Question of the Day, April 10, 2010
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I enjoy either, though I have played many more Western RPGs which are often the real-time ones. Though I do enjoy turn-based ones too. I've played a couple of less-known JRPGs as well as one of the better known ones.
I don't care how realistic turn-based systems are not, as it's a deliberate abstraction (like in fact, hit points themselves in pretty much any RPG), and you argue that strategic planning is more important, (though Dragon Age is one example of how real-time combat can be highly tactical, don't play smart in that game and it will beat you down mercilessly).
This sort of applies to any of my gaming, as long as the system is done well, I'll probably like it. Even better if there is lots of customisation, I'm a RPG nut at heart.
I don't care how realistic turn-based systems are not, as it's a deliberate abstraction (like in fact, hit points themselves in pretty much any RPG), and you argue that strategic planning is more important, (though Dragon Age is one example of how real-time combat can be highly tactical, don't play smart in that game and it will beat you down mercilessly).
This sort of applies to any of my gaming, as long as the system is done well, I'll probably like it. Even better if there is lots of customisation, I'm a RPG nut at heart.
Anything not done in turns and is continuous is real-time, like the aforementioned Dragon Age, as well as Oblivion (though strategy in that usually boils down to knowing when to smack things in the face and when to run like the wind).Abedeus said:
In general turn based is better, since it's hard making a good RT RPG. But a well made RT RPG can be very enjoyable as well. So far it's mostly shooter RPGs that are any good, the sword and sorcery versions generally would have been better as turn based.
To be honest I like both. Though if its done well I will automatically swoon to a good Turn-Based RPG. I also love when its mixed. Such as Valkyria Chronicles and Eternal Sonata. They're both real good.
I hate turn based combat for the same reason Yahtzee does. I like fast flowing games with decisions that have an instant effect (combat-wise). Like Mass Effect, or Oblivion.
...oh wait. It's RTS in RPGs? Damn, I misread. I thought it was a toss-up between turn-based RPG's or RTS games. Silly me. Deduct one point from "turn-based" and add one to "I enjoy both"
However, I actually think I prefer turn-based anyway. RPGs in real time are certainly a lot more fluid in terms of gameplay, but making it turn-based gives it the opportunity to be a lot more in-depth and strategic, like Final Fantasy games, Tactics especially. I enjoy games like Oblivion, but I really do prefer the satisfaction of delivering that final blow after a tense turn-based battle, like in FFT.
However, I actually think I prefer turn-based anyway. RPGs in real time are certainly a lot more fluid in terms of gameplay, but making it turn-based gives it the opportunity to be a lot more in-depth and strategic, like Final Fantasy games, Tactics especially. I enjoy games like Oblivion, but I really do prefer the satisfaction of delivering that final blow after a tense turn-based battle, like in FFT.
I enjoy both. Paper Mario 1&2, Final Fantasy (the first), and such, I love the turn based combat, but Oblivion and WoW, I enjoy the real time. Both have their advantages and disadvantages, and both work for the type of game. Especially when using a party (such as Final Fantasy), can you really imagine controlling four characters in real time?
It really depends on the friendly AI for me. If they are shit, then I want it turned based because then I dont have dipshits using their best abilities off the bat.
Turn-based combat works best if it has a good amount of strategic depth. Like chess, the turn-based nature helps you plan ahead and makes it more a thinking game than a reflex game. However, if the combat doesn't offer any depth then it becomes unnecessarily slow and tedious.
It's the main reason I love turn-based combat in some games (X-COM, Jagged Alliance, Temple of Elemental Evil, Civilization, Alpha Centauri, Final Fantasy Tactics, Blood Bowl, Final Liberation etc), but can't stand it in other games (most jRPGs).
The average jRPG amounts to "a couple of guys standing in front of each other taking turns beating each other up" and contains almost no strategy beyond "use fire magic on the ice monster". That's all well and good in a game like Diablo, but it's frustratingly boring in a turn-based setting.
Personally, I prefer good turn-based combat over any kind of real-time combat, but I'd take mediocre real-time combat over mediocre turn-based combat any day of the week.
It's the main reason I love turn-based combat in some games (X-COM, Jagged Alliance, Temple of Elemental Evil, Civilization, Alpha Centauri, Final Fantasy Tactics, Blood Bowl, Final Liberation etc), but can't stand it in other games (most jRPGs).
The average jRPG amounts to "a couple of guys standing in front of each other taking turns beating each other up" and contains almost no strategy beyond "use fire magic on the ice monster". That's all well and good in a game like Diablo, but it's frustratingly boring in a turn-based setting.
Personally, I prefer good turn-based combat over any kind of real-time combat, but I'd take mediocre real-time combat over mediocre turn-based combat any day of the week.
