Hey stew POSTAL 2 Dev here. Thanks for the review, quick note the game was developed by no more then 8 guys in a room with our own money. Wasn't exactly AAA development lol. We are still around today because of the dedication of our hardcore fanbase who, to the day, still are hard at work keepingn p2 alive. We are also coming our with a P2 addon called Paradose Lost for this XMAS.
Postal 2 - Ambitious Garbage
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I disagree with this review. First I really don't think it's fair to compare Far Cry to Postal 2 by any stretch, However I do think Postal 2 can hold it's own a true sand box game and a fun one at that.
I agree that the shooting mechanics aren't that great but for me the game truly shines with freedom and exploration.
+Level Design
The games level design is really quite interesting and very detailed. Every house can entered and every door can be opened. More often then not there is something to, but even if there isn't you can find something to do like setting stuff on fire.
+interactivity
I'm really surprised at how interactive this game was. It reacts to a lot of different things you can do. The police actually taking you to jail if you allow them is just plain cool. Anther thing you can do is pee on a doughnut can then let a cop eat it from which he will then vomit. It's small but it's another little detail they put it.
The AI is also worth mention it's actually quite smart and has a habit of following you and reaching you even you get to a really hard to reach place.
+True sandbox freedom
I really can't emphasise enough just how much freedom this game gives you. You can rob a bank, stop a bank robbery or avoid it all together.
From the get go the games pretty much lets you go anywhere and do any thing. The freedom don't' just apply to the who you can/can't kill.
The physics also plays a role. You can cut off a persons head with a shovel set it on fire and then run around and kick it like a flaming soccer ball setting other things on fire. It's oddly satisfying and I recommend everyone try it.
A brief note on the weapons, the shovel and shotgun are really satisfying to use.
So that's my brief review of Postal 2 and you might not agree, but I hope this opinion was interesting. I really do think with the right mind set this game can be enjoyed.
I agree that the shooting mechanics aren't that great but for me the game truly shines with freedom and exploration.
+Level Design
The games level design is really quite interesting and very detailed. Every house can entered and every door can be opened. More often then not there is something to, but even if there isn't you can find something to do like setting stuff on fire.
+interactivity
I'm really surprised at how interactive this game was. It reacts to a lot of different things you can do. The police actually taking you to jail if you allow them is just plain cool. Anther thing you can do is pee on a doughnut can then let a cop eat it from which he will then vomit. It's small but it's another little detail they put it.
The AI is also worth mention it's actually quite smart and has a habit of following you and reaching you even you get to a really hard to reach place.
+True sandbox freedom
I really can't emphasise enough just how much freedom this game gives you. You can rob a bank, stop a bank robbery or avoid it all together.
From the get go the games pretty much lets you go anywhere and do any thing. The freedom don't' just apply to the who you can/can't kill.
The physics also plays a role. You can cut off a persons head with a shovel set it on fire and then run around and kick it like a flaming soccer ball setting other things on fire. It's oddly satisfying and I recommend everyone try it.
A brief note on the weapons, the shovel and shotgun are really satisfying to use.
So that's my brief review of Postal 2 and you might not agree, but I hope this opinion was interesting. I really do think with the right mind set this game can be enjoyed.
Will that be coming to GOG? DRM Free for the win.Mike Jaret-Schachter said:
Appreciate the review. it's not quite damning enough to put on our next compilation box (you really can't beat Computer Gaming World's 'Until someone boxes up syphilis... POSTAL 2 is the worst product ever' 0/10' that is proudly displayed on our fudge pack) but a good read none the less. Ambitious Garbage will no doubt be on the side of a garbage truck in a future game in honor of this review though.
For what it's worth, the Steam version is also DRM free, although it uses many Steamwork features (Achievements, cloud saving, workshop, trading cards) it's also totally portable and does not require Steam running to play.
Oh, and aforementioned Steam version with all the updates is currently on sale but not for much longer
Thanks for the support to all that posted in this thread! One only has to look at the overwhelming amount of positive reviews on Steam compared to the few negative to see many people get much enjoyment from P2.
Yeah it will. As will the many free updates that we've added to Steam since its release (other than workshop, but workshop mods will be able to be manually installed into the GoG version).Magmarock said:
For what it's worth, the Steam version is also DRM free, although it uses many Steamwork features (Achievements, cloud saving, workshop, trading cards) it's also totally portable and does not require Steam running to play.
Oh, and aforementioned Steam version with all the updates is currently on sale but not for much longer
Thanks for the support to all that posted in this thread! One only has to look at the overwhelming amount of positive reviews on Steam compared to the few negative to see many people get much enjoyment from P2.
I didn't encounter this during my playthrough (which is on me) and I'll have to make sure to add some mention of it. Thanks for the heads up.JMac85 said:
this game is just full of black humor. obviously not everyone likes it. i personally have a blast with it that i bought my self many years ago the fudge pack over ebay that contains all games, including 2 fan made mods. the weekend part was not so good since it was really linear and you pretty much had no freedom anymore. but postal 2 it self is awesome. yeah, the shooting mechanic is not good but hell, with cheats on, it makes the game even more hilarious. shooting cats from some of your weapons instead of bullets? priceless.
I read the article's name and thought that it said Portal 2 and i got extremely confused as i read the beginning of the article, then i remembered that *that* game exists.
Postal 2 was a fun game. Not great, but the novelty still stands over a decade later. It's biggest problem was made in 2003 on a thin budget.
'REMOVE PINEAL GLAND TAKE OVER WORLD' on the posters in the mental institution. The background humor was better then the obvious jokes (Mostly rednecks, fatness, ugliness, over the top violence).
Try combining cat with your shotgun!
'REMOVE PINEAL GLAND TAKE OVER WORLD' on the posters in the mental institution. The background humor was better then the obvious jokes (Mostly rednecks, fatness, ugliness, over the top violence).
Try combining cat with your shotgun!
We've always known it's got a big following, but the positive to negative Steam review ratio surprised even us.Fancy Pants said:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/223470/reviews/
The one part I agree with him is that the game at times does force you into a fight, whether you want it or not. Otherwise, the game does a good job in having it so that the player can choose to live life (mostly) normally, or become Death the Destroyer of Worlds. Although the game is full of over the top stereotypes of leftists and Middle-Easterners/South Asians, I think that those stereotypes are intentional. Next to that, there are right-wing stereotypes put in too. The protagonist is partially a dark parody of an ambiguously far right-wing nut, as well as a dark parody of the first person game hero. While past first person heroes fought against Nazis or Demons, this shooter hero is fighting against the general public. Only this context, the general public of this desert town are all mentally ill in someway, and there's usually the sense that something sinister lurks underneath the cartoonishly crude facade. It takes elements from GTA and the Blood series, combined with Unreal's technology, with a little bit of Morrowind's aspects, and nearly succeeds. The weapons just needed to be more powerful, and the options for the player needed to be increased. Like full blown Deus Ex 1 or Morrowind increased. That's what Postal 3 should have been. Running with Scissors had the Source engine and Postal 2 as a template: how could they screw it up?josemlopes said:
I do concur that Stew Shearer's review of Duke 3D was narrow minded. (Including his review of SHOGO). He writes the game off for the wrong reasons, like sexism or labyrinthine level design. He seemed unaware of the influences of Aliens and Evil Dead, and it seemed that he wanted the game to be even more than what it was. He only listed the Duke Burger level as a example of how much more he wanted it to be, and that was only a level from the expansion (I myself wanted the Plutonium Pak to be more than it was even back when it was out, but that's beside the point). Political correctness only seems to be part of his complaint, and his main complaint is that he wanted them to be even more than what he played. I think he perhaps misunderstands the context from those games came from, but I don't he's too far gone. Shearer has good taste in games (like Sword of the Samurai, Ultima Underworld, etc.), and I like his writing style. He's someone I'd like to debate if I ever had the opportunity to.