Question of the Day, August 19, 2010

nelsonr100

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Now of course the obvious choice here is Star Wars or Star Trek etc. However! Its quite likely these wouldn't exist without things like 2001: A Space Oddysey and Dune.

At the time these presented brand new ideas and really layed the foundation for massive films and series like Star Wars and Trek. As Geeks and Nerds we owe these films and books a dept, as with metropolis.
 

Sonic Doctor

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Doctor Who, I can't believe that wasn't on there.

The original series ran from 1963 to 1989 non-stop, and it was still popular enough to be brought back in 2005. The 2009 Christmas/New Years two-part The End of Time, best known for being Tenth Doctor David Tennant and Lead Writer Russel T Davies last episode, brought in the highest viewing figures BBC America has ever achieved. And it's been consistently one of the most watched shows in Britain.

The Guinness Book of World Records deemed it the most successful sci-fi franchise ever, and many of its creations continually rank on 'Best Ever...' polls, such as reoccurring villain the Daleks topping SFX's user voted Best Monster poll and reoccurring villain The Master topping the Best Villain poll AHEAD of Darth Vader.

And it's the only series I can think of that's killed off its main character ten times and gotten away with it.

I rest my case.
I will definitely agree with you on that Doctor Who should be on the list, but not as the out right winner. I am a giant nerd, but I never knew about Doctor Who until the third season of the new series was starting to air. For me the first Sci-Fi experience was Star Trek:TNG, I would say Ghostbusters was after that. I didn't even see Star Wars until I was 8 or 9 (1993-1994). I guess my mom had bought the trilogy on VHS and I walked in on A New Hope.

Here is my list on what Sci-Fi has effected my life the most, one being most then so on:

1.)Star Trek: Every year I watch all the series and movies on the internet.
2.)Doctor Who
3.)Stargate (That should be the list poll list as well. SG-1 had more seasons and episodes than any Star Trek series. Though I have lost faith in Stargate because of space soap opera that is Stargate Universe the film style and storytelling is getting too Battlestar Galactica and I hate BG.
4.)Star Wars
5.)Firefly

Now collection wise Doctor Who wins: The first four seasons of the new series on dvd, all of the Tennant specials on my Xbox 360. Old series: Doctor Who: The Beginning collection, as well as the Lost In Time collection. Twelve single episode dvds, mostly Peter Davison episodes, key ones being Tom Baker's regeneration into Davison and Davison's regeneration into Colin Baker. I've never really liked or read comics, but when I found that Marvel did a run of 23 Doctor Who comics, in the 80's, that involved Tom Baker and Peter Davison's Doctors, I E-bayed and got them all, as well as IDW's comic series Doctor Who: The Forgotten(a must read for all Doctor Who fans. I won't spoil it but there are two pages in #6 that are for me the best two pages in comics, at least for Doctor Who. Plus #6 has an incredibly awesome cover.) Here are some cover scans. Search the internet if you want to see the rest. They aren't hard to find.


#1 of the Marvel 23.

Doctor Who: The Forgotten #6
 

Melgrath

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OT: Star Wars was the sort-of point where nerd culture and average moviego'er-dum combined, so it gets my vote.

Also, I like Ewoks.
This perfectly sums up my feelings on this thread. Well played.
 

JEBWrench

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Probably Star Trek. I can't stand the fucking thing. But it's probably Star Trek to my way of thinking regarding nerd culture in general.
 

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For me it's a tie between Star Wars and Star Trek. Star Trek created the nerd culture, it was the thing that divided nerds from other people, but Star Wars popularised nerd culture and peaked Hollywood's interests in the nerd film, paving the way for films such as the Alien/Aliens films to rise to popularity, so it depends on how you look at it. Is it the series that birthed the stereotypical nerd or the series that made it explode?
 

The Last Nomad

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Woah, Star wars is waaaay ahead. Not that I expected otherwise...

I picked Star Wars... Mainly because it can appeal to almost all nerd/geeks/whatever. There are only 6 movies, of which you really only need to watch 3, so it is relitivly easy to get into it when compared to other series. Although the exbanded universe is big enough to please any nerd its not nessecary to understand all of it to enjoy it.

And of course it was the first mainstream sci-fi series and all that stuff you already know.

EDIT: I dunno if its more important than star wars, but Lord of The Rings should be there, thanks to it, everyone knows what an orc is, and elves and dwarves have never been the same since.
 

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LordCuthberton said:
DVSAurion said:
I'm still having problems believing that 2001 is good. I understand that the special effects were outstanding back in the 60s and that the camerawork is technically almost perfect, but it's way too long and it doesn't have anything to it except for the overly artistic allegory stuff.

Besides, Star Trek came a few years before and it was kinda good. Sure, most of the actors are kinda bad and there is too much fighting and women for it to be taken completely seriously, but the ideas behind the stuff are good and in some episodes the endless women and fighting actually fit really well. So Star Trek gets my vote.
The cinematography is excellent, the plot solid and the tension thick.

It's the little things that make you love it. The long panning shots.

It's love at first site for a film lover, but I can see it hated by the average Joe watching.

To me, it's a piece of art.
I consider myself to be a film lover to some degree. And I did find some of the scenes in the film pretty amazing from a technical point of view. The problem was, that the movie was reaaally slow and was artificially made even slower with 3 minute blackscreens with nothing but music in the background. And right when I thought the movie was finally gonna start making sense, it pulled the acid trip card out and made me watch ten minutes of landscape through different colourfilters. Around there I stopped paying too much attention. I did watch it too the end though, maybe missed out a little bit.
 

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Daselthechaz, I agree with the thrust of your post (in that out of all those mentioned, Conan is one of the most important) but:

Daselthechaz said:
I posit here and now that without the varied, interesting, explicit and gorgeous fiction of the 15 original stories of Conan
Howard wrote 21 (complete) Conan stories. Even if you're going only by those originally published in Weird Tales, that's 17. Still, no biggie.

Star Trek took the possibilities of the Star Wars universe and tried, quite successfully I might add (although I prefer Star Wars and grit my teeth whenever I have to extol anything Trekish) to realize the sort of world where the damn-near-mythological technology and prowess present in Star Wars in a world bound by Newtonian mechanics.
Star Trek precedes Star Wars by a good decade. Indeed, Star Wars takes more than a few cues from Star Trek itself.
 

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Despite how much I hate George Lucas, no one can deny that Star Wars has had the biggest impact on nerd culture over the last 25 years. Trek is a distant second, and the other options are practically irrelevant. My question is this: where is Lord of the Rings? That would be my choice even over Star Wars. Tolkien practically invented the fantasy universe so many of us spend our time in.