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B-Cell said:
thats only one review.
...unsurprisingly, I knew that'd be your exact response. If you wish to amend your thread title, by all means go ahead - if you actually meant 'Prey is getting excellent reviews from certain review bodies I approve of'.

beside i trust worthy youtubers than professional critics. they are used to of playing COD like FPS where you have explosion ever 3 second, scripted, regen health and cover system.
...please don't try to generalise about a review source you likely know nothing of. GC at Metro have been reviewing all sorts of games (as well as doing some of best interviews in the biz) over decades (in terms of lineage they technically go back to the mid '90's on Teletext, when it was known as Digitiser, though obviously it's now a completely different team).

YT has some excellent content creators, sure (George Weidman [https://www.youtube.com/user/bunnyhopshow] for one, Joseph Anderson [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyhnYIvIKK_--PiJXCMKxQQ] for another), but it also has a large number of brainless, ignorant idiots 'reviewing' games, so I say go the Mulder route; Trust No One But Look At Multiple Sources And Gather A Variety Of Anecdotal Player Experience And Then Maybe Watch Some Of An LP And Then Ideally Maybe Try The Game Out Yourself. Pretty sure that was an X-Files line...

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/05/09/prey-review/

theres RPS review. who dont give scores but they praise it. and its PC focus site.

point is. except few negative review who dislike it because its too deep for them. its been getting positive reviews.

It only has a 70% metacritic. On Gamespot you promised repeatedly it would be best fps since Halflife 2.


I'm disappointed, it's no System shock.
 

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MrBoBo said:
B-Cell said:
Darth Rosenberg said:
B-Cell said:
thats only one review.
...unsurprisingly, I knew that'd be your exact response. If you wish to amend your thread title, by all means go ahead - if you actually meant 'Prey is getting excellent reviews from certain review bodies I approve of'.

beside i trust worthy youtubers than professional critics. they are used to of playing COD like FPS where you have explosion ever 3 second, scripted, regen health and cover system.
...please don't try to generalise about a review source you likely know nothing of. GC at Metro have been reviewing all sorts of games (as well as doing some of best interviews in the biz) over decades (in terms of lineage they technically go back to the mid '90's on Teletext, when it was known as Digitiser, though obviously it's now a completely different team).

YT has some excellent content creators, sure (George Weidman [https://www.youtube.com/user/bunnyhopshow] for one, Joseph Anderson [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyhnYIvIKK_--PiJXCMKxQQ] for another), but it also has a large number of brainless, ignorant idiots 'reviewing' games, so I say go the Mulder route; Trust No One But Look At Multiple Sources And Gather A Variety Of Anecdotal Player Experience And Then Maybe Watch Some Of An LP And Then Ideally Maybe Try The Game Out Yourself. Pretty sure that was an X-Files line...

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/05/09/prey-review/

theres RPS review. who dont give scores but they praise it. and its PC focus site.

point is. except few negative review who dislike it because its too deep for them. its been getting positive reviews.

It only has a 70% metacritic. On Gamespot you promised repeatedly it would be best fps since Halflife 2.


I'm disappointed, it's no System shock.
Game is not fully reviewed yet.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/prey

its 85 currently and yes it is modern day system shock. but more action oriented.
 

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Prey is not the second coming of video-game Jesus. It's not even good enough to be an FPS masterpiece as the 74 on metacritic will attest too. Prey is just a decent game, nothing more, nothing less. And like most decent games, people will either love it (like B-Cell, though im not sure he has played it yet) or hate it (like my mentally disturbed self)
Nah, there's more than just those two: I'm spectacularly indifferent towards it. ;-) From what I've seen I'm about as indifferent to it as the creators were to any visual/artistic design worth a damn.

Charcharo said:
Consoles objectively have no pros at all.
Cost more, offer less, dangerous to gaming's long term future.

Those are the facts.
...no they're not (that's a perception of yours), but this isn't the thread for that.
 

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Charcharo said:
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Gaming is quite cheap if you play on a console.
also on PC. Don't hate PC just because of the PCMR people. makes no real sense.
I didn't hate on PC. I just prefer consoles because their pros are more important to me than the pros of PC gaming. There's quite a few people here that think console gaming has no pros at all.
Consoles objectively have no pros at all.
Cost more, offer less, dangerous to gaming's long term future.

Those are the facts.

Least I can put in a game and just start it up. Unlike on PC where I have to learn how to code just to start up a bunch of games.
 

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Charcharo said:
RaikuFA said:
Charcharo said:
Phoenixmgs said:
Bombiz said:
Phoenixmgs said:
Gaming is quite cheap if you play on a console.
also on PC. Don't hate PC just because of the PCMR people. makes no real sense.
I didn't hate on PC. I just prefer consoles because their pros are more important to me than the pros of PC gaming. There's quite a few people here that think console gaming has no pros at all.
Consoles objectively have no pros at all.
Cost more, offer less, dangerous to gaming's long term future.

Those are the facts.

Least I can put in a game and just start it up. Unlike on PC where I have to learn how to code just to start up a bunch of games.
This is interesting. I, as a poor Eastern European have been on PC for 20 years. Even when I didnt know English I had little issues getting a game to work.

You see, you have an installer. Press install. Yes, yes, yes several times. Then an exe appears on scree and I enter the game. Even my 6 year old self that still thought my monitor is the Computer knew that if a new game is new, I probably had to just set options to low.

And that is why I didnt learn programming. If only I knew programming was the OTHER way to PC game, I'd not have had to study C and SQL just to get a job to live in poor PC Gaming Eastern Europe. Silly me.

*Seriously now, lying is dishonest.
And yet games like Amnesia and Vampire the Masquerade refuse to start up for me. I can get games like Magic to work though. After my computer went kaput 3 years ago I just gave up altogether. Also there'should barely any JRPG's on there so I don't see the point in using a PC.
 

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point is. except few negative review who dislike it because its too deep for them. its been getting positive reviews.
I thought I knew what analytical criticism was, because I've been doing it professionally for 7 years.
Then I read your 2deep4u and I realized I have a long, long way to go.
Thank you.
 

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Charcharo said:
RaikuFA said:
Charcharo said:
RaikuFA said:
Charcharo said:
Phoenixmgs said:
Bombiz said:
Phoenixmgs said:
Gaming is quite cheap if you play on a console.
also on PC. Don't hate PC just because of the PCMR people. makes no real sense.
I didn't hate on PC. I just prefer consoles because their pros are more important to me than the pros of PC gaming. There's quite a few people here that think console gaming has no pros at all.
Consoles objectively have no pros at all.
Cost more, offer less, dangerous to gaming's long term future.

Those are the facts.

Least I can put in a game and just start it up. Unlike on PC where I have to learn how to code just to start up a bunch of games.
This is interesting. I, as a poor Eastern European have been on PC for 20 years. Even when I didnt know English I had little issues getting a game to work.

You see, you have an installer. Press install. Yes, yes, yes several times. Then an exe appears on scree and I enter the game. Even my 6 year old self that still thought my monitor is the Computer knew that if a new game is new, I probably had to just set options to low.

And that is why I didnt learn programming. If only I knew programming was the OTHER way to PC game, I'd not have had to study C and SQL just to get a job to live in poor PC Gaming Eastern Europe. Silly me.

*Seriously now, lying is dishonest.
And yet games like Amnesia and Vampire the Masquerade refuse to start up for me. I can get games like Magic to work though. After my computer went kaput 3 years ago I just gave up altogether. Also there'should barely any JRPG's on there so I don't see the point in using a PC.
Without more information I can not tell you what the issue is. But the very fact you can even play Vampire the Masquerade (game from 2004) on PC is... already making conslows obsolete.
I suggest getting the GOG version of Vampire the Masquerade and Amnesia. Those are often very cheap and include player made fixes for VTMBL.

As for JRPGs... due to emulation and backwards compatibility, PC is ahead of any other "gaming" device.
But I can't play Vampire the Masquerade. And why should I double dip? Plus add $1000 on top of that. Not worth it. Plus a few more hundred every few months for a graphics card.
 

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Charcharo said:
RaikuFA said:
Charcharo said:
RaikuFA said:
Charcharo said:
RaikuFA said:
Charcharo said:
Phoenixmgs said:
Bombiz said:
Phoenixmgs said:
Gaming is quite cheap if you play on a console.
also on PC. Don't hate PC just because of the PCMR people. makes no real sense.
I didn't hate on PC. I just prefer consoles because their pros are more important to me than the pros of PC gaming. There's quite a few people here that think console gaming has no pros at all.
Consoles objectively have no pros at all.
Cost more, offer less, dangerous to gaming's long term future.

Those are the facts.

Least I can put in a game and just start it up. Unlike on PC where I have to learn how to code just to start up a bunch of games.
This is interesting. I, as a poor Eastern European have been on PC for 20 years. Even when I didnt know English I had little issues getting a game to work.

You see, you have an installer. Press install. Yes, yes, yes several times. Then an exe appears on scree and I enter the game. Even my 6 year old self that still thought my monitor is the Computer knew that if a new game is new, I probably had to just set options to low.

And that is why I didnt learn programming. If only I knew programming was the OTHER way to PC game, I'd not have had to study C and SQL just to get a job to live in poor PC Gaming Eastern Europe. Silly me.

*Seriously now, lying is dishonest.
And yet games like Amnesia and Vampire the Masquerade refuse to start up for me. I can get games like Magic to work though. After my computer went kaput 3 years ago I just gave up altogether. Also there'should barely any JRPG's on there so I don't see the point in using a PC.
Without more information I can not tell you what the issue is. But the very fact you can even play Vampire the Masquerade (game from 2004) on PC is... already making conslows obsolete.
I suggest getting the GOG version of Vampire the Masquerade and Amnesia. Those are often very cheap and include player made fixes for VTMBL.

As for JRPGs... due to emulation and backwards compatibility, PC is ahead of any other "gaming" device.
But I can't play Vampire the Masquerade. And why should I double dip? Plus add $1000 on top of that. Not worth it. Plus a few more hundred every few months for a graphics card.
You do not have to double-dip. Just install the Bug Fix patch/mod and then it will run. Thing is, and sorry if I assumed too much (it isnt on purpose)... well I assumed the following:
1. You are a console gamer ergo are a lot richer than I am.
2. Probably American due to console gaming (IDK if it is true).
3. You probably dont have experience installing mods. It is a simple thing to install but some people are afraid the first time they do somethng.

Again, if I assumed wrong dont be mad. It is just how it usually goes.
As for PC:
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Charcharo/saved/dcF6hM

This is above PS4 Pro level. I am sorry but not PS4 Pro level PC can be made so this is costlier, but more powerful.

And no, you dont need to upgrade a GPU every month or year. I upgrade GPUs every 6-7 years and am just fine...
1. No, not really. Only got a SNES cause my dad won it at a work raffle. Others I had to work for. 2 your right and 3 I didn't own a computer till 2010. And that one's dead.
 

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Charcharo said:
That seems more like a statement about the nature of pre-packaged consumer goods vs common individual parts which can be shoved together to make a passable machine, than anything else.
 

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Charcharo said:
Elijin said:
Charcharo said:
That seems more like a statement about the nature of pre-packaged consumer goods vs common individual parts which can be shoved together to make a passable machine, than anything else.
Unsure if I follow. I think you need to elaborate further as I dont understand the meaning of this comment. :(
The comments about poor areas of EU being PC rather than console. Seems more of a reflection on the accessibility and perceived initial cost of the pre-packaged console vs the fact they can cobble any old hardware into a workable PC.
 

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Charcharo said:
Phoenixmgs said:
Bombiz said:
Phoenixmgs said:
Gaming is quite cheap if you play on a console.
also on PC. Don't hate PC just because of the PCMR people. makes no real sense.
I didn't hate on PC. I just prefer consoles because their pros are more important to me than the pros of PC gaming. There's quite a few people here that think console gaming has no pros at all.
Consoles objectively have no pros at all.
Cost more, offer less, dangerous to gaming's long term future.

Those are the facts.
Thanks for proving my point!!!
 

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Oh geez, another thread derailed by Phoenixmgs and his smacktalk about PC.

Anyway, here's my review from steam:

Prey, I'm not that sad about missing out on Prey 2 anymore because this game is good. The games story is interesting and intriguing, the side-quests doesn't feel like a chore (most of the time), the characters you meet are actually somewhat likeable and the gameplay is solid. The music, oh the music, it's so good and it really sets the mood for the game, you, stranded on a mostly spacestation with no memory of how you got there or who you used to be. The powers are fun and varied, so are the enemies. You can never really let your guard down when it comes to the mimics, they can be anywhere and anything. Some enemies can be stupidly over-powered early on in the game, luckily you can avoid them but what's the fun in that?

Now, for the first 10 hours or so I was convinced that this game was about to be my GOTY, it was a fresch breeze in todays gaming industry...that is until I encountered some serious bugs. The first one, which wasn't too bad was when I was exploring an area, I climbed on top of something that was close to the ceiling and poof, I was through the map and I couldn't get in to the map again for maybe 10-15 minutes.

Here comes the biggest and probably the weirdest bug I've ever encountered in a game. So after maybe completing 80% of the game, I headed back to my office which is located near the start of the game. I got to the area where it was and I noticed there was something off, it seemed like the whole had reset, it's like I've never been there before, all the doors were locked, all the enemies had respawned, all the keycards were back where I found them in the first hour of the game, ALL the items (Medkits, ammo, neuromods etc) respawned exactly where they first was. Anyway, so I headed up to my office and when I entered, January (A NPC) says a line that he said when I entered the room for the first time in the game. Then I got a quest, brought up my log and it was the SAME EXACT quest that I got from him the first time I talked to him, except this time I couldn't progress it because there was no prompt to talk to him.

Luckily I could complete the game anyway, though this was very annoying since every 15 minutes or so it seemed like the area kept resetting itself meaning there was ALOT of enemies all the time in that area and there was no point in killing them. There's also and elevator in that room that you power up later in the game which makes it easier to move around in the station, but since the room kept resetting the elevator kept going offline, so I was forced to complete the same quest about 3-4 times to keep making the elevator work.

Now, the last and not as annoying bug, the waypoint. Sometimes it pointed me towards the actual objectives, sometimes it led me to a teapot, sometimes it got stuck on myself and sometimes it just vanished. Which wasn't very helpful when you're looking for something outside of the station, you know, IN SPACE.

The game was easily a 9/10 GOTY for me, but all the problems I encountered disappointed and really annoyed me, so the game gets a 7.5/10 and no chance for a GOTY in my book. I still recommend it because it's a great game.
 

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Heres the reason for negative reviews. the were expecting it would be simple game like dead space and bioshock. instead they got modern day system shock.
 

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Heres the reason for negative reviews. the were expecting it would be simple game like dead space and bioshock. instead they got modern day system shock.
No, the reason for them is that they did not enjoy the game or believe it to be as good as you or others did, and you cannot handle the fact that there are enough people that do not share your exact taste and opinions.
 

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Charcharo said:
Consoles objectively have no pros at all.
Here, let me help you:

-Cheaper: Yes, you could make the argument that PC's are cheaper if you have the know-how to cobble one together, but for average joe, PC's are usually purchased in more or less complete form. Right now, your average, pre-made PC, is going to cost much more than even the most expensive console. Even your PC-part picker shows that if I wanted to build an up to date PC from scratch, I'd be spending more than a current gen console (I actually did the calculations, and if they're in USD, that's especially true).

-More Reliable: PCs are finnicky beasts. I know this from personal experience, and in work experience, where system errors aren't exactly common, but they're not unheard of either, and have none a number on library services. The amount of times I've lost data on PC is more times than I care for, and less than a month ago, I had to fix my PC (again) due to the accumulation of dust. Some of the consoles I've had have failed over time, but we're talking timespans of decades here, not years. By extension, there's the 'plug in and play' factor.

-More Compatible: Get a game for a console and it's guaranteed to work. Maybe there's some exceptions, but consoles have the benefit of fixed hardware. I can still buy a game for my Sega Genesis, and be content in the knowledge it'll operate just fine. PC specs vary, so compatability is more iffy. This also helps for backwards compatability, because if I want to play an old game, all I need is the console for it. PC compatability becomes more finnicky after a certain point, and arguably at the time of release. The first PC game I played widely was StarCraft, and even back then, I eventually got it working on my family's then sole computer, but key word on "sole," and "eventually."

-Segregated: What I mean by this is that the PC I'm typing on now is used for a variety of things - in addition to games, I use it for various work and leisure activities. If the PC crashes (and experience has shown that it inevitably will at some point), I'm pretty much boned in these areas, to varying extents. Consoles are an example of not putting all your eggs in one basket. Part of the reason why I still collect physical books for instance - if something happened to my PC or iPad, that isn't going to affect my access to them.

-More Social: This isn't so much a pro for me now, but consoles have always had the advantage over PC with collective play. Yes, you can make the LAN argument, but sitting on the same couch, playing the same game on the same screen, LAN play doesn't generate quite the same feeling.

-Sharing Games: Technically you can do this for PC as well, if you're into piracy, but, well, let's just say there's a reason that video rental stores have console game sections, and not PC ones.

-Exclusives: This is a "technically," since any list of PC pros would have this one as well, but, yes, it's probably worth mentioning.

-Mobility: It's far easier to take round a console to another location and use it than bundling up your PC. Your laptop can get around this though, but that's about it.

I say this as someone who uses the PC and console for different things. PC is more reserved for games that truly benefit from its control scheme (e.g. RTS, MOBA, FPS to an extent), and download-based games (easy to access, easy to use microtransactions when I want, etc.) Consoles tend to be the AAA releases, where the hardware is guaranteed to meet the system requirements, and actually work.

I'm really not looking into starting an argument, since I don't have any particular hardware (or system) loyalty, but it's disingenuous to say that consoles have no advantages. It really depends what kind of advantages you're after.
 

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idk, but I'm 8 hours in on PC, and its GOTY for me so far.
Oh gaben, I just love being forced to exploit every cheap tactic possible just to get an edge, its been so long since Deus Ex 1 (well, not that long, I still play that :p )

There needs to be more immersive sims.
 

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Oh geez, another thread derailed by Phoenixmgs and his smacktalk about PC.
I derailed the thread and the not the person trying to prove PC gaming is objectively better in every conceivable way? I just stated games are cheaper on console because I can sell them if I don't like them or when I'm done with them.

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idk, but I'm 8 hours in on PC, and its GOTY for me so far.
Oh gaben, I just love being forced to exploit every cheap tactic possible just to get an edge, its been so long since Deus Ex 1 (well, not that long, I still play that :p )

There needs to be more immersive sims.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun trying to find ways of dispatching the enemies using the environment around you. I've lured so many mimics into turrets. I found out that a mimic will run into fire only once then avoid it thereafter. I think phantoms will never run into fire. I've carried around a turret, placed it outside the door, and just ran around rooms attracting mimics and lured them out the door to my previously placed turret. I've taken advantage of the "elevators" with phantoms and shoot them as they come up or down chasing me. I can't wait into I get more abilities and items to be even more creative.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
I derailed the thread and the not the person trying to prove PC gaming is objectively better in every conceivable way? I just stated games are cheaper on console because I can sell them if I don't like them or when I'm done with them.
Really? That's what you did? What guy tried to prove that PC gaming is objectively better in any conceivable way before you let this fart out:

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It's an Arkane game, you should know what kind games they make by now. I guess the "master race" is the master race because they gave up their ability to own games. If I don't like Prey, I can sell it and probably make money as I think it'll be $38 ($48 at worst) for me at Best Buy today. I guess people getting bored watching developer playthroughs is why games get hyped like Watch Dogs because Ubisoft demoed exact missions from the final game, anyone should've been able to know exactly what Watch Dogs was before purchasing.
Already trying to make this in to a console vs PC argument. You do this alot I've noticed. Then you go ''I didn't hate on PC'' which must be your slogan by now. Watch now as you can't resist to respond to bcell telling him how consoles are better.
 

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BabyfartsMcgeezaks said:
Oh geez, another thread derailed by Phoenixmgs and his smacktalk about PC.
I derailed the thread and the not the person trying to prove PC gaming is objectively better in every conceivable way? I just stated games are cheaper on console because I can sell them if I don't like them or when I'm done with them.
My friend, please tell me one reason to get a console today apart from few exclusive which i dont even care. PC has better version of every game, KB/M suit best for these types of games. playing FPS with controller is like eating soup with steel spoon instead of soup spoon.