Precursor Games Founder Arrested For Child Porn

[chikusho]

There is not accidental, "I did a single picture of CP and got caught" incidents in these cases.
If that were true, then I'm pretty sure 80% of users on websites like Furaffinity would find themselves in jail in a heartbeat.

Look at what the man is being accused of. Mainly viewing and downloading child porn. At that point, the man is guilty. That's it.

Why?

Because when they do investigations like this, they watch you. How long? Nobody knows. It could be months, or years. However they monitor your activity, and they compile data and evidence against you. Enough of it that they have a case against you.
Chance are, when they are knocking on your door telling you your under arrest for child porn, you can bet your ass you're already guilty. You are simply wasting your breath trying to defend yourself.
They just need the courts to make it official.

If people under the age of 18 take pictures of themselves naked, it's considered a breach of child pornography laws.
If he had a single picture of a 17 year old or childlike cartoon featuring nudity in some folder you could potentially reach from an internet location, it could possibly make him guilty of the charges leveled against him.
Technically, if I send you an unlabeled email containing one of these images, or send it to you in a text, you can be charged with storing child pornography. Possibly even accessing, because rhyme and reason goes out the window in so many of these cases.

Sure, they watch some people for a long time. However, some people they maybe watch for one second, if they can prove they have the "one image of CP" on any kind of storage.

 

[ToastiestZombie]

Well if they did a warranted search on him then it's probably very bad. Hundreds of people probably look at CP every-day, whether intentionally or accidentally; but only a quarter of them will get arrested because they're either repeat offenders or distributors, which seems like the person in this article. I don't have any sympathy for a man who looks at CP intentionally, I accidentally saw an image once (on 4chan, reported immediately and hid the thread and got the fuck outta there) and it was absolutely disgusting, so if that's the sort of thing he's been watching and saving onto his computer he deserves anything that comes to him.

 

[Eleuthera]

On its official forum, Precursor CEO Paul Caporicci [a href=http://www.precursorgames.com/forums/index.php?threads/oh-hi-guys.2115/#post-24825]commented[/a]: "Having just learned of these disturbing charges today and based on the serious nature of them, Ken McCulloch is no longer affiliated in any way with Precursor Games." His employee profile has since been pulled from the website.

This is what surprises me the most actually.

Last January a guy working for the same company as I was arrested for child abuse, he was accused of abusing several girls aged between 8 and 13 over the course of 10+ years, he confessed to 2 of them.
He was convicted but went on to appeal the verdict, so the company still wasn't allowed to fire him. We went bankrupt in May, he was still on the payroll then.

The point being you can't fire someone until the final verdict has been pronounced here. Let alone fire him on the basis of a suspicion.

 

[Dragonbums]

There is not accidental, "I did a single picture of CP and got caught" incidents in these cases.
If that were true, then I'm pretty sure 80% of users on websites like Furaffinity would find themselves in jail in a heartbeat.

Look at what the man is being accused of. Mainly viewing and downloading child porn. At that point, the man is guilty. That's it.

Why?

Because when they do investigations like this, they watch you. How long? Nobody knows. It could be months, or years. However they monitor your activity, and they compile data and evidence against you. Enough of it that they have a case against you.
Chance are, when they are knocking on your door telling you your under arrest for child porn, you can bet your ass you're already guilty. You are simply wasting your breath trying to defend yourself.
They just need the courts to make it official.

If people under the age of 18 take pictures of themselves naked, it's considered a breach of child pornography laws.
If he had a single picture of a 17 year old or childlike cartoon featuring nudity in some folder you could potentially reach from an internet location, it could possibly make him guilty of the charges leveled against him.
Technically, if I send you an unlabeled email containing one of these images, or send it to you in a text, you can be charged with storing child pornography. Possibly even accessing, because rhyme and reason goes out the window in so many of these cases.

Sure, they watch some people for a long time. However, some people they maybe watch for one second, if they can prove they have the "one image of CP" on any kind of storage.

In those cases it usually involves someone reporting them to the police, or it being spread around so much that the police catch wind of it and get the person in question arrested. However if the police are investigating you in private, without any tip off from a third party source, they keep tabs on you until they know without a doubt that you are into CP.

 

[chikusho]

In those cases it usually involves someone reporting them to the police, or it being spread around so much that the police catch wind of it and get the person in question arrested. However if the police are investigating you in private, without any tip off from a third party source, they keep tabs on you until they know without a doubt that you are into CP.

No, they check you out until they suspect they can arrest you on any kind of CP related charge.
Having a single record of a single image that could possibly be considered evidence based on previous interpretations of the law (such as a nude drawing of a childlike person).

 

[RJ 17]

Awesome, trial by media again.

"Charged" doesn't mean "convicted" guys. But hey, who cares if someone is innocent or not? Just get accused of rape or child pornography possession and you might as well kiss your life goodbye.

Ummmmm...I don't think they would have arrested him after a warranted search of his house if they didn't find anything to arrest him for...

Edit: As for everyone saying "It might have been lolicon hentai which isn't real child porn, it's just drawings". Be that as it may, in the eyes of the law (at least here in the US) some states don't differentiate. Same thing with drawings of other illegal sexual stuff such as bestiality. Doesn't matter what YOUR morals say what counts and what doesn't, if lolicon is deemed illegal...then it's illegal. Kinda like how you can say there's nothing wrong with smoking pot all day long, but in the eyes of most states: it's still illegal.

That said, I don't know Canadian law, I don't know if lolicon is considered illegal, just saying that your morals and beliefs don't matter in terms of the law: illegal stuff is illegal.

Edit Edit: Acquittal by Forum-Goer Excuse (it was probably lolicon, so it's not that big of a deal) is just as foolish as Trial by Media. You don't know that it was only lolicon, just as the media doesn't know that it was true child porn. How about we all shut up and wait for the facts to come out?

 

[Abomination]

Awesome, trial by media again.

"Charged" doesn't mean "convicted" guys. But hey, who cares if someone is innocent or not? Just get accused of rape or child pornography possession and you might as well kiss your life goodbye.

Ummmmm...I don't think they would have arrested him after a warranted search of his house if they didn't find anything to arrest him for...

Edit: As for everyone saying "It might have been lolicon hentai which isn't real child porn, it's just drawings". Be that as it may, in the eyes of the law (at least here in the US) some states don't differentiate. Same thing with drawings of other illegal sexual stuff such as bestiality. Doesn't matter what YOUR morals say what counts and what doesn't, if lolicon is deemed illegal...then it's illegal. Kinda like how you can say there's nothing wrong with smoking pot all day long, but in the eyes of most states: it's still illegal.

That said, I don't know Canadian law, I don't know if lolicon is considered illegal, just saying that your morals and beliefs don't matter in terms of the law: illegal stuff is illegal.

Edit Edit: Acquittal by Forum-Goer Excuse (it was probably lolicon, so it's not that big of a deal) is just as foolish as Trial by Media. You don't know that it was only lolicon, just as the media doesn't know that it was true child porn. How about we all shut up and wait for the facts to come out?

I'm not saying it's lolicon or not, I'm just saying that the whole situation shouldn't have been brought to light until a verdict is reached.

The very idea that arrest = guilty spits in the very face of due process.

Arrests are carried out due to suspicion, not guilt.

 

[RJ 17]

Snip.

Arrests are made when evidence is found to support the suspicion. Beyond that, most companies have a "Moral Clause" that must be adhered to, stating that if you're even arrested you can be terminated.

Will it suck hard-core if it turns out this was some kind of misunderstanding that cost this guy his job and reputation? Definitely. Just saying that after they searched his place, there wouldn't be a reason to arrest him if they didn't find what the warrant said they were searching for.

Edit Edit: Acquittal by Forum-Goer Excuse (it was probably lolicon, so it's not that big of a deal) is just as foolish as Trial by Media. You don't know that it was only lolicon, just as the media doesn't know that it was true child porn. How about we all shut up and wait for the facts to come out?

Funny, Aquittal by forum-goer has never ruined someones life before as far as I have seen. if I am wrong please correct me on that point. If not I would hardly call it 'just as foolish' Unless you are just looking for a reason that the mods will let you insult fellow forum goers.

True, your life can't be ruined by Acquittal by Forum-Goer, but that's not the point I was trying to make by saying "it's just as foolish". I'm saying that we here on the forum don't have the details anymore than the media does at this point, so NO ONE - not us, nor the media - should be jumping to conclusions. Could it turn out that this guy just had some lolicon drawings on his computer? Sure. Though as I said in my first response, that might not matter if the law still says that's illegal. But besides that, it could just as easily turn out that he has child-rape porn all over his computer and he truly is a sick, twisted individual.

The facts aren't known yet, so going back to the statement that you quoted: "How about we all shut up and wait for the facts to come out?"

 

[Absolutionis]

apparently its fashionable and cool to find a way to defend pedophiles these days

Yeah, really.

The guy gets accused of child pornography, and the first conversation here begins finding excuses to his behavior (lolicon, really?), or blaming "trial by media".

I wonder where all the white knights are hiding that adamantly talk about feminism all the time so girls will pay attention to them.

 

[Devil's Due]

apparently its fashionable and cool to find a way to defend pedophiles these days

Yeah, really.

The guy gets accused of child pornography, and the first conversation here begins finding excuses to his behavior (lolicon, really?), or blaming "trial by media".

I wonder where all the white knights are hiding that adamantly talk about feminism all the time so girls will pay attention to them.

You just said he was accused of a crime.

And you're calling names to anyone who doesn't want to immediately string him up? Way to be progressive! After all, immediately someone is accused of a crime they should be given the harshest punishment for that crime possible! Screw trials, evidence, etc!

As for the company: How about we wait for the verdict of the crime before ruining a persons life and firing him? Just a thought!

 

[Abomination]

It wasn't kept secret because that's not how our society works. Our justice system is open, freely viewable by the public, in order to maintain a certain standard for the police and the courts set by the public. If these proceedings were secret, there would be no accountability.

And of course being arrested doesn't mean you're guilty, but police aren't even allowed to arrest someone unless they have a lot of damn good evidence. Because if someone is arrested on false charges, then everyone looks bad. The police look bad for making a bad call, the prosecutors look bad for backing the play, and the judges look bad for issuing the warrant. Obviously mistakes happen, and bad police work exists, but nine times out of ten, if someone is arrested, it's not unless the police are certain they have something.

Society is supposed to work on the basis of innocent until proven guilty. But, as usual, when rape or pedophilia are involved we seem to forget that particular concept in exchange for pitchforks and torches.

This individual should have been given name suppression - all suspects should have name suppression.

Edit: I also find it somewhat ironic that some people who are all keen to string this individual up find serious issue with the recent telecommunication privacy debacle going on in the United States.

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

apparently its fashionable and cool to find a way to defend pedophiles these days

Better than throwing them under the bus before they are convicted.

Also being a pedophile isnt a crime, abusing a child is a crime, pedophelia is a sexual orientation no different than being straight, gay, or bisexual.

Most pedophiles are able to control their urges and are never a harm to anyone, some cant though and they are called child abusers.

Edit: As for the OT, it wouldnt surprise me if this was some group of retards arresting him over lolicon or some shit.

While none of us know what's what and what will eventually stick, I'd like to chime in here real quick.

I find myself unwilling to accept that pedophilia is 'a sexual orientation no different than' any other. Whatever happens between consenting adults is one thing. When someone faps over images, thoughts, souvenirs of or with actual underage children present, party's pretty much over and I am absolutely unable to even want to generate any compassion or sympathy.

 

[Abomination]

Look at it this way; if they police did screw up, he'd be a victim. His story of how his career and reputation could spread, making him an icon for police incompetence. Society would hold them accountable and the people responsible would be punished for it. He could sue for damages, and continue his life. None of that happens if his story and identity are suppressed. That is why it's all public. The police are on trial just as much as the suspect.

So why not just suppress the name so nobody gets hurt?

Why do we always have to have somebody suffer?

Edit: ESPECIALLY when we're dealing with a crime that might actually not even have a victim.