Psychics

[tthor]

1. She checked their Facebook
2. Google Maps
3. Guy was in on it
4. You're lying to get attention

Who knows, but reaching the conclusion *She's psychic* is not something a self-proclaimed *man of science* would accept.

and i don't truly accept that answer myself. i don't believe in psychics, but no matter how i look at the situation, it makes no logical sense, so if i were forced to say the most visibly logical possibility that could have occurred, all i would be able to say is something beyond our understanding of science.
people keep saying the kids were in on it; Why? this woman wasn't getting any money, and the only fame she received was from a dozen or so teens. People keep saying that shes just a good stalker and has been to all of their houses; first, i would like to mention that this was not a county fair, this was the Minnesota State Fair, all these teens had come from different parts of the state. and even if she did stalk all these people (without any proper motive, and with almost no real opportunity) she would have not only had to had seen the homes, but would have had to study the family's, specifically the people who would later come get a ready from her(without her truly knowing that these teens would actually ever come get a reading from her)

I want some LOGICAL explanations from you people, or don't waste my time, damnit.

 

[lacktheknack]

She's the world's most awesome stalker.

Or demon pacts.

Or she's the world's best face reader.

 

[DiMono]

All psychics are frauds. Every single one of them. If there were a real psychic, they would have been obligated to warn the U.S. about 9/11. Nobody did, so nobody is. Any psychic worth their salt would have won the lottery at least once, would be a wizard in the stock market, and we would know about them without a doubt.

All "psychics" are liars. Including the one at the fair. Did anyone check her for electronic devices? Between yellow pages and Google Earth, there's very little that can't be found out about where someone lives/lived if you know their name.

 

[MikailCaboose]

Any chance that it was staged? She could have been told beforehand and paid your friend to bring you all over to her act.

This. Just because it's your friend doesn't mean that he wasn't payed off.

 

[Folio]

A friend of mine did the same thing. She heard some stuff she already knew but never told anyone. Her bisexuality and her fears. She heard how many people she would date. She heard where she would live. Stuff like that.

I wanted to meet that psychic, but apparently, he died...

 

[Daffy F]

3. Magnets.

HOW DO THEY WORK?!
OT: Erhem. To be honest, psychics don't exist. There was some trick to it, and even if you couldn't see it, it was there.

 

[Cpt. Red]

1. She checked their Facebook
2. Google Maps
3. Guy was in on it
4. You're lying to get attention

Who knows, but reaching the conclusion *She's psychic* is not something a self-proclaimed *man of science* would accept.

and i don't truly accept that answer myself. i don't believe in psychics, but no matter how i look at the situation, it makes no logical sense, so if i were forced to say the most visibly logical possibility that could have occurred, all i would be able to say is something beyond our understanding of science.
people keep saying the kids were in on it; Why? this woman wasn't getting any money, and the only fame she received was from a dozen or so teens. People keep saying that shes just a good stalker and has been to all of their houses; first, i would like to mention that this was not a county fair, this was the Minnesota State Fair, all these teens had come from different parts of the state. and even if she did stalk all these people (without any proper motive, and with almost no real opportunity) she would have not only had to had seen the homes, but would have had to study the family's, specifically the people who would later come get a ready from her(without her truly knowing that these teens would actually ever come get a reading from her)

I want some LOGICAL explanations from you people, or don't waste my time, damnit.

A reason to pretend to be a psychic and start out like that is that you gain a reputation. Then you use that reputation to gain paying clients and then you have an income and some local fame.

How could be by looking trough their facebook page or other networking sites. To minimize the amount of information you could learn as much as you could about a few who are the most probable to be there and then basically use that. Although this might not be able to explain everything she appears to be able to do but it's hard to give fitting enough explanation without actually have been there but it would explain her knowledge of insides of homes and things like that.

 

[noble cookie]

I accidentley my pants

 

[Sun Flash]

Also, you know how cold reading works, right? You can appear to be terrifyingly accurate by making vague suggestions and making the readee fil in the blanks. Seeing as your friend's friends was "freaking out and crying" as you put it, I'd surmise he was in a fragile state of mind, which is exactly the audience psychics go for (which makes it sickening when they profit from those struggling with the concept of death), I know you say she did, but were you there? the friend of a friend could have made the facts sound more accurate when he told you two.

My conclusion? You done been had, bro.

either that or Matt Parkman has fallen on rough times since Heroes was cancelled.

 

[Blemontea]

Im willing to believe Psychic part... and i will. PSYCHICS!

 

[Zykon TheLich]

I want some LOGICAL explanations from you people, or don't waste my time, damnit.

Coincidence? Getting things exactly right for one person is going to happen eventually. Did you even hear the reading she gave your friend? He/she could have been cold read like a book in a freezer(ho, ho, I just made that one up ) and just thought it was some sort of super psychic exact reading. How many other people that you knew personally did she get exactly right? Was everyone else running out crying? There's bound to be a couple of plants to get exactly right, and a bunch of other people that will be cold read with varying degrees of success.

 

[tthor]

"But as far as I can logically tell, this woman was psychic..."

You're a "man of science" and you're only logical conclusion is that she's psychic? /facepalm

They don't exist.

the very idea of science is that it doesn't matter what you think or believe, all that matters are facts and what those facts point to. To truly be a man of science, you need to keep a slightly open mind to new and sometimes strange concepts, and can never assume something is impossible. it can be incredibly unlikely, but not impossible, science has proven this many times over. to say this woman is outright psychic is probably jumping too far, but I can honestly say that, all these facts tell me that none of this makes any sense based on our understanding of science.

You all say that psychics don't exist and thats that, but yet you give little credible claim of how this woman did these things. I don't truly believe in psychics, but that doesn't change the fact that as much as i contemplate what happened, there is no logical explanation

Cold reading, someone else suggested that it was a prank you were unknowingly dragged in to, a knowledge of the family without his knowledge of her, them fucking with you, etc. etc.

Literally everything other than her being psychic is more logical an explanation.

this was definitely NOT cold reading; she was incredibly specific, with the person receiving the reading saying almost nothing throughout. and it is possible it could have been a prank, but pretty doubtful, as she was giving multiple different people readings,

You quoted me and you said you want some logical answers.

We've given you logical answers, a number of people have explained the concept of cold reading.

Your friend is obviously a weak minded little ***** who is easier to read than a childrens' book.

Don't tell us to give you logical answers when you shoot them down immediately saying *lolnah frends 2 smrat*

*Psychics* do this crap all the time, literally all the time. If they want to make a name for themselves they do this crap in front of people and get them to talk, then those people talk, then those people posts threads on the escapist and ***** when people give them obvious answers they never even considered.

Once again, the list of logical answers with some new additions.

1. COLD READING (cannot believe I forgot this one)
2. Facebook
3. Google Maps
4. Stalking

Since you are adamant in your opinion that your friend wasn't in on it, I'll cut that one from the list.

THESE are the logical answers you keep ignoring. Try to remember they do this crap all the time, it's how they become known. If this person is on the air in a year, and you're there in one of her Cable TV advertisements saying *YEH NO IDEA HOW SHE DID IT AY GUYZ* then I'll be really pissed off at your so called (scientific method).

so far, a small handful of people have told reasonably logical possibility. however, the majority of people, including yourself, keep spouting out the same damn illogical explanations. and even after i explain why those wouldn't have worked in this situation to one person, i still get 5 more that then postulate the same exact thing. i'm done explaining the problems with these given answers; i lack both the time and the patience to keep talking to brick walls. thank you to the people who actually gave well thought out and logical responses for this specific scenario. and to the people who kept spouting out the same flawed theories...goodnight.

 

[joebthegreat]

Here's my quick thinking:

She gets a hold of people's names at the fair in some way ('lil bit of stalking by either her or more likely a partner and I'm sure you'll hear plenty of teens' names).

Good local knowledge, facebook, google, and find everything you can out about these people.

Now let's just say she has a real good memory. Let's also say she has a partner either in an obscure place, or listening through something and using a light. Now she looks at people, has memorized who they are or receives a clue, and goes on her little "psychic" rant.

If I've completely missed something my apologies. That's my explanation.

 

[Woodsey]

"But as far as I can logically tell, this woman was psychic..."

You're a "man of science" and you're only logical conclusion is that she's psychic? /facepalm

They don't exist.

the very idea of science is that it doesn't matter what you think or believe, all that matters are facts and what those facts point to. To truly be a man of science, you need to keep a slightly open mind to new and sometimes strange concepts, and can never assume something is impossible. it can be incredibly unlikely, but not impossible, science has proven this many times over. to say this woman is outright psychic is probably jumping too far, but I can honestly say that, all these facts tell me that none of this makes any sense based on our understanding of science.

You all say that psychics don't exist and thats that, but yet you give little credible claim of how this woman did these things. I don't truly believe in psychics, but that doesn't change the fact that as much as i contemplate what happened, there is no logical explanation

Cold reading, someone else suggested that it was a prank you were unknowingly dragged in to, a knowledge of the family without his knowledge of her, them fucking with you, etc. etc.

Literally everything other than her being psychic is more logical an explanation.

this was definitely NOT cold reading; she was incredibly specific, with the person receiving the reading saying almost nothing throughout. and it is possible it could have been a prank, but pretty doubtful, as she was giving multiple different people readings,

You quoted me and you said you want some logical answers.

We've given you logical answers, a number of people have explained the concept of cold reading.

Your friend is obviously a weak minded little ***** who is easier to read than a childrens' book.

Don't tell us to give you logical answers when you shoot them down immediately saying *lolnah frends 2 smrat*

*Psychics* do this crap all the time, literally all the time. If they want to make a name for themselves they do this crap in front of people and get them to talk, then those people talk, then those people posts threads on the escapist and ***** when people give them obvious answers they never even considered.

Once again, the list of logical answers with some new additions.

1. COLD READING (cannot believe I forgot this one)
2. Facebook
3. Google Maps
4. Stalking

Since you are adamant in your opinion that your friend wasn't in on it, I'll cut that one from the list.

THESE are the logical answers you keep ignoring. Try to remember they do this crap all the time, it's how they become known. If this person is on the air in a year, and you're there in one of her Cable TV advertisements saying *YEH NO IDEA HOW SHE DID IT AY GUYZ* then I'll be really pissed off at your so called (scientific method).

so far, a small handful of people have told reasonably logical possibility. however, the majority of people, including yourself, keep spouting out the same damn illogical explanations. and even after i explain why those wouldn't have worked in this situation to one person, i still get 5 more that then postulate the same exact thing. i'm done explaining the problems with these given answers; i lack both the time and the patience to keep talking to brick walls. thank you to the people who actually gave well thought out and logical responses for this specific scenario. and to the people who kept spouting out the same flawed theories...goodnight.

The whole point of cold reading is that you see it to be specific when it's not.

 

[VuvuZelaMan]

Literally everything other than her being psychic is more logical an explanation.

Essentially, this (though there might be a less likely scenario, it's close enough). Unless a verifiable mechanism of ESP etc. is devised and scientifically tested and evidenced, it's ridiculous to assume that any abnormal phenomena occurred.

Unless magnets did it. [/overusedmeme]

 

[Paksenarrion]

...ffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-

In the cosmic scheme of things, toblerones mysteriously appearing near you is pretty sweet!

...but still creepy.

What about toblerones appearing in- No, I won't say it.

I'm somehow reminded of The Great Mouse Detective...

Robot Queen: You're a cheap fraud & impostor!
Ratigan (under his breath): Flaversham!
Basil (operating the robot): A corrupt, vicious, demented, lowlife scoundrel. There's no evil scheme you wouldn't concoct. (the robot goes crazy and breaks apart) No depravity you wouldn't commit. You, professor, are none other than a foul stenchus rodentus, commonly known as a...
Ratigan: Don't say it!
Basil: ...SEWER RAT!

 

[Julianking93]

She could very well have just hired people to do that for her, you know...

 

[Katherine Kerensky]

Obviously a rogue psyker.
I have one way of telling for sure.
If I am in the same area as a rogue psyker, I suffer from spontaneous nosebleeds.
I must investigate!

 

[Paksenarrion]

...ffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-

In the cosmic scheme of things, toblerones mysteriously appearing near you is pretty sweet!

...but still creepy.

What about toblerones appearing in- No, I won't say it.

I'm somehow reminded of The Great Mouse Detective...

Robot Queen: You're a cheap fraud & impostor!
Ratigan (under his breath): Flaversham!
Basil (operating the robot): A corrupt, vicious, demented, lowlife scoundrel. There's no evil scheme you wouldn't concoct. (the robot goes crazy and breaks apart) No depravity you wouldn't commit. You, professor, are none other than a foul stenchus rodentus, commonly known as a...
Ratigan: Don't say it!
Basil: ...SEWER RAT!

XD

Could that have been any more obscure!

Whenever someone says anything similar to, "Don't say it!", I immediately think of this scene. ^_^

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

That is all.

Well, we can all leave this thread alone, guys. No more needs to be said.