Problems that men have to deal with

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lacktheknack

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I'm an emotional person, but people don't give me crap about it, because are YOU going to chastise the upset 300 pound bear?

Really, the only thing that I've directly been annoyed by in terms of how people treat me because I'm male is "Girls can hit guys, but guys can't hit girls".

1. In everyday life, why is anyone hitting anyone? D:
2. If a lady pulls a knife on me, I am going to punch her in the face.
 

Autumnflame

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According to popular current social media, men are undeserving of any rights, privileges or basic decency.

we all know that to be a fallacy though. as we all deserve basic dignity, respect
 

Thaluikhain

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Autumnflame said:
According to popular current social media, men are undeserving of any rights, privileges or basic decency.

we all know that to be a fallacy though.
Agreed, just not in the way that you meant it.
 

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Zen Bard said:
As a man, I am sworn to protect my family from any ferocious beasts. So it's my job to deal with them when they wander into our home and threaten my wife by simply existing.

Problem is I'm a Buddhist. So rolled up newspapers, flyswatters and sandals are not a viable solution for me.

This means I must find a way to non-violently evict the intruders from our home so we can establish peace. And spiders can sometimes be...stubborn.
Oh jeez, I was just lurking but this... man I hate this.

She's so terrified of anything that crawls, slithers or flies and I just can't kill them. So I end up faffing around for half an hour trying to catch some dumb lizard. I actually feel joy when one of the buggers turns around and bites my finger, because at that point I can actually catch it and go take it outside.
 

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Rebel_Raven said:
Zen Bard said:
As a man, I am sworn to protect my family from any ferocious beasts. So it's my job to deal with them when they wander into our home and threaten my wife by simply existing.

Problem is I'm a Buddhist. So rolled up newspapers, flyswatters and sandals are not a viable solution for me.

This means I must find a way to non-violently evict the intruders from our home so we can establish peace. And spiders can sometimes be...stubborn.
Would getting them in a cup, and taking them outside be too much? It's what I used to do. Now I just kinda accept them as they get rid of more pests than not. Especially if they'r smaller than a dime.
That's pretty much what I do. I have a special Tupperware container I use to transport all wayward spiders, snakes, waterbugs and scorpions to the great outdoors where they can resume protecting our property from more annoying pests.

Oh, and we live in Texas. None of our unintentional guests are smaller than a dime.
 

Vault101

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Westaway said:
But being psychologically strong is the polar opposite of being brain dead and emotionally broken. Being strong is always relevant, from performance in sports, to having a physical presence when you walk into a room, to getting girls. Being strong will always garner respect, just as being intelligent does. Being physically strong shows dedication to working on yourself and will always be attractive.
and why does being strong have to be gendered?
 

DementedSheep

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A lot of the stuff is stupid and pointless and men face very real issues but considering I don't think women should be acting like "women" I certainly don't want men to start. Everyone should be pressured to be a competent, worthwhile human being who can handle their own shit however not the the point that some men I know take it where you get shamed if anyone else actually dose something without your help and lie about not being sick until you start puking blood (my dad dose stuff like this) or decide you need to prove you're a real man by lifting heavy things a few days after having a hernia operation and being told by doctors not to lift heavy things. If guys think they can't even ask for help then there is a problem.
 

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When we were little kids my dad would hit my brother, but not me, because he was a boy and I was a girl. I mean really? You're going to hit a little kid because he's a boy? You, a grown ass ****, hands the size of a fucking frying pan, thinks hitting a tiny fucking child is okay because he happens to have a dick? How can I even express how fucked up that is?
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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Casual Shinji said:
Not The Bees said:
Casual Shinji said:
Women? :p

Seriously though, living at home with your parents. Even if my situation is not as clear cut, I'm still living at home with my parents.

...

Yeah, that sensation just now was your inner you instinctively scoffing at the idea of a nearly 32-year old man still living with his mommy and daddy.
Hey, it happens. In this economy, we're lucky we're not all living with your parents. Seriously. *blink* Can we move in?
Hey man, I was living with my parents before the collapsed economy made it cool -- I can't have some fakers cramping my style.
Me too, and then the economy went to shit and I said to hell with this, I'm gonna do the opposite. So now I live with my father-in-law... lol, is that like a trope inversion or something? I'm not always sure how that works.

OT: Well things I have to deal with as a man?
Note: this may get a bit personal

1. Sitting down and not harming two very precious parts of the anatomy. I'll leave it at that, but yes that is a problem for me sometimes.

2. I hate to shave my face, not because I'm lazy but because I always tend to get bad razor burn. Damn sensitive skin that no lotion available can soothe.

3. Never being able to understand women. I live in a house with my daughter and wife, it can drive me absolutely batshit crazy. Being a whole different configuration of hormones makes for some odd things, and its maddening. But hey I accept that as a guy I'll never understand a woman completely and I'm fine with that. I wish my wife would grasp that part though... :)
 

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I know Korean males have to enlist in military for 20 months because technically Korean War didn't end.

Oh you Korean ladies have it soooooo easy.
 

Vault101

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DementedSheep said:
A lot of the stupid is stupid and pointless and face very real issues but considering I don't think women should be acting like "women" I certainly don't want men to start.
define "acting like women"
 

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Westaway said:
But being psychologically strong is the polar opposite of being brain dead and emotionally broken. Being strong is always relevant, from performance in sports, to having a physical presence when you walk into a room, to getting girls. Being strong will always garner respect, just as being intelligent does. Being physically strong shows dedication to working on yourself and will always be attractive.
The thing is, physically strong hasn't been on top since the creation of civilized society. Although from physical strength contributes to fitness biologically, not even the most important trait as other factors contribute to health beyond fitness, as fitness doesn't necessary connect to appearance and noticeable health, it never held a high attribute to success in society. Although always a virtue made important, much of it is rationally contributed on how the elite control society. The elite tend to be those of higher intelligence and status that did not rely on their own fitness for power. They found their mating success through position alone. Emphasis on male fitness though benefited these elites greatly. The male stereotype of being strong, unemotional, and incredibly loyal meant elites had perfect enough soldiers to die on their behalf while accepting their roles honorable and epitomized. Keeping these traits epitomized by males meant elites could always have men to strive for strength and virtues that kept them in place to die for their causes. Biological male virtues apply more to animals that have not reached societies where power (positional since we haven't put physically strongest since per-historic times) leads to mates and better chance at survival.
Being strong garners the illusion of respect due to the pawned role elites in society have placed on men. You can see this in how soldiers, those who exhibit strength and heavy male traits, are treated greatly in use but disrespected as finished pawns after their jobs are finished.
 

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erttheking said:
Well I can tell you a few things.

For one, being a tall and big guy, I know how you feel about the basketball question. I'm Texan, so for me it was football, but the ubiquity of the question remains. It's a drag, but you cannot let it get to you. Most folks aren't assuming so much as they're trying to make conversation. We're social creatures and for a lot of people, it's a solid ice-breaker. It may suck answering the same question over and over, but I doubt the scorn you notice is all on their side. I.E. I imagine you're projecting a little bit. And that's not an accusation, I know I did it when I was a teen and in my 20s.

As you get older, you find the balance and you stop caring what others think. At 42 I like a lot of traditional "manly" things. But you know, I like a lot of pretty "girly" things too, speaking traditionally. I'm of a mind that if it makes a person happy and hurts no one, it doesn't matter what society says. Like you I had a good family who didn't judge and taught me to worry about me and the rest would sort itself out.

So I can sit and sip scotch whiskey when I'm feeling like it, and I can spend 30 minutes making my hair look the way I like it. I can watch 80s action films and RomComs alike and find the art in either even if they are traditionally coded male and female. Bottom line, it'll get better. Focus on your writing and get great at it. Get published. In a few years, those folks who made you feel awkward will want to interview you and ask about your next novel (or whatever you want to do with your craft).

Good luck! :)
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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insaninater said:
Imperioratorex Caprae said:
Casual Shinji said:
Not The Bees said:
Casual Shinji said:
Women? :p

Seriously though, living at home with your parents. Even if my situation is not as clear cut, I'm still living at home with my parents.

...

Yeah, that sensation just now was your inner you instinctively scoffing at the idea of a nearly 32-year old man still living with his mommy and daddy.
Hey, it happens. In this economy, we're lucky we're not all living with your parents. Seriously. *blink* Can we move in?
Hey man, I was living with my parents before the collapsed economy made it cool -- I can't have some fakers cramping my style.
Me too, and then the economy went to shit and I said to hell with this, I'm gonna do the opposite. So now I live with my father-in-law... lol, is that like a trope inversion or something? I'm not always sure how that works.

OT: Well things I have to deal with as a man?
Note: this may get a bit personal

1. Sitting down and not harming two very precious parts of the anatomy. I'll leave it at that, but yes that is a problem for me sometimes.

2. I hate to shave my face, not because I'm lazy but because I always tend to get bad razor burn. Damn sensitive skin that no lotion available can soothe.

3. Never being able to understand women. I live in a house with my daughter and wife, it can drive me absolutely batshit crazy. Being a whole different configuration of hormones makes for some odd things, and its maddening. But hey I accept that as a guy I'll never understand a woman completely and I'm fine with that. I wish my wife would grasp that part though... :)
Why are people acting like women don't have to shave? Women have it a lot worse when it comes to shaving. If you're a dude, you can just grow a beard if you want, nobody bats an eye, people don't let that fly if you're a woman. Plus as dudes we don't have to worry about shaving our legs and pits and such.
I'm not. I was commenting on how, as a guy, shaving my face is extremely annoying and I'd give anything to not have to do that and its one of the things I envy about women. Also I've shaved my entire body before and as a guy thats still much harder than a woman considering we tend to get hair in more places than they do.
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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insaninater said:
Imperioratorex Caprae said:
insaninater said:
Imperioratorex Caprae said:
Casual Shinji said:
Not The Bees said:
Casual Shinji said:
Women? :p

Seriously though, living at home with your parents. Even if my situation is not as clear cut, I'm still living at home with my parents.

...

Yeah, that sensation just now was your inner you instinctively scoffing at the idea of a nearly 32-year old man still living with his mommy and daddy.
Hey, it happens. In this economy, we're lucky we're not all living with your parents. Seriously. *blink* Can we move in?
Hey man, I was living with my parents before the collapsed economy made it cool -- I can't have some fakers cramping my style.
Me too, and then the economy went to shit and I said to hell with this, I'm gonna do the opposite. So now I live with my father-in-law... lol, is that like a trope inversion or something? I'm not always sure how that works.

OT: Well things I have to deal with as a man?
Note: this may get a bit personal

1. Sitting down and not harming two very precious parts of the anatomy. I'll leave it at that, but yes that is a problem for me sometimes.

2. I hate to shave my face, not because I'm lazy but because I always tend to get bad razor burn. Damn sensitive skin that no lotion available can soothe.

3. Never being able to understand women. I live in a house with my daughter and wife, it can drive me absolutely batshit crazy. Being a whole different configuration of hormones makes for some odd things, and its maddening. But hey I accept that as a guy I'll never understand a woman completely and I'm fine with that. I wish my wife would grasp that part though... :)
Why are people acting like women don't have to shave? Women have it a lot worse when it comes to shaving. If you're a dude, you can just grow a beard if you want, nobody bats an eye, people don't let that fly if you're a woman. Plus as dudes we don't have to worry about shaving our legs and pits and such.
I'm not. I was commenting on how, as a guy, shaving my face is extremely annoying and I'd give anything to not have to do that and its one of the things I envy about women. Also I've shaved my entire body before and as a guy thats still much harder than a woman considering we tend to get hair in more places than they do.
But women do still have to shave their faces. Maybe not as much, but it's not like women just don't grow hair on their faces.
I understand that. I just don't personally know that many women who have to deal with a five-o-clock shadow at 1:30PM like I do though.
 

Vault101

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Imperioratorex Caprae said:
I'm not. I was commenting on how, as a guy, shaving my face is extremely annoying and I'd give anything to not have to do that and its one of the things I envy about women. Also I've shaved my entire body before and as a guy thats still much harder than a woman considering we tend to get hair in more places than they do.
I'm preeeeety sure women have hair in all the same places men do, its just a question of density
 

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Men often have to cope with emotional problems on their own, because frankly, a lot less people care, people are more likely to just tell you to grow up. Especially in relationships. Rejection is considered funny when it happens to a man, which is doubly painful when you're often the one who has to put their emotions on the line to make the first move. Of course, not saying someone doesn't have the right to reject a man but nobody seems to admit just how much that shit hurts.
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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Vault101 said:
Imperioratorex Caprae said:
I'm not. I was commenting on how, as a guy, shaving my face is extremely annoying and I'd give anything to not have to do that and its one of the things I envy about women. Also I've shaved my entire body before and as a guy thats still much harder than a woman considering we tend to get hair in more places than they do.
I'm preeeeety sure women have hair in all the same places men do, its just a question of density
Exactly, down-like hair isn't noticeable or really needs to be shaved. I'm well aware there is hair there, but my experience has been that women don't get the same noticeable thickness. I didn't mean to claim they don't have any, just that its not the of the shaving necessity type. Yes I realize there are women who get that type of hair in similar/same areas, and I can sympathize with them on it. My whole point was that there are far far more men who have to deal with shaving their faces constantly than there are women who do. I've also been written up at a job for not shaving in a timely manner (even though I had bad razor burn and a doctors note saying I wasn't supposed to shave at that time). Aside from modeling/acting, I don't know of any jobs a woman could have that would put shaving as a requirement, but hey I could be wrong.
 

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Imperioratorex Caprae said:
Vault101 said:
Imperioratorex Caprae said:
I'm not. I was commenting on how, as a guy, shaving my face is extremely annoying and I'd give anything to not have to do that and its one of the things I envy about women. Also I've shaved my entire body before and as a guy thats still much harder than a woman considering we tend to get hair in more places than they do.
I'm preeeeety sure women have hair in all the same places men do, its just a question of density
Exactly, down-like hair isn't noticeable or really needs to be shaved. I'm well aware there is hair there, but my experience has been that women don't get the same noticeable thickness. I didn't mean to claim they don't have any, just that its not the of the shaving necessity type. Yes I realize there are women who get that type of hair in similar/same areas, and I can sympathize with them on it. My whole point was that there are far far more men who have to deal with shaving their faces constantly than there are women who do. I've also been written up at a job for not shaving in a timely manner (even though I had bad razor burn and a doctors note saying I wasn't supposed to shave at that time). Aside from modeling/acting, I don't know of any jobs a woman could have that would put shaving as a requirement, but hey I could be wrong.
I think it really depends. It's not so much required as severely frowned upon in a professionalism sense. Wear a skirt to work? Better make sure your legs are shaved.

With women and facial hair, I imagine it's just more of the "She has visible facial hair. Eeew/She's hideous/etc" reaction that seems to be commonplace that's bothersome. At least, that's something that's always bothered me about it.
 

Imperioratorex Caprae

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Aesir23 said:
Imperioratorex Caprae said:
Vault101 said:
Imperioratorex Caprae said:
I'm not. I was commenting on how, as a guy, shaving my face is extremely annoying and I'd give anything to not have to do that and its one of the things I envy about women. Also I've shaved my entire body before and as a guy thats still much harder than a woman considering we tend to get hair in more places than they do.
I'm preeeeety sure women have hair in all the same places men do, its just a question of density
Exactly, down-like hair isn't noticeable or really needs to be shaved. I'm well aware there is hair there, but my experience has been that women don't get the same noticeable thickness. I didn't mean to claim they don't have any, just that its not the of the shaving necessity type. Yes I realize there are women who get that type of hair in similar/same areas, and I can sympathize with them on it. My whole point was that there are far far more men who have to deal with shaving their faces constantly than there are women who do. I've also been written up at a job for not shaving in a timely manner (even though I had bad razor burn and a doctors note saying I wasn't supposed to shave at that time). Aside from modeling/acting, I don't know of any jobs a woman could have that would put shaving as a requirement, but hey I could be wrong.
I think it really depends. It's not so much required as severely frowned upon in a professionalism sense. Wear a skirt to work? Better make sure your legs are shaved.

With women and facial hair, I imagine it's just more of the "She has visible facial hair. Eeew/She's hideous/etc" reaction that seems to be commonplace that's bothersome. At least, that's something that's always bothered me about it.
I might be one of the rare people who don't care about the aesthetic thing, I've always felt that its a personal image issue and not something other folks should really care about. I just hate to shave my face for multiple reasons. I've run into a disconnect though in some foodservice jobs I've had where guys can't have long hair because of a health issue but women are allowed as long as they put it up. I don't see that as "men are being held back" but rather that women are being held to different standards on that issue. I called a general manager out on this before and they were less than receptive on it. It wasn't that I wanted long hair or women to cut theirs, I just wanted to see a silly outdated aesthetic non-issue masked by "health concerns" that were totally contradictory be taken out of use. Its just silly.
Actually I think the whole thing is silly. Unless there's a hygiene issue involved, it shouldn't matter what someone looks like or whether they shave or not.