Prolific "video games make you bad" researcher exposed as planning to refuse to publish his work if it doesn't show video game make you bad + mor

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Dude, that was a joke referring to the assertions certain users have made that elections would be safer and more honest under military supervision. It was not an argument I was making, it was a throwaway comment. This example just throws your reading comprehension and ability to detect context under more scrutiny.

Or to put it differently: I was never engaged in a conversation or argument there. I made a single comment with no follow up, I did not back out of a conversation because I was never engaged in one. You will find many examples of that, if its your bar.
 

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Or to put it differently: I was never engaged in a conversation or argument there. I made a single comment with no follow up, I did not back out of a conversation because I was never engaged in one.
How about the time when you backed out of a conversation while making a fart noise?
 
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How about the time when you backed out of a conversation while making a fart noise?
The one where I blatantly expressed I was done for the evening, and made a joke (hint: you two weren't the intended audience) on my way out? Yeah absolutely, as repeatedly stated, I feel no shame in stepping away from the cycle with you guys (if anything I feel a little shame that I step into it).

That is VERY different than quietly trying to pretend the things based entirely on misreading other uses posts never happened.
 

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Ahh, we've hit the "it doesn't matter what gets argued because the people making the argument are lying liars who lie" part of the discourse. Grand
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Problem is when people do literally come out claiming they want moral codes in place to stop certain content being allowed.

Criticism isn't censorship by claiming things are harmful or shouldn't be allowed well that's very much presenting a view said elements should be censored.

Hell censors of the past were very much pushing the "We don't want to censor anything" angle. Mary Whitehouse being a great example

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She even says "We don't want anything censored or banned" or words to that effect. Then later goes on to say how she's trying to push the BBFC (British Board of Film Classification) to do their job and ban or demand cuts to films.
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Any criticism of media is defacto attempts at censorship, regardless of the actual argument, because they know what is *really* being argued.

It's a thought terminating argument.
 
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Dude, that was a joke referring to the assertions certain users have made that elections would be safer and more honest under military supervision. It was not an argument I was making, it was a throwaway comment. This example just throws your reading comprehension and ability to detect context under more scrutiny.
And apparently your own to fail to get when some-one is knowingly playing on your point to turn it back round
I.E. you were taking a shot at people who asserted the election would be safer under military supervision (which Myanmar was a military coup after the election in full context of the subject) so my response was to point out how others whom you likely see as allies were very much pushing the idea of a coup and military siding with the civilian population against Trump. There was even a Vice thing speculating minute by minute how it would go down.

Or to put it differently: I was never engaged in a conversation or argument there. I made a single comment with no follow up, I did not back out of a conversation because I was never engaged in one. You will find many examples of that, if its your bar.
Well I can find one right in this thread. You either didn't get the Giant Flying Spaghetti monster reference or did and chose to ignore that point.
 

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Ahh, we've hit the "it doesn't matter what gets argued because the people making the argument are lying liars who lie" part of the discourse. Grand
Problem is when people do literally come out claiming they want moral codes in place to stop certain content being allowed.

Criticism isn't censorship by claiming things are harmful or shouldn't be allowed well that's very much presenting a view said elements should be censored.

Hell censors of the past were very much pushing the "We don't want to censor anything" angle. Mary Whitehouse being a great example

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She even says "We don't want anything censored or banned" or words to that effect. Then later goes on to say how she's trying to push the BBFC (British Board of Film Classification) to do their job and ban or demand cuts to films.
Any criticism of media is defacto attempts at censorship, regardless of the actual argument, because they know what is *really* being argued.

It's a thought terminating argument.
Falsely presenting something as actually harmful to society does rather imply you either want to banned or censored or you're a complete monster who is fine with said elements in society.

Mary Whitehouse was a huge pusher of censorship lol later in the full thing that clip is from she points out she believes it's the BBFCs job to censor and ban things and her actions are to try and get it to do it's job........
 

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I only need to see the title of that programme to know it's almost guaranteed to be colossal load of shit.

If for whatever reason you can have a man with a female brain or a woman with a male brain, then all it proves that that particular concept of brains being "male" and "female" is hogwash.
HOW transphobic of you!
 
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You mean the video that's actually from BBC's Horizon Science documentary series?

That's the problem of passing judgement that quick lol
One can only note the irony of you so spending so long in these forums complaining about mainstream media, and then assuming something is high reliability because it's mainstream media.

HOW transphobic of you!
I can tell from the title that it is referring to a neuroscientific theory that is at best contentious and at worst trash.
 

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It is almost as if one can be supportive of transgender rights and not support poorly evidenced and researched neuroscientific theories based on conservative views on gender as a simple duality.
Weird then that when I stated the same thing many times in the past that I got most of this community telling me how I'm wrong.
 
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Weird then that when I stated the same thing many times in the past that I got most of this community telling me how I'm wrong.
Because they were "poorly evidenced and researched neuroscientific theories based on conservative views"

as opposed to "poorly evidenced and researched neuroscientific theories based on progressive views"

Remember the magic word: Partisanship!
 
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Because they were "poorly evidenced and researched neuroscientific theories based on conservative views"

as opposed to "poorly evidenced and researched neuroscientific theories based on progressive views"

Remember the magic word: Partisanship!
In fairness, Agema is much more eloquent than myself so it's entirely possible people misconstrue my intent.
 

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Because they were "poorly evidenced and researched neuroscientific theories based on conservative views"

as opposed to "poorly evidenced and researched neuroscientific theories based on progressive views"
Except what progressives are more strictly arguing in gender and neuroscience is "We don't really know". That happens to be the best overall summary, and bypasses the annoying habit of biasing theories with ill-conceived assumptions. That's not without accepting there are some frankly dubious progressive theories, but at least they aren't the watered-down continuations of 19th century prejudices.
 
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One can only note the irony of you so spending so long in these forums complaining about mainstream media, and then assuming something is high reliability because it's mainstream media.
Strange cause I generally take more shots at US media and the selective covering of stories.

Hell the BBC Horizon Science stuff tends to be pretty good and was hosted by two actual scientists, this wasn't just some thrown together documentary with people who are just reading a script. Hell they do some of the experiments showing the differences on the show. The argument is if it's nature or nurture and so far most of the evidence is nature


I can tell from the title that it is referring to a neuroscientific theory that is at best contentious and at worst trash.
Oh you mean the theory which is basically confirmed by Dr Verma's research which has formed some of the basis of the understanding of being trans. If there is no such differences then unfortunately it brings up the argument of if transitioning is really required which, I don't think will go down well.

It's funny it shouldn't be contentious nearly 7 years on but it is because some people are very strongly fixed in the "There's no differences between men and women beyond genitals" which is kind of what Anita was pushing too and pushing so there are no gender boundaries or classes in sport, which would be a pretty poor idea to do.


Weird then that when I stated the same thing many times in the past that I got most of this community telling me how I'm wrong.
It's funnier still that people are yelling that Dr Verma's research somehow doesn't count but people are fighting tooth and nail to defend Anita's work or other work which is considered very highly flawed that claims to prove video games cause aggression or other such stuff. Meanwhile ignoring or dismissing the mounds of research disproving the links.
 

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Because they were "poorly evidenced and researched neuroscientific theories based on conservative views"
Almost as if conservative parties & groups have a long history of condemning sexual/gender minorities, attempting to legally restrict their rights, or forcing them into repressive conversion therapies, based not on science but on theocratic bunkum.
 

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Almost as if conservative parties & groups have a long history of condemning sexual/gender minorities, attempting to legally restrict their rights, or forcing them into repressive conversion therapies, based not on science but on theocratic bunkum.
yes I'm sure Dr Verma is a poster child stereotypical conservative.

You might want to look them up. It's Dr Ragini Verma
 

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yes I'm sure Dr Verma is a poster child stereotypical conservative.

You might want to look them up. It's Dr Ragini Verma
Why do you keep attempting to argue against things that people never say?