PSPNoGo

[ChromeAlchemist]

Nintendo and Sony have switched places in this current console generation. Nintendo thought that the popularity of the N64 would continue on with the GC, but the PS2 was better in pretty much every way except when it came to not breaking when you dropped it. Nintendo realised that they had been lazy and got to work. Sony needs to realise this, but it seems like they haven't, at least not yet.

The PSP is amazingly succesful, especially considering the last real competitor in the handheld market was the Gamegear. Staying in the market for more than a year, and staying competitive, at that, shows that Sony knows how to design a handheld. There were/are problems, but there always are. What they don't have a good grasp on is why people upgrade. Sony appears to be thinking that people will buy the lastest tech just because it is new, so they didn't really put a lot of effort into distinguishing the PSPGo from the PSP. The DS and DSi have one major difference: digital distribution. Sure, it can't play GBA games, but you can't be backwards compatable for everything. The PSPGo just offers more of what you already have if you own a PSP, so there is no real reason to buy a PSPGo if you don't feel the desire to have the absolute latest tech out there.

Interesting. I will say from the start though that the PS2 was not better than the GC technically, but was definitely better marketed when it came to their software (something Nintendo seem to have learned from, their marketing of the GC and it's games was appalling, which is odd considering the good job they did for the 64 and it's titles).

The PSP in no way can be considered a failure, and in terms of surviving in a Nintendo dominated market (like you said, the last one to do that was the Gamegear) it's done more than that and established a foothold, but it probably never has any hope of being market leader (which matters not for us, but definitely does for Sony).

Their talk of digital distribution, while technically a good idea to deal with the problem of piracy and used games (which is the reason I see it being implemented), is something they should have saved for a successor console, because anyone who wants to pirate games just won't buy this.

As for the ones who don't own a PSP, there is still no reason unless you are a tech hound, like you said, but even then there is less incentive to buy it at the price they are asking, and that is definitely what I think it boils down to, especially considering the cheaper manufacturing cost. Look at the original price of the PSP, and the sales hardly skyrocketed. I can't see this doing any different.

 

[Jumplion]

It was simple, came across very "simple" I know. But face the facts and think real hard.
MWUAH! <3

I fail to see how that pointless, and trollish I may add, comment made on a thread meant to discuss the article that is about the "PSP Go!" was in any way warranted at all. Please, in future topics, please refrain from posting non-constructive posts that in no way helps discussion. You like the 360? Great, post it in a thread about the damn thing.

 

[randommaster]

Nintendo and Sony have switched places in this current console generation. Nintendo thought that the popularity of the N64 would continue on with the GC, but the PS2 was better in pretty much every way except when it came to not breaking when you dropped it. Nintendo realised that they had been lazy and got to work. Sony needs to realise this, but it seems like they haven't, at least not yet.

The PSP is amazingly succesful, especially considering the last real competitor in the handheld market was the Gamegear. Staying in the market for more than a year, and staying competitive, at that, shows that Sony knows how to design a handheld. There were/are problems, but there always are. What they don't have a good grasp on is why people upgrade. Sony appears to be thinking that people will buy the lastest tech just because it is new, so they didn't really put a lot of effort into distinguishing the PSPGo from the PSP. The DS and DSi have one major difference: digital distribution. Sure, it can't play GBA games, but you can't be backwards compatable for everything. The PSPGo just offers more of what you already have if you own a PSP, so there is no real reason to buy a PSPGo if you don't feel the desire to have the absolute latest tech out there.

Interesting. I will say from the start though that the PS2 was not better than the GC technically, but was definitely better marketed when it came to their software (something Nintendo seem to have learned from, their marketing of the GC and it's games was appalling, which is odd considering the good job they did for the 64 and it's titles).

The PSP in no way can be considered a failure, and in terms of surviving in a Nintendo dominated market (like you said, the last one to do that was the Gamegear) it's done more than that and established a foothold, but it probably never has any hope of being market leader (which matters not for us, but definitely does for Sony).

Their talk of digital distribution, while technically a good idea to deal with the problem of piracy and used games (which is the reason I see it being implemented), is something they should have saved for a successor console, because anyone who wants to pirate games just won't buy this.

As for the ones who don't own a PSP, there is still no reason unless you are a tech hound, like you said, but even then there is less incentive to buy it at the price they are asking, and that is definitely what I think it boils down to, especially considering the cheaper manufacturing cost. Look at the original price of the PSP, and the sales hardly skyrocketed. I can't see this doing any different.

There is also the fact that there is very little difference between PSP and PSPGo, so the price increase hardly seems worth it. If the prices had been comparable, then you would have to decide if backwards compatability was what you want. This is what is happening with the DSi, you can either play GBA games, or get digital distribution.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

It reminds me of the Gameboy Micro. That didn't last long.

 

[bodyklok]

It reminds me of the Gameboy Micro. That didn't last long.

Still better than the Virtual Boy though.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

It reminds me of the Gameboy Micro. That didn't last long.

Still better than the Virtual Boy though.

Lol! I'm going to go look that up. (I have never heard of it)

 

[bodyklok]

It reminds me of the Gameboy Micro. That didn't last long.

Still better than the Virtual Boy though.

Lol! I'm going to go look that up. (I have never heard of it)

I've got a link here [http://www.gametrailers.com/video/angry-video-screwattack/30755] if you want it.

 

[dirk45]

See there isn't a problem with making a handheld for core gamers, their is a problem with making a handheld for core gamers and marketing it against something which aims to be popular and trendy like the iPhone.

I think that today there is a problem with making a handheld for pro gamers. And the problem is that more and more pro gamers and others have access to a hand held gaming device where lots of good and bad games are available - the mobile phone (not only the iPhone). Virtually every mobile phone has the option to play games, organize dates, surf on the internet (more or less), etc. Additionally there are the netbooks where you have lots of old PC games available, often for a cheap price.
I think the number people that buy a handheld for gaming are dwindling, just because there are more and more other options available. And even hardcore gamers don't buy a handheld for a special game. They would do it with a console, but not with a handheld.

I see this announcement as a mind trick - they don't have the best, but they have the newest. My guess is that it won't help them gain market dominance.

 

[irrelevantnugget]

Sony however, is being retarded. They've only just released a second revision, and they already announce a third.

Wrong. PSP GO would be the 4th revision (1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series and now the PSP GO)

You're dumb.
The 2000 series is the first REvision. REvision. REvision. REvision. Got it?

 

[Erebu]

1. Yes you can get more apps on iTunes for your less money. But what about quality? Do you get a Chains of Olympus like quality game for 0.99 USD or even 5 USD? I doubt it. So please don't put games like Patapon on the same level as Doodle Jump or Peggle.

2. Have you ever considered that the price is because of a bigger margin for the retail? You have to give the retail a reason to sell the PSPgo! As much as I remember the retail nor the music industry were happy when music turned digital. Do you think they are happy about the PSPgo?

But don't worry it seams that the PSPgo is getting it's own "appstore". Oh and last time I checked the PSPgo or its appstore aren't even out, so how about waiting with critique?

 

[Jumplion]

Check this out [http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-sony-to-unveil-pspgo-apps-small-games-at-gamescom-135846.phtml]

Depending on how accurate this is, I think this article addresses everything this one says. I'm hoping this won't be drowned in the comments.

 

[Jumplion]

But don't worry it seams that the PSPgo is getting it's own "appstore". Oh and last time I checked the PSPgo or its appstore aren't even out, so how about waiting with critique?

You are correct, according to Destructiod [http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-sony-to-unveil-pspgo-apps-small-games-at-gamescom-135846.phtml] they'll be selling non-games ranging from free to 6 dollars or so.

Seems interesting, though I'd like to know more.

 

[Erebu]

But don't worry it seams that the PSPgo is getting it's own "appstore". Oh and last time I checked the PSPgo or its appstore aren't even out, so how about waiting with critique?

You are correct, according to Destructiod [http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-sony-to-unveil-pspgo-apps-small-games-at-gamescom-135846.phtml] they'll be selling non-games ranging from free to 6 dollars or so.

Seems interesting, though I'd like to know more.

Well, I hope they make their appstore available to everyone. If they do it could turn into a indie-paradise.

 

[Jumplion]

Well, I hope they make their appstore available to everyone. If they do it could turn into a indie-paradise.

If this rumour turns out to be true, I think we can call the PSP a Go now, according to the articlist.

 

[Erebu]

I agree and I believe the production of the 3000 could end this year.

 

[Jumplion]

I agree and I believe the production of the 3000 could end this year.

Well, Sony have stated that they're not going to discontinue the 3000 model and continue to support both of them.

If the PSP app store turns out to be true, and if it does get proper support and interesting games, then the PSP Go is a definite buy for me.

 

[PS2MAN]

You're dumb.
The 2000 series is the first REvision. REvision. REvision. REvision. Got it?

No, but you are a retard got it? Anything after the first ever test model counts as a Revision, so the 1K Series is the first revision of the handheld that was released. PSP GO would be the 4th released revision.

 

[irrelevantnugget]

You're dumb.
The 2000 series is the first REvision. REvision. REvision. REvision. Got it?

No, but you are a retard got it? Anything after the first ever test model counts as a Revision, so the 1K Series is the first revision of the handheld that was released. PSP GO would be the 4th released revision.

Wrong. PSP GO would be the 4th revision (1000 Series, 2000 Series, 3000 Series and now the PSP GO)

Can you even count?
Was there a PSP-0000? No. The PSP-1000 was the first version that was released. Anything after that is a REvision.

Just like the GBA had 2 revisions, the GBA SP and the GB Micro.
Unless you mean to imply that the GB and GBC were earlier versions of the GBA (even though they're from different console generations). And even then you're wrong, because the PSP-1000 was the first handheld Sony ever released.

 

[Jumplion]

Can you even count?
Was there a PSP-0000? No. The PSP-1000 was the first version that was released. Anything after that is a REvision.

Just like the GBA had 2 revisions, the GBA SP and the GB Micro.
Unless you mean to imply that the GB and GBC were earlier versions of the GBA (even though they're from different console generations). And even then you're wrong, because the PSP-1000 was the first handheld Sony ever released.

Well, technically it was the Pocket Station [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocket_station] but I see your point.

 

[PS2MAN]

Can you even count?
Was there a PSP-0000? No. The PSP-1000 was the first version that was released. Anything after that is a REvision.

Just like the GBA had 2 revisions, the GBA SP and the GB Micro.
Unless you mean to imply that the GB and GBC were earlier versions of the GBA (even though they're from different console generations). And even then you're wrong, because the PSP-1000 was the first handheld Sony ever released.

Can you even read? A revision is anything after the very first model, that model does not have to be released to the public, The PSP 1K series are the second revision, but the First PSP to be released.

Example if DNF ever appears it will be on at lest its 2rd revision, just because the other 2 prior were not released publicly it does not mean they do not count.