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Megacherv

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Jumplion said:
Megacherv said:
erm...just a note here. Kaz Hirai said that the PSP Go would sell for the same price as the PSP-1000 did at launch. Your apparent $350 (or £350 if that's what you meant) can't be true for 2 reasons:

A) The PSP-1000 launch price was £180
B) The price in Europe will be the same in the US, ?250, which is actually about £210.

I still think they'll stick with £180 as that was the PSP-1000's launch price if I'm correct, please point out if I'm not.
They've stated that the PSP Go! will cost $250 and 250 Euros at launch, which does seem a bit high for my tastes, though I'm still considering spending it.
I will, since I need a PSP since mine broke ages ago and this seems a lot more convenient since I travel on the train a lot, so I don't want to drag a huge bunch of UMDs with me.
 

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MY problem with the Go is, does it still support backwards compatability. Why buy a Go if I can't play my Super Robot Wars games on it?
That's what made me not want to upgrade, then I heard the price and I knew I didn't want to upgrade.

Say what you want about the ps3's price, at least it's worth the money. This pspgo however, wont be.
 

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GonzoGamer said:
Onmi said:
MY problem with the Go is, does it still support backwards compatability. Why buy a Go if I can't play my Super Robot Wars games on it?
That's what made me not want to upgrade, then I heard the price and I knew I didn't want to upgrade.

Say what you want about the ps3's price, at least it's worth the money. This pspgo however, wont be.
Don't quote me on this, but on the backwards compatability thing I've heard of the whole converter box that's supposed to be in retailers.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, wouldn't you need a memory stick to save games on your PSP? If that's the case, couldn't you just upload your games on the Go via the stick?
 

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Here's an idea Sony, someone earlier was talking about a PS2 emulator on the PSP. Well how about just making a portable PS2. Hire the people behind the PS2 emulator to create a OS and use the same hardware from the PS2 without a DVD drive. (By today's hardware standards, they could shrink the PS2 hardware again.) Put it in a PSP like case, and use PSN to download old PS2 game but charge like $5 a game maybe. Oh, and add a second control stick. Then sell it for like $100-150. Easy idea.
 

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Jumplion said:
GonzoGamer said:
Onmi said:
MY problem with the Go is, does it still support backwards compatability. Why buy a Go if I can't play my Super Robot Wars games on it?
That's what made me not want to upgrade, then I heard the price and I knew I didn't want to upgrade.

Say what you want about the ps3's price, at least it's worth the money. This pspgo however, wont be.
Don't quote me on this, but on the backwards compatability thing I've heard of the whole converter box that's supposed to be in retailers.

Also, if I'm not mistaken, wouldn't you need a memory stick to save games on your PSP? If that's the case, couldn't you just upload your games on the Go via the stick?
For the price of the go, it should come with a converter box/UMD ripper.
I'm pretty sure that there will be a slot for a memory card but one of the features of the Go is an internal hard drive. The card I think is just for extra space if you need/want it: optional.

The messed up thing is that this should've gone the other way around: they should've started the psp brand with an internal hard drive and later into a disc for the games/movies that would've taken too much space on the drive.
 

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SomeGuyNamedKy said:
Here's an idea Sony, someone earlier was talking about a PS2 emulator on the PSP. Well how about just making a portable PS2. Hire the people behind the PS2 emulator to create a OS and use the same hardware from the PS2 without a DVD drive. (By today's hardware standards, they could shrink the PS2 hardware again.) Put it in a PSP like case, and use PSN to download old PS2 game but charge like $5 a game maybe. Oh, and add a second control stick. Then sell it for like $100-150. Easy idea.
While I understand this idea to an extent, there's a huge flaw with this idea from the start. The PS2 is still profitable for Sony, so it would really make no sense to put a console/handheld that draws attention away from their single most successful platform. If they made a PSP with PS2 hardware, it would probably be too much effort to be worth it. Plus I don't really see it selling as well as you would put it, I don't know exactly why but I just don't think it would work.

TiteAce said:
What an outstanding insightfully constructive and brilliant comment to this thread.
 

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Jumplion said:
SomeGuyNamedKy said:
Here's an idea Sony, someone earlier was talking about a PS2 emulator on the PSP. Well how about just making a portable PS2. Hire the people behind the PS2 emulator to create a OS and use the same hardware from the PS2 without a DVD drive. (By today's hardware standards, they could shrink the PS2 hardware again.) Put it in a PSP like case, and use PSN to download old PS2 game but charge like $5 a game maybe. Oh, and add a second control stick. Then sell it for like $100-150. Easy idea.
While I understand this idea to an extent, there's a huge flaw with this idea from the start. The PS2 is still profitable for Sony, so it would really make no sense to put a console/handheld that draws attention away from their single most successful platform. If they made a PSP with PS2 hardware, it would probably be too much effort to be worth it. Plus I don't really see it selling as well as you would put it, I don't know exactly why but I just don't think it would work.[/quote]

Actually, the fact that the PS2 is still profitable is what drove me to this statement. Here's an example. Say you're playing Kingdom Hearts for the 1,000,000th time and you need to go somewhere. You could take your memory card from the PS2 and while you're there. You pull out the PS2 portable and resume from where you left off at home.

Edit: Damn, quote fail.
 

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SomeGuyNamedKy said:
Actually, the fact that the PS2 is still profitable is what drove me to this statement. Here's an example. Say you're playing Kingdom Hearts for the 1,000,000th time and you need to go somewhere. You could take your memory card from the PS2 and while you're there. You pull out the PS2 portable and resume from where you left off at home.

Edit: Damn, quote fail.
I like your idea, obviously, but I find it too impractical mainly for Sony to do such a thing. Making a PS2 emulator would probably be pretty expensive, PCs as far as I know still have yet to make a decent PS2 emulator if an emulator at all so who knows how expensive (and bulky) a PSPS2 (ho ho, I think I came up with a pun!) would be if it had PS2 hardware in it.
 

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I'm curious: does this do anything to stop the rampant PSP piracy scene? If so, then it's a smart move on Sony's part. If not, then the author is correct: it is a slap in the face.

I actually feel the same way about the Nintendo DSi. Can we <color=red>please get some new systems with improved graphics or features rather than just remakes of what we already have?!
 

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Jumplion said:
SomeGuyNamedKy said:
Here's an idea Sony, someone earlier was talking about a PS2 emulator on the PSP. Well how about just making a portable PS2. Hire the people behind the PS2 emulator to create a OS and use the same hardware from the PS2 without a DVD drive. (By today's hardware standards, they could shrink the PS2 hardware again.) Put it in a PSP like case, and use PSN to download old PS2 game but charge like $5 a game maybe. Oh, and add a second control stick. Then sell it for like $100-150. Easy idea.
While I understand this idea to an extent, there's a huge flaw with this idea from the start. The PS2 is still profitable for Sony, so it would really make no sense to put a console/handheld that draws attention away from their single most successful platform. If they made a PSP with PS2 hardware, it would probably be too much effort to be worth it. Plus I don't really see it selling as well as you would put it, I don't know exactly why but I just don't think it would work.

TiteAce said:
What an outstanding insightfully constructive and brilliant comment to this thread.
It was simple, came across very "simple" I know. But face the facts and think real hard.
MWUAH! <3
 

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randommaster said:
Nintendo and Sony have switched places in this current console generation. Nintendo thought that the popularity of the N64 would continue on with the GC, but the PS2 was better in pretty much every way except when it came to not breaking when you dropped it. Nintendo realised that they had been lazy and got to work. Sony needs to realise this, but it seems like they haven't, at least not yet.

The PSP is amazingly succesful, especially considering the last real competitor in the handheld market was the Gamegear. Staying in the market for more than a year, and staying competitive, at that, shows that Sony knows how to design a handheld. There were/are problems, but there always are. What they don't have a good grasp on is why people upgrade. Sony appears to be thinking that people will buy the lastest tech just because it is new, so they didn't really put a lot of effort into distinguishing the PSPGo from the PSP. The DS and DSi have one major difference: digital distribution. Sure, it can't play GBA games, but you can't be backwards compatable for everything. The PSPGo just offers more of what you already have if you own a PSP, so there is no real reason to buy a PSPGo if you don't feel the desire to have the absolute latest tech out there.
Interesting. I will say from the start though that the PS2 was not better than the GC technically, but was definitely better marketed when it came to their software (something Nintendo seem to have learned from, their marketing of the GC and it's games was appalling, which is odd considering the good job they did for the 64 and it's titles).

The PSP in no way can be considered a failure, and in terms of surviving in a Nintendo dominated market (like you said, the last one to do that was the Gamegear) it's done more than that and established a foothold, but it probably never has any hope of being market leader (which matters not for us, but definitely does for Sony).

Their talk of digital distribution, while technically a good idea to deal with the problem of piracy and used games (which is the reason I see it being implemented), is something they should have saved for a successor console, because anyone who wants to pirate games just won't buy this.

As for the ones who don't own a PSP, there is still no reason unless you are a tech hound, like you said, but even then there is less incentive to buy it at the price they are asking, and that is definitely what I think it boils down to, especially considering the cheaper manufacturing cost. Look at the original price of the PSP, and the sales hardly skyrocketed. I can't see this doing any different.
 

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TiteAce said:
It was simple, came across very "simple" I know. But face the facts and think real hard.
MWUAH! <3
I fail to see how that pointless, and trollish I may add, comment made on a thread meant to discuss the article that is about the "PSP Go!" was in any way warranted at all. Please, in future topics, please refrain from posting non-constructive posts that in no way helps discussion. You like the 360? Great, post it in a thread about the damn thing.
 

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ChromeAlchemist said:
randommaster said:
Nintendo and Sony have switched places in this current console generation. Nintendo thought that the popularity of the N64 would continue on with the GC, but the PS2 was better in pretty much every way except when it came to not breaking when you dropped it. Nintendo realised that they had been lazy and got to work. Sony needs to realise this, but it seems like they haven't, at least not yet.

The PSP is amazingly succesful, especially considering the last real competitor in the handheld market was the Gamegear. Staying in the market for more than a year, and staying competitive, at that, shows that Sony knows how to design a handheld. There were/are problems, but there always are. What they don't have a good grasp on is why people upgrade. Sony appears to be thinking that people will buy the lastest tech just because it is new, so they didn't really put a lot of effort into distinguishing the PSPGo from the PSP. The DS and DSi have one major difference: digital distribution. Sure, it can't play GBA games, but you can't be backwards compatable for everything. The PSPGo just offers more of what you already have if you own a PSP, so there is no real reason to buy a PSPGo if you don't feel the desire to have the absolute latest tech out there.
Interesting. I will say from the start though that the PS2 was not better than the GC technically, but was definitely better marketed when it came to their software (something Nintendo seem to have learned from, their marketing of the GC and it's games was appalling, which is odd considering the good job they did for the 64 and it's titles).

The PSP in no way can be considered a failure, and in terms of surviving in a Nintendo dominated market (like you said, the last one to do that was the Gamegear) it's done more than that and established a foothold, but it probably never has any hope of being market leader (which matters not for us, but definitely does for Sony).

Their talk of digital distribution, while technically a good idea to deal with the problem of piracy and used games (which is the reason I see it being implemented), is something they should have saved for a successor console, because anyone who wants to pirate games just won't buy this.

As for the ones who don't own a PSP, there is still no reason unless you are a tech hound, like you said, but even then there is less incentive to buy it at the price they are asking, and that is definitely what I think it boils down to, especially considering the cheaper manufacturing cost. Look at the original price of the PSP, and the sales hardly skyrocketed. I can't see this doing any different.
There is also the fact that there is very little difference between PSP and PSPGo, so the price increase hardly seems worth it. If the prices had been comparable, then you would have to decide if backwards compatability was what you want. This is what is happening with the DSi, you can either play GBA games, or get digital distribution.