PS3 Cracked With Modded Controller

[Mr. Gency]

I would hire the hacker to find exploits so they can be fixed before the public discovers it.

But that's just me.

 

[-Samurai-]

I would hire the hacker to find exploits so they can be fixed before the public discovers it.

But that's just me.

Well, with every fix, there opens a new exploit. No firmware will every be hack proof. Some people are better at finding certain ones than others.

OT: I think it's pointless to open up the PS3 with a hack. You gonna run games from machines that are 10+ years old on it? Or, will you spend hours downloading 20+ gigs to get one game?

All this means for someone like me is another tedious update before I can play.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

Thats what happens when you make online play free, it attracts hax0rs.

 

[oranger]

Well...there's a line between modifying your own property and infringing on copyright....unless you're modding your ps3, then there's no copying being done, sooo....what's the big deal here?
Both groups (sony and the hackers) are within their rights here.

 

[Mr. Gency]

I would hire the hacker to find exploits so they can be fixed before the public discovers it.

But that's just me.

Well, with every fix, there opens a new exploit. No firmware will every be hack proof. Some people are better at finding certain ones than others.

I figured, but it doesn't hurt to stay a step or two ahead.

 

[UberMore]

Ah shit, can't people just leave it alone?! Stop hacking the damn thing! You're screwing with a good system and destroying it for the rest of us. Consoles can't handle hacks like PCs can; with a PC it's an individual setup, but a console is uniform, so if one person fucks it, they're fucking all of them.

Just buy the damn games, or wait and save up!
The time it's taken to hack the console, then download the games, then get them to work on a PS3 is roughly the same amount of time you could participate in a sleep study, or a hell of a lot more than donating time/blood for a cash reward which would easily cover, or at least put money towards, buying the game you've hacked your PS3 for in the first place!

 

[UberMore]

Well...there's a line between modifying your own property and infringing on copyright....unless you're modding your ps3, then there's no copying being done, sooo....what's the big deal here?
Both groups (sony and the hackers) are within their rights here.

Hackers are really not within their rights. Hacking a PS3 has NOTHING to do with copyright, but it is tampering with a registered and protected product, modifying without the patentee's consent.
It's highly illegal, and if they bother taking it to court, Sony'll win so fast that the hacker'll wish they'd just got a sunday job and saved up £300, instead of the thousands the court fees'll cost.

 

[oppp7]

Seriously, is pirating games worth the trouble anymore? And as for homebrew, why don't you put it on a PC or whatever?

 

[BlackWidower]

Wait, I think they might have buried the lead on this one. A recent PS3 update disables third-party accessories? That's a big deal, and is one of the reasons I think we, as a people, should abandon consoles altogether! WHO'S WITH ME!?

*crickets chirp*

...damn.

 

[BlackWidower]

Seriously, is pirating games worth the trouble anymore? And as for homebrew, why don't you put it on a PC or whatever?

I think the idea there involves the specific controller. Though one could easily just get their Wiimote or DualShock3 working with their PC on Bluetooth. Not hard people.

 

[BlackWidower]

Well...there's a line between modifying your own property and infringing on copyright....unless you're modding your ps3, then there's no copying being done, sooo....what's the big deal here?
Both groups (sony and the hackers) are within their rights here.

Hackers are really not within their rights. Hacking a PS3 has NOTHING to do with copyright, but it is tampering with a registered and protected product, modifying without the patentee's consent.
It's highly illegal, and if they bother taking it to court, Sony'll win so fast that the hacker'll wish they'd just got a sunday job and saved up £300, instead of the thousands the court fees'll cost.

Wait so you're saying modding is illegal across the board. If I want to...oh...I don't know... cannibalize a DDR pad into a sturdier construction or modify a guitar controller so the pickup works or it has ten buttons (all of these are mods I have seen done) it's illegal?

Just checking.

 

[UberMore]

Well...there's a line between modifying your own property and infringing on copyright....unless you're modding your ps3, then there's no copying being done, sooo....what's the big deal here?
Both groups (sony and the hackers) are within their rights here.

Hackers are really not within their rights. Hacking a PS3 has NOTHING to do with copyright, but it is tampering with a registered and protected product, modifying without the patentee's consent.
It's highly illegal, and if they bother taking it to court, Sony'll win so fast that the hacker'll wish they'd just got a sunday job and saved up £300, instead of the thousands the court fees'll cost.

Wait so you're saying modding is illegal across the board. If I want to...oh...I don't know... cannibalize a DDR pad into a sturdier construction or modify a guitar controller so the pickup works or it has ten buttons (all of these are mods I have seen done) it's illegal?

Just checking.

Yes, yes it is illegal. It's modification without permission. Breaching the contract made when purchasing the product.

Now, what you've mentioned aren't such a big deal as they don't really cost the company all that much money, so these people probably won't be pursued and would be allowed to keep their pet projects.
But modifying something so that it intentionally breaks the function of an entire console AND damages every single company that makes any form of media for the console in question will probably be hunted down, or at the very least made impossible to use.

 

[BlackWidower]

Well...there's a line between modifying your own property and infringing on copyright....unless you're modding your ps3, then there's no copying being done, sooo....what's the big deal here?
Both groups (sony and the hackers) are within their rights here.

Hackers are really not within their rights. Hacking a PS3 has NOTHING to do with copyright, but it is tampering with a registered and protected product, modifying without the patentee's consent.
It's highly illegal, and if they bother taking it to court, Sony'll win so fast that the hacker'll wish they'd just got a sunday job and saved up £300, instead of the thousands the court fees'll cost.

Wait so you're saying modding is illegal across the board. If I want to...oh...I don't know... cannibalize a DDR pad into a sturdier construction or modify a guitar controller so the pickup works or it has ten buttons (all of these are mods I have seen done) it's illegal?

Just checking.

Yes, yes it is illegal. It's modification without permission. Breaching the contract made when purchasing the product.

Now, what you've mentioned aren't such a big deal as they don't really cost the company all that much money, so these people probably won't be pursued and would be allowed to keep their pet projects.
But modifying something so that it intentionally breaks the function of an entire console AND damages every single company that makes any form of media for the console in question will probably be hunted down, or at the very least made impossible to use.

I don't remember signing a contract when I bought my laptop computer, or my Magic Bullet, or my Nintendo DS, and I doubt anyone who bought a PS3 will remember signing any contract either.

Modifying something without permission of the owner is illegal? Yeah, that makes sense. Modifying something without permission of the guy who sold it to you is illegal? Yeah...I don't think so.

Also, what about the Xbox Media Centre? Sure it was just a matter of unlocking already existent code, but it was still a mod.

Now, I agree it's wrong, this whole piracy thing, but it's certainly not illegal.

I'm reminded of certain states where the age of consent (for sex) is 18 and there are no closeness in age exemptions. Two 16 year olds have sex, they could be charged with raping each other. Unlikely that would happen, but the fact that they could be is disgusting.

 

[gphjr14]

Thats what happens when you make online play free, it attracts hax0rs.

X box been charging for online and I seen torrents for their games all the time. Honestly the files for these games are so big people are probably better off just buying the game.

Whats funny is all the people that are gonna mess up their controllers and consoles in an attempt to get free games.

If Sony was smart they'd do like satellite companies do with those bootleg subscription cards, periodically send a signal out that fries consoles/controllers that have the modifications in it.

 

[Jumplion]

I don't remember signing a contract when I bought my laptop computer, or my Magic Bullet, or my Nintendo DS, and I doubt anyone who bought a PS3 will remember signing any contract either.

Erm, EULA [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EULA]? Terms of Service [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Service]? You know, those things that nobody reads because they're way too long to sift through and just sign/hit "I accept these terms of conditions" or something without a second thought? Yeah, those things.

Just wanted to clear that up.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

Thats what happens when you make online play free, it attracts hax0rs.

X box been charging for online and I seen torrents for their games all the time. Honestly the files for these games are so big people are probably better off just buying the game.

Whats funny is all the people that are gonna mess up their controllers and consoles in an attempt to get free games.

If Sony was smart they'd do like satellite companies do with those bootleg subscription cards, periodically send a signal out that fries consoles/controllers that have the modifications in it.

Oh of course there are Xbox hackers, but they tend to get left in the dust soon as MS figures out its a hacked box. Nothing like having the XBL banhammer come crashing down. I dislike console pirates, they remind me of how many people think they're entitled to get everything for free.
I'd love to see Sony/MS figure a way to kill the bios/firmware on these hacked machines and make them unusable. Yes, I support "greedy" corporations cuz I believe people deserve to get paid for their hard work and I would consider console/video game creation hard work. Also, investors deserve a profit return if its a well placed investment.

 

[oktalist]

I am American, your shenanigans are fine so long as they don't directly affect me.

Are those two statements related?

 

[WorkerMurphey]

I am American, your shenanigans are fine so long as they don't directly affect me.

Are those two statements related?

I was going for the foreign policy angle - causes of American involvement in WW2 and lack of involvement in issues that have less effect - genocide in countries like Rwanda and Sudan.

 

[teh_Canape]

brilliant, but really, people should really stop trying to hack the ps3, or shit will hit the fan with sony


refer to Critical Miss n34 panel 5

honestly guys, I'm about to get my own ps3 in 2 months and I dont wanna see that I wont even be able to play games =P

 

[BlackWidower]

I don't remember signing a contract when I bought my laptop computer, or my Magic Bullet, or my Nintendo DS, and I doubt anyone who bought a PS3 will remember signing any contract either.

Erm, EULA [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EULA]? Terms of Service [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Service]? You know, those things that nobody reads because they're way too long to sift through and just sign/hit "I accept these terms of conditions" or something without a second thought? Yeah, those things.

Just wanted to clear that up.

Has any court actually supported the legality of EULAs? From what I hear they haven't. Just because you say something is legally binding doesn't mean it is.

Now, as for terms of service. I thought we were talking about hardware. What service? The online service? Well then if they don't sign up for the online service then you have nothing.