Prove your existence.

[Realitycrash]

I think and therefore I am.

You on the other hand are a bot.

Cogito ergo Sum doesn't necessarily prove that YOU exist, just that SOMEONE (something?) exists.
Nothing says that those thoughts in your head that you seem to controll doesn't belong to someone else, and you are just a part of this somoene/something.

for the purposes of cogito ergo sum, the person doing the thinking shall be referred to as I

That person might as well be the emperor of Japan, Cthuhlu, or the solipcist that started this thread. Nothing says that it must be Ravensheart18.

 

[Realitycrash]

i must exist because you are asking me a question. for me to answer a question i must think, and to think means at least my mind exists. if i am a figment of your imagination then i essentially am you, and you obviously exist because cogito ergo sum, therefore i still exist.

QED

By your logic, all hallucinations that speak also think.

 

[viking97]

i must exist because you are asking me a question. for me to answer a question i must think, and to think means at least my mind exists. if i am a figment of your imagination then i essentially am you, and you obviously exist because cogito ergo sum, therefore i still exist.

QED

By your logic, all hallucinations that speak also think.

yes, i was thinking about this shortly after posting. i was hoping nobody would notice.

 

[viking97]

I think and therefore I am.

You on the other hand are a bot.

Cogito ergo Sum doesn't necessarily prove that YOU exist, just that SOMEONE (something?) exists.
Nothing says that those thoughts in your head that you seem to controll doesn't belong to someone else, and you are just a part of this somoene/something.

for the purposes of cogito ergo sum, the person doing the thinking shall be referred to as I

That person might as well be the emperor of Japan, Cthuhlu, or the solipcist that started this thread. Nothing says that it must be Ravensheart18.

In this we are in agreement, although we might differ on the significance of that fact.

 

[wolf92]

If I didn't exist, than how could I be drinking a two liter bottle of delicious cherry coke?

 

[Benny Blanco]

     
"I dreamed I was a butterfly, flitting around in the sky; then I awoke. Now I wonder: Am I a man who dreamt of being a butterfly, or am I a butterfly dreaming that I am a man?" -Chuang tzu-

I have decided you are all fragments of my imagination. Prove to me that you aren't. Prove to me you exist. I am easily persuaded .

(i am not looking for pictures ,names , numbers or anything of the like. How does one prove their existance or the existance of others?)

I got past this level of solipsistic bullcrap in high-school and have no wish to revisit it. I could perhaps prove my existence to you, but in order to do so I would have to do horrible and illegal things, things so unpleasant that you would be sure you weren't imagining them. Also not something I'm up for- I tend to follow a live-and-let-live ethos.

I think the most ridiculous deconstruction of this happened at a woods party I attended with some friends. We met some toolbox who claimed to be studying metaphysics from an interdimensional being called Zaktar. His conversation with my friend Jake went a little something like this-


Disciple of Zaktar: We all manifest our own reality.
Jake: What do you mean?
DoZ: I mean that our realities are manifestations of our own thoughts and desires.
(Jake pauses to consider this)
Jake: What about rape victims?
DoZ: What about them?
Jake: Do rape victims manifest their own reality?
DoZ: Yes. Everyone manifests their own reality.
Jake: OK. We're going over there now.
(Exeunt Jake, Chin & Benny)

 

[Realitycrash]

I think and therefore I am.

You on the other hand are a bot.

Cogito ergo Sum doesn't necessarily prove that YOU exist, just that SOMEONE (something?) exists.
Nothing says that those thoughts in your head that you seem to controll doesn't belong to someone else, and you are just a part of this somoene/something.

for the purposes of cogito ergo sum, the person doing the thinking shall be referred to as I

That person might as well be the emperor of Japan, Cthuhlu, or the solipcist that started this thread. Nothing says that it must be Ravensheart18.

In this we are in agreement, although we might differ on the significance of that fact.

I'm not even totally convinced that Cogito Ergo Sum proves that something at all exists. I'v never been very impressed by that argument. Still, it's the best we have. Descartes still didn't prove that the supposed demon tricking him wasn't all that existed.

 

[viking97]

I think and therefore I am.

You on the other hand are a bot.

Cogito ergo Sum doesn't necessarily prove that YOU exist, just that SOMEONE (something?) exists.
Nothing says that those thoughts in your head that you seem to controll doesn't belong to someone else, and you are just a part of this somoene/something.

for the purposes of cogito ergo sum, the person doing the thinking shall be referred to as I

That person might as well be the emperor of Japan, Cthuhlu, or the solipcist that started this thread. Nothing says that it must be Ravensheart18.

In this we are in agreement, although we might differ on the significance of that fact.

I'm not even totally convinced that Cogito Ergo Sum proves that something at all exists. I'v never been very impressed by that argument. Still, it's the best we have. Descartes still didn't prove that the supposed demon tricking him wasn't all that existed.

you know before i stumbled on this thread i thought cogito ergo sum was an infallible argument, but i've since had a lot to think about.

 

[Jake0fTrades]

I exist, therefore I am.

 

[Realitycrash]

I think and therefore I am.

You on the other hand are a bot.

Cogito ergo Sum doesn't necessarily prove that YOU exist, just that SOMEONE (something?) exists.
Nothing says that those thoughts in your head that you seem to controll doesn't belong to someone else, and you are just a part of this somoene/something.

for the purposes of cogito ergo sum, the person doing the thinking shall be referred to as I

That person might as well be the emperor of Japan, Cthuhlu, or the solipcist that started this thread. Nothing says that it must be Ravensheart18.

In this we are in agreement, although we might differ on the significance of that fact.

I'm not even totally convinced that Cogito Ergo Sum proves that something at all exists. I'v never been very impressed by that argument. Still, it's the best we have. Descartes still didn't prove that the supposed demon tricking him wasn't all that existed.

you know before i stumbled on this thread i thought cogito ergo sum was an infallible argument, but i've since had a lot to think about.

All Cogito Ergo Sum says is that something exists, and something is interpretating this somehow, maybe not even on a conciouse level. It certainly isn't a proof against a solipcist that says "I am the only thing that exists, you are all just a figment of my imagination".

 

[countrysteaksauce]

I'm not a part of your system man. I'm an adult!

 

[Cpu46]

Well lets look at it this way. Imagination is a lot like dreaming. You can really only imagine or dream what you have experienced. The form and construction of the experiences may be new and even outlandish, but everything is based off of a real interaction. A person blind since birth can not dream or imagine images or color since they have no frame of reference. In order to imagine that you are interacting with someone you must first have actually done so. Therefore everyone can not be a figment of your imagination since without a real person to base the interaction there would be no way to imagine more interactions. The chance of you being able to imagine thousands of individual entities is extremely low. Therefore, while there is a chance that I do not exist, it is highly unlikely.


TL;DR
You can't imagine something that relies on stimuli that you have not experienced, therefore my existence is highly likely but not guaranteed.

 

[medicvalues]

i exist through the fact that even if i am of your subconscious thought by being something that takes up something which in this case can either be matter or just space in yo noggin

 

[Fearzone]

I suppose you can ask me a question that you can't possibly know, and if I can answer it correctly, that is strong evidence of my otherness.

 

[Realitycrash]

Well lets look at it this way. Imagination is a lot like dreaming. You can really only imagine or dream what you have experienced. The form and construction of the experiences may be new and even outlandish, but everything is based off of a real interaction. A person blind since birth can not dream or imagine images or color since they have no frame of reference. In order to imagine that you are interacting with someone you must first have actually done so. Therefore everyone can not be a figment of your imagination since without a real person to base the interaction there would be no way to imagine more interactions. The chance of you being able to imagine thousands of individual entities is extremely low. Therefore, while there is a chance that I do not exist, it is highly unlikely.


TL;DR
You can't imagine something that relies on stimuli that you have not experienced, therefore my existence is highly likely but not guaranteed.

Untrue. There is no fact backing up that I can't imagine things I have not experienced. I have never met a mermaid, yet I can imagine one. I can imagine a pigmaid (that's an antromorph-pig with mermaid fin), and I have never even seen one in a cartoon.
One can imagine almost everything, and construct it from previous things you have experienced, even if they are not the exactly what you experienced before.

 

[mitchell271]

This is a boring one but, "I think, therefore I am." Philosophied, ******


*This isn't condescension, I just like ending this sort of thing with a "*****"

 

[medicvalues]

Well lets look at it this way. Imagination is a lot like dreaming. You can really only imagine or dream what you have experienced. The form and construction of the experiences may be new and even outlandish, but everything is based off of a real interaction. A person blind since birth can not dream or imagine images or color since they have no frame of reference. In order to imagine that you are interacting with someone you must first have actually done so. Therefore everyone can not be a figment of your imagination since without a real person to base the interaction there would be no way to imagine more interactions. The chance of you being able to imagine thousands of individual entities is extremely low. Therefore, while there is a chance that I do not exist, it is highly unlikely.


TL;DR
You can't imagine something that relies on stimuli that you have not experienced, therefore my existence is highly likely but not guaranteed.

Untrue. There is no fact backing up that I can't imagine things I have not experienced. I have never met a mermaid, yet I can imagine one. I can imagine a pigmaid (that's an antromorph-pig with mermaid fin), and I have never even seen one in a cartoon.
One can imagine almost everything, and construct it from previous things you have experienced, even if they are not the exactly what you experienced before.

you have just come to the combination of multiple different things you have seen in life and combined said things

 

[German Borbon]

im too smart for being part of an imagination as yours, or maybe not....

 

[Realitycrash]

I suppose you can ask me a question that you can't possibly know, and if I can answer it correctly, that is strong evidence of my otherness.

The solipcist can just argue that since everything is part of him, he already knew the answer, he just didn't remember it.

 

[Realitycrash]

Well lets look at it this way. Imagination is a lot like dreaming. You can really only imagine or dream what you have experienced. The form and construction of the experiences may be new and even outlandish, but everything is based off of a real interaction. A person blind since birth can not dream or imagine images or color since they have no frame of reference. In order to imagine that you are interacting with someone you must first have actually done so. Therefore everyone can not be a figment of your imagination since without a real person to base the interaction there would be no way to imagine more interactions. The chance of you being able to imagine thousands of individual entities is extremely low. Therefore, while there is a chance that I do not exist, it is highly unlikely.


TL;DR
You can't imagine something that relies on stimuli that you have not experienced, therefore my existence is highly likely but not guaranteed.

Untrue. There is no fact backing up that I can't imagine things I have not experienced. I have never met a mermaid, yet I can imagine one. I can imagine a pigmaid (that's an antromorph-pig with mermaid fin), and I have never even seen one in a cartoon.
One can imagine almost everything, and construct it from previous things you have experienced, even if they are not the exactly what you experienced before.

you have just come to the combination of multiple different things you have seen in life and combined said things

The person might be born with the ´knowledge of interaction, or have exprienced it before, then gone mad and created a dream-world, from which we are all a part of.