 said:Don't get me wrong, I'm all for games as educational tools but it's just VERY difficult to get administrators to go along with it.
Flight Sim was there to teach us how to fly....
Click the link ("Steam") at the end of the article, that got me to the right page.luckycharms8282 said:Same here. Wuts goin on?josh797 said:so, i just checked steam store it says portal is still 20 bucks. not sure why
Get excited in history class isn't the same as getting excited about learning history. That's the crucial difference people aren't seeing here. If I give a kid a candy bar for getting math problems right, that might make him more excited about being in math class... but it's no guarantee he's getting excited about math. Just candy.chaosyoshimage said:Actually, in High School, we watched The Patriot in history class. Yes, it's not historically accurate, but it got kids interested and that's the most important thing. We also watched Glory and Troy despite how horribly inaccurate they were because, like I said, kids are far more interested when there's a movie involved, especially a violent one. Now if only could have been in the class that showed Alexander, I still haven't seen that...Dastardly said:Saying Portal has educational value in a science class is like saying The Patriot (Mel Gibson movie, American Revolution) has educational value in a history class. Yes, it presents some accurate information and establishes a context through narrative. Yes, if you really try, you can "learn" something from it...
okay so here is how you could use this as an educational toolSamwise137 said:I guess a little of both. Another teacher I know from a nearby district suggested that if Valve really wanted to push this for education they could release a version specifically FOR education without the plot and occasional blood splatters (blood being the biggest hindrance for administrators; we have to keep things 'school appropriate'). Don't get me wrong, I'm all for games as educational tools but it's just VERY difficult to get administrators to go along with it.
Yeah, but people did get excited about learning history. It was like, the expanded universe to the movies or something, lol. I'm not trying to make an argument, just pointing out how it kind of worked for kids at my school.Dastardly said:Get excited in history class isn't the same as getting excited about learning history. That's the crucial difference people aren't seeing here. If I give a kid a candy bar for getting math problems right, that might make him more excited about being in math class... but it's no guarantee he's getting excited about math. Just candy.chaosyoshimage said:Actually, in High School, we watched The Patriot in history class. Yes, it's not historically accurate, but it got kids interested and that's the most important thing. We also watched Glory and Troy despite how horribly inaccurate they were because, like I said, kids are far more interested when there's a movie involved, especially a violent one. Now if only could have been in the class that showed Alexander, I still haven't seen that...Dastardly said:Saying Portal has educational value in a science class is like saying The Patriot (Mel Gibson movie, American Revolution) has educational value in a history class. Yes, it presents some accurate information and establishes a context through narrative. Yes, if you really try, you can "learn" something from it...
Learning can't just be a "possible side effect" of the education process.