PSP Is Go!

[Erebu]

Then again, I'm regarding this as the next PSP and not a PSP upgrade... Besides, we're talking about a company that seems to not care much about BC.

But it isn't. People fail to realise that this "thing" is nothing less than a PSP. This is NOT a PSP2!
Ohhh... I see I guess you are one of those who argue about the PS3 BC?
Well you have voted with your wallet that's why there is no BC in PS3 anymore.
It is not because a company didn't care... it's because gamers demanded a lower price!

 

[scotth266]

But it isn't. People fail to realise that this "thing" is nothing less than a PSP. This is NOT a PSP2!
Ohhh... I see I guess you are one of those who argue about the PS3 BC?
Well you have voted with your wallet that's why there is no BC in PS3 anymore.
It is not because a company didn't care... it's because gamers demanded a lower price!

This is supposed to be drastically different than the previous PSP. Hence, I regard it as a successor rather than a upgrade...

And I say pffft. I would have gotten a PS3 regardless of price if it had BC, I didn't buy one immediately because the launch titles were mostly blah. I was waiting until a mass of good titles had accumulated, and the inevitable price drop had occured.

 

[Erebu]

This is supposed to be drastically different than the previous PSP. Hence, I regard it as a successor rather than a upgrade...

And I say pffft. I would have gotten a PS3 regardless of price if it had BC, I didn't buy one immediately because the launch titles were mostly blah. I was waiting until a mass of good titles had accumulated, and the inevitable price drop had occured.

How is this drastically different? The development-process it is the same because it is still the same architecture. The only thing that changed is the distribution channel hence the loss of UMD. Why else will the PSP3000 still be available? The PSPgo is a tool to slowly and carefully convert people towards digital distribution nothing else. The real change will be the PSP2 but it's time hasn't arrived yet.
Seriously... this internet-anger/drama is unneccessary and pointless because there is no drama and nothing to be angry about.

PS: About PS3... you do realise that the pricedrop was only possible because of the loss of several features? And yet they still don't break even!

 

[scotth266]

Snip!

I'd regard the change in format as a drastic change... Look at it from my point of veiw: the Gameboy and the Gameboy Color were basically the same thing, but with a different cartridge format. Yet the Color is regarded as the Gameboy's successor.

I know that the Color also came with a lot more processing power, but I'm trying to make a point here. The point being that the PSP Go is radically different than it's predecessor. They might as well have added a second stick while they were at it...

Also: All consoles drop in price eventually, regardless of whether or not things get cut. That's the price cut I was waiting for. Instead, they cut BC, and lost me as a customer.
At least until they put it back again...

 

[IrrelevantTangent]

Meh, I'm sorry, but this seems like a bit of a money grab, don't you think? Yes, it has new features, and I salute Sony for improving on their design, but I wouldn't spend another $200 just to get the same system with a few new features. *shrugs*

But then again, I'm not a PSP owner and I only own a PS2 as far as Sony vidjagame systems go, so take what I say in stride.

 

[scotth266]

But then again, I'm not a PSP owner and I only own a PS2 as far as Sony vidjagame systems go, so take what I say in stride.

PS2: Still better than modern-day systems at times.

I mean, goddamn. When I look back at what that baby could run.... Mmmmm.

The only thing it lacked was some really good online support.

 

[Erebu]

Snip!

I'd regard the change in format as a drastic change... Look at it from my point of veiw: the Gameboy and the Gameboy Color were basically the same thing, but with a different cartridge format. Yet the Color is regarded as the Gameboy's successor.

I know that the Color also came with a lot more processing power, but I'm trying to make a point here. The point being that the PSP Go is radically different than it's predecessor. They might as well have added a second stick while they were at it...

Also: All consoles drop in price eventually, regardless of whether or not things get cut. That's the price cut I was waiting for. Instead, they cut BC, and lost me as a customer.
At least until they put it back again...

I am sorry I still can't agree.
The GBC was twice as fast as the GB and games designed for GBC couldn't be used on old GB units.
What about the PSPgo? As much as I can see the hardware is still the same. DLC will work on both hence the PSP is upwards compatible whereas the PSPgo can't play UMDs directly, something we have never had before (as much as I know)! I hope we will see a solution for people with UMDs. Some kind of conversion-plan has to exist. If not, then I can and will agree with everyone labeling it as a failure.

Referring the second analog stick. People tend to forget that the only thing they had to do in the PS1 era was spending money on a new controller and not a new console. The difference here is that if you would want to enjoy your new "second analog controller game" you would have to buy a new handheld. I really doubt people would like to do something like this. It would only create all kind of "Sony betrayed the PSP install base" posts on the boards and nothing else. But as I have already mentioned if they have no UMD transfer solution then... see above.

 

[scotth266]

Snip.

Eh, whatever. You have your view, I have mine: it's really just a tomatoe, tomatoh debate.

With regards to the second stick: your argument confuses me. Why would they be betraying the customers by giving them what they want? All the people I know that own PSP's have told me that they would like a second stick... Then again, that assumes that you're looking at the sucession thing from my point of view. I see the decision to not include the second stick as stupid, because if they announce this at E3, the "next" PSP (going from your view here) will likely not be released for a while.

 

[Erebu]

Snip.

Eh, whatever. You have your view, I have mine: it's really just a tomatoe, tomatoh debate.

With regards to the second stick: your argument confuses me. Why would they be betraying the customers by giving them what they want? All the people I know that own PSP's have told me that they would like a second stick... Then again, that assumes that you're looking at the sucession thing from my point of view. I see the decision to not include the second stick as stupid, because if they announce this at E3, the "next" PSP (going from your view here) will likely not be released for a while.

Well for example this story...

"Tommy has a PSP3000 that he loves. He spent his hard saved money to get one and his favourite game is "Resistance Retribution".
Sony announces PSPGo with a second analog stick and Resistance Retribution 2 as the game that supports it.
RR2 has no RR controls and won't get it later as a patch... hence Tommy would have to buy a new PSPgo.
Tommy is very angry... all he can think of is posting on NEOGAF and releasing his rage. He sells his Sony consoles and hails Microsoft/Nintendo.
The End... Epilogue: Sony cries a river"

Well actually I think the GO is a test/conversion model for Sony. They used the Mylo design and the PSP hardware. It seems like they haven't spent much on R&D for it. My guess is depending on the success of the Go we could see the real new PSP hence the PSP2 in two years maybe even next E3. As they have stated their main goal is to become profitable. I guess that is the reason why they are so cautious with their design choices.

 

[scotth266]

Snip.

That Tommy example really doesn't make much sense. By that logic, there would be no fans of Nintendo handhelds at all...

I understand where you're going with this: that Sony might be afraid of ticking people off by making a new handheld at this point. Give me a moment to check something.

EDIT: It's been four years since the PSP was released. The timeframe from Gameboy Color to the GBA? Three years.

So yeah, I don't think that there's any need to keep the old one going. Sony can bring in a new one now, and it wouldn't piss the customers off.

 

[sorry user name taken.]

I'm shocked.....


that's all I'm saying...

 

[IrrelevantTangent]

But then again, I'm not a PSP owner and I only own a PS2 as far as Sony vidjagame systems go, so take what I say in stride.

PS2: Still better than modern-day systems at times.

I mean, goddamn. When I look back at what that baby could run.... Mmmmm.

The only thing it lacked was some really good online support.

Oh, Persona series, no one can ever know of our forbidden love.

 

[Erebu]

Snip.

That Tommy example really doesn't make much sense. By that logic, there would be no fans of Nintendo handhelds at all...

I understand where you're going with this: that Sony might be afraid of ticking people off by making a new handheld at this point. Give me a moment to check something.

EDIT: It's been four years since the PSP was released. From Gameboy Color to the GBA? Three.

So yeah, I don't think that there's any need to keep the old one going. Sony can bring in a new one now, and it wouldn't piss the customers off.

Sony have opened "pandora's internet-box" with their "arrogancy" and bad PR. I simply don't think that they are in the same position as Nintendo.
Take a look at their balance sheet and the state of their gaming division.
Also from a business standpoint it would be very bad timing because PSP is their best selling platform at the moment.
I am sure they have looked into sales-trends and unless the curve of projected-sales goes down they won't release a PSP2.
I can also see them learning from Nintendo and Apple ( releasing small incremental iterations of an exististing hardware ).
It's intelligent from a business standpoint especially if you consider the current economic climate. As a gamer of course it is not exactly what I was expecting and asking for.
But being half gamer and half economist I can live with the result and understand the motives behind it.

 

[scotth266]

Oh, Persona series, no one can ever know of our forbidden love.

Is that a reference to Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged?

And don't forget Okami and Shadow of the Colossus... oh yeah.

 

[IrrelevantTangent]

Oh, Persona series, no one can ever know of our forbidden love.

Is that a reference to Yu-Gi-Oh Abridged?

And don't forget Okami and Shadow of the Colossus... oh yeah.

My hair postulates this is the most likely answer!

 

[Bigsmith]

Well dispite the Veiw every one else is having on this, I like it. The single nub worked fine on the old PsP, God of war was 3d and worked fine. The only problem I'm gonna have is that you need large hands to play on this.

 

[-Seraph-]

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Despite your efforts they wont listen. I've explained time and time again why you can't just throw a second stick onto there and be done with it, but no one listens, no one logically sees how bad of an idea it is.

 

[irrelevantnugget]

That looks horrible. Like they're ripping off the Game Boy Advance SP or whatever it was called.

I'd say they're ripping off blackberries, at least the SP had your screen scratch-safe when you clapped it closed.

Right now I just have this 'oh wow' feeling. They've only just released the 3000, and they're already planning a new version? One that can't even read UMD's? So now what, you have to buy all the games you already have?

On the other hand, I just hope they won't pull that pricing shit on us again. You know. Asking 20 USD for a game, then 20 EUR for that same game (thus being loads more expensive) if you live in Euroland.

 

[BioHazard19]

Does anyone else think that the PSP Go looks like a black DS with rounded edges?

 

[-Seraph-]

Does anyone else think that the PSP Go looks like a black DS with rounded edges?

Pretty much, and yet...people can't help but complain and say it's ugly. Just so damn confusing.