PS3 Cracked With Modded Controller

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BlackWidower

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teh_Canape said:
brilliant, but really, people should really stop trying to hack the ps3, or shit will hit the fan with sony


refer to Critical Miss n34 panel 5

honestly guys, I'm about to get my own ps3 in 2 months and I dont wanna see that I wont even be able to play games =P
Don't bother, just get a kick ass gaming PC, that's where we're all heading anyways.
 

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amaranth_dru said:
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amaranth_dru said:
Thats what happens when you make online play free, it attracts hax0rs.
X box been charging for online and I seen torrents for their games all the time. Honestly the files for these games are so big people are probably better off just buying the game.

Whats funny is all the people that are gonna mess up their controllers and consoles in an attempt to get free games.

If Sony was smart they'd do like satellite companies do with those bootleg subscription cards, periodically send a signal out that fries consoles/controllers that have the modifications in it.
Oh of course there are Xbox hackers, but they tend to get left in the dust soon as MS figures out its a hacked box. Nothing like having the XBL banhammer come crashing down. I dislike console pirates, they remind me of how many people think they're entitled to get everything for free.
I'd love to see Sony/MS figure a way to kill the bios/firmware on these hacked machines and make them unusable. Yes, I support "greedy" corporations cuz I believe people deserve to get paid for their hard work and I would consider console/video game creation hard work. Also, investors deserve a profit return if its a well placed investment.
Wait, does Microsoft simply ban pirates from Xbox Live? I thought they brick your console remotely.
 

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ravenshrike said:
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Well...there's a line between modifying your own property and infringing on copyright....unless you're modding your ps3, then there's no copying being done, sooo....what's the big deal here?
Both groups (sony and the hackers) are within their rights here.
Hackers are really not within their rights. Hacking a PS3 has NOTHING to do with copyright, but it is tampering with a registered and protected product, modifying without the patentee's consent.
It's highly illegal, and if they bother taking it to court, Sony'll win so fast that the hacker'll wish they'd just got a sunday job and saved up £300, instead of the thousands the court fees'll cost.
Er, what? No, just no. At least, not in the US. You buy a physical product in the US you can modify it in any way that doesn't turn it into a firearm.
IT'S WHAT I'M SAYING! Canada too!

You know, thinking about it, it might be illegal in other countries, you know, the ones who hate freedom, and individual consumer rights.
 

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BlackWidower said:
Don't bother, just get a kick ass gaming PC, that's where we're all heading anyways.
I already have one, but it's not the same, I do want the ps3 =P
 

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teh_Canape said:
BlackWidower said:
Don't bother, just get a kick ass gaming PC, that's where we're all heading anyways.
I already have one, but it's not the same, I do want the ps3 =P
Okay, honest question, I'm not trying to troll or anything, but what exactly isn't the same? Is it the controls? You know you can just get a Bluetooth dongle and pair it up with a DualShock3 right?

I mean I assume. The thing does use Bluetooth.
 

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BlackWidower said:
Okay, honest question, I'm not trying to troll or anything, but what exactly isn't the same? Is it the controls? You know you can just get a Bluetooth dongle and pair it up with a DualShock3 right?

I mean I assume. The thing does use Bluetooth.
idk, it's just the feeling of getting something truly on my own, see, I was gonna buy with my own money, instead of asking for it =P

it's pretty personal
 

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Microsoft's approach is simplicity itself, which is why Sony's looking at copying it. Sometimes a simple checksum is all you need.
 

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Personally Im a fan of the idea that if someone hacks your console, you should legally be allowed to break the internals via code or something, thus rendering the system useless. Hard to do, but it would send a message.

I give my kudos to Sony for making it this far, but trying to win a battle against hackers is just not possible. Its a losing battle; they will ALWAYS find a way to beat you.

The best you can do is massive purges *points to Microsoft* of people violating your rules.

Or make the USB hack/controller explode. SHOW THOSE HACKERS
 

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Hackers will be hackers, the only thing that annoys me is Sony over reaction surely they have enough money to bribe/hire/put a hit on anyone who breaks their system.

I never installed linux on my ps3 but I was intrigued by the idea and I did'nt like that option being removed from me.

I'd love to see what homebrew software could be made to run on a ps3 maybe things sony never thought of. I don't think I'd be bothered with pirated games I like to show off my collection
 

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Oh good, so now we lose USB ports and Dualshock 3 controllers. I hope everyone really likes Move because that's going to be the only controller supported by PS3s soon. :p
 

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That little science nerd in me finds Sony's arms race against piracy increadibly interesting and wants to read more news about it.
 

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Jumplion said:
BlackWidower said:
I don't remember signing a contract when I bought my laptop computer, or my Magic Bullet, or my Nintendo DS, and I doubt anyone who bought a PS3 will remember signing any contract either.
Erm, EULA [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EULA]? Terms of Service [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_Service]? You know, those things that nobody reads because they're way too long to sift through and just sign/hit "I accept these terms of conditions" or something without a second thought? Yeah, those things.

Just wanted to clear that up.
I understand that with the PS3, you have to update your system/version if the system detects an update. Now, as far as I'm aware, the ToS doesnt have anything against the modifications of a system.

Think about it this way: I have a Launch PS3, which has a ridiculously small harddrive compared to the PS3 Slim. I want to upgrade my capacity without losing my backwards compatability, so therefore I decide to replace the hard drive with a larger one. This in itself is modding the console, and yet is perfectly legal to do. On an even larger scale, let's say that I want to put a 360 inside my computer. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.230867-Ridiculous-Gaming-PC-Stuffs-Xbox-360-Into-the-Case-as-Well] In this example, I've completely cannibalized and freaking franeknstein'd it into my computer. And yet, in your example, this would prevent me from accessing the features of the system.

Now, while there is the definite "Those are simple, this is a piracy mod" argument to be made here, there is very little difference in modifying your console in such a way that you would be infringing upon some sort of EULA or ToS that will prevent you from playing games. That's one of the big things about the games industry: if we buy something, we are somehow not owners of that property. Even though we have the system, have paid full retail value for it, and have installed it in our own home, it's still the property of someone else.

Does anyone else see the issue in this? I recognize the need for a way to curb piracy, but outright banning the modification of a console is something that I would find to be a little bit nerve wracking.
 

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http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/09/25/1922244/PS3-Hacked-Using-Official-Controller


Many thanks to all the people who use their time, so that I can use my own hardware the way I want to!

Sony removed OtherOS citing worries about piracy, despite the fact that the system was uncracked after years of OtherOS inclusion.

Very shortly after its removal, various groups publicly announced their intention to crack the system specifically because of the OtherOS removal. They very quickly succeeded, and now Sony is going to have to live with nearly instant cracks of every version of their firmware because they riled up the wrong people. Piracy is now trivial on the PS3, with the usual caveat of no online multiplayer, all thanks to some executives irrational fear of at the time nonexistent pirates.

It's a pity that the executive in question will probably be rewarded because the current rise in piracy proves that he was right about the menace of game copiers in the first place!
 

joshuaayt

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Just offer jobs to every hacker who successfully beats your system. They can help make it stronger against their specific approach, and the system will eventually become fool proof! (Until that next thing comes along, which it inevitably will, because attempting to make a system of any sort hack-proof is laughably naive, and the way Sony is going about this appears not dissimilar to using chopsticks to slowly and carefully remove every single ant from a nest)
Everybody wins!
 

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spectrenihlus said:
Sony just can't win. It's kind of funny.
Yeah, heh. No matter what they try to do someone is always goingto design some form of work about around what they have done XD
 

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ae86gamer said:
Also, wouldn't banning them be kinda pointless? People can just make a new PSN name for free anyways. :/
True, which is why the console itself would be banned altogether, as well as the PSN name, which would suck if that person had bought things from the Store in the past.
 

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Pingieking said:
Meh. I'm impressed that the PS3 hasn't been fully hacked/modded this far into its life cycle. I don't think any console in the last two generations have lasted this long.

But hackers will hack, so Sony probably shouldn't be chasing full tilt after it. It might actually be better to let the hacks sit for a bit, then hit them all at once with a big update, while banning them from PSN in the meantime.
Yeah.. I agree, make them think they got it all then BLAM! Access denied, ps3 will malfunction and set your house on fire!
 

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You have to understand that hackers will exist, no matter what. Their only goal is to further their knowledge. Unfortunately, Pirates rely on hackers to illegally gain what they don't really own... Sony releases patches to fix exploits the hackers made, which the Pirates use to obtain stuff illegally. In reality, the fix is intended on Pirates. Although without the hackers, the system's exploits are going to remain undiscovered, so I guess it's a healthy relationship in one way... Unfortunately, the burden outweighs the benefits...
 

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MGlBlaze said:
You know it's actually pretty funny; I remember reading a comic (I think it was on this site no less) that actually made a parody where Sony disables the controllers. I can't actually find it any more but;

They fucking called it.
Even if it was intended as a joke.

I'm not sure if that's frightening or hilarious.
It was on here in fact, one of the recent Critical Miss'.

I read about this on a certain site, and I thought it was genius, but then I read here that it requires hardware modifications, which is slightly less genius (I originaly thought that they were going to input new information into the EEPROM of the controller, like the Pandora Batteries)