PS3 Mass Effect 2 Workaround Revealed, Patch in the Works

[squid5580]

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There are always going to be lazy developers who don't playtest properly, Obsidian in particular (Kotor 2, Fallout New Vegas) has been on my shit-list for a while, you know that giant patch that came out for New Vegas that fixed most of the glitches? That came from the publisher Bethesda, they couldn't even be bothered to clean up their own mess.

While there are plenty of games where the amount of bugs is unacceptable, the important thing to remember is that it is impossible to find them all, and you need to keep a reasonable mindset about what exactly is acceptable since perfection is impossible.

For me, the two things that I believe make a bug unacceptable is:

1.) It's easy to find
2.) It's easy to fix

The dexterity bug you mentioned meets both criteria, so that was clearly an oversight. One bug in particular that pissed me off was that in Fable 3, I was a white man, I married a white woman, and we had an incredibly dark skinned child. It turns out the skin color of babies in Fable 3 is COMPLETELY RANDOMIZED. I could literally fix this myself in 5 minutes, given that colors are expressed numerically, all you would need to do is add the values of each parent's skin color and divide by 2 to get the color of the baby, hell, that would probably be EASIER than setting up a system to randomize it.

So yeah, I completely agree that there are plenty of unacceptable development standards out there, and there are an unreasonable amount of games that don't make the cut, but it's important to not set your standards at perfection.

See to me the Fable example is not a bug or a glitch. But I do understand where you are coming from with it. To you it breaks the immersion but to me I would simply justify it as my virtual wife is a whore. Then I would kill her.

And it isn't that I expect perfection in a game. 20 years of gaming has taught me that it isn't going to happen in my lifetime. It just seems we gamers as a whole have allowed them to lower their standards while at the same time raising their prices. Then we excuse it by saying things like well game development is hard and well if they were to fix it pre launch the game would be delayed. The patching system is great don't get me wrong. It beats the alternative where if a bug does slip by to bad so sad. But it just seems instead of it being used in an emergency situation it is now being abused to get the game out asap. Which is great short term thinking but in the long run it is going to turn gamers jaded against pre ordering, buying on launch day ect. We shouldn't feel stupid for buying a game new on release day. But far to often that is the feeling we get left with.

You know, people say that's not supposed to be a glitch, but I don't buy it. Fable III is nothing if not subtle in its humor, every funny thing is shoved in your face, if they wanted my wife to have had a child with someone else, he would be hanging around, and it would be a sidequest or something.

I beg to differ. Why should you be able to get your revenge on an innocent victim? He owes you nothing. He didn't betray you. He got what he wanted and escaped while you have to pick up the tab. Plus if you were banging some super heroe's old lady would you stick around afterwards? I mean you can kill him with a flick of your finger. If I was him the far side of the planet wouldn't far enough away. Let alone hanging around outside your door.

You are making me think I didn't give Fable 3 a fair shake and should try it again lol. Realism at it's finest IMHO. lol.

I didn't necessarily say you would kill him, just that they would emphasize it and there would be a side quest or something, who knows, maybe it would be an investigation side quest.

I can't believe you are forcing me to use the "I" word but that is where your imagination comes in. It shouldn't have to be a "sidequest" given to you by the game. A developer (especially for an RPG like Fable) shouldn't have to give you a sidequest like that. You should be roleplaying it. It is your character, your story. if you got a prompt saying "you slew the guy who impregnated your wife hooray" would take something away from the game. I don't think it is a bad thing that a game allows or even forces the player to use their imagination for something like that. It is why I think it is intentional and not a bug. Especially since like you said it would be easier for them to not randomize it.

I could understand it being immersion-breaking if you rolled a female character and slept with white guys and had a black baby.

For any other game I would agree, but have you played Fable III? If a guy slips on a banana peel, they tell you nine times, and much it a fucking six hour questline.

The only reason I think it's a glitch is because they always go to a ridiculous extent to avoid subtlety and shove every joke in your face.

I have but I am really not that far into it. I got bored of it really fast. Like I'm not quite out of the tutorial fast. I just have a backlog of more exciting games to play right now.

 

[Mikeyfell]

wow Bioware's usual response to data corrupting bugs is to lock every thread that asks for a patch.
I lost over 60 hours in Dragon Age Origins and when I went on the Bioware social site to find out what the fuck happened all I found were 10 locked threads from people who had the same problem.