Question of the Day, May 26, 2010

drkchmst

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If playing games was like doing cocaine, i would be one happy mofo. Its not an addiction its just douches who are too stupid to put down the controller. Thats what girlfriends are for, thats why girlfriends wear rings thats why girlfriends have boney hands. A good backhand to the head should fix any guy for a while :D
 

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Any addiction is serious - be it drugs or video games. I'm guessing, though, that the number of people addicted to video games is MUCH lower then say heroin or cocaine.

If someone is truly addicted, though, they will start ignoring the rest of their life to feed the addiction. I've seen it with some friends - a guy I know lost his job because of his Ultima Online habit - too many sick days in a row, etc etc.

Now, you're not at a risk to OD, but the impact on your life is real.
 

ThreeKneeNick

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A few days ago i would have said "HELL NO that's just something control freaks try to convince us because they can't allow people having their own opinions" but after having read this [http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html] i think i ought to think about the answer with a bit more depth. But i think it does come down to some people realizing the skinner box is a better place than the real world and that it's not a real addiction on par with drug abuse, and yes, control freaks want to stop us having that opinion too.
 

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I dislike the limited number of options. Addictions usually are dangerous for two primary reasons:
1) Health effects, and
2) Psychological effects.

Now, the problem is, while videogames can certainly have deletorious psychological effects, there really isn't too much in the way of physical dangers-- well, outside of carpal tunnel syndrome perhaps, chronic lack of sleep, or maybe lack of exercise. But ultimately, the dangers are no where near as bad as getting hooked on a drug is. This is why the comparison between videogames and drugs are fundamentally flawed. Not only do chemicals adversely impact your body, there are also substantial dangers during treatment, particularly withdrawl.

Not so with videogames. Yes, you can still screw up your life, but it is far less likely you'll screw up your body as well, so the treatment and recovery is easier to manage.

For the poll, I answered 'No', but I would suggest that there should've been three options:
1) Yes
2) Serious, but not as serious as drug addiction
3) No

...since the point of the article was the inference that videogames are as potent as cocaine, and did not make the distinction regarding how the physical impact differentiates the two.
 
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This isn't a question as to whether video game addiction is real or not, the question is asking if an addiction to video games is serious.

The answer is yes, addiction itself is a serious thing, and it doesn't matter what the person is addicted to.
 

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Yeah video games can be addicting. But so can many other things. I'm not sure why they are so focused on this now.
Is it for those paranoid parents, who believe everything they read? Instead of cutting your kids off. Teach them Moderation. Anything in excessive amounts can be detrimental to you one way or another. This has been proven time and time again.
 

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Croaker42 said:
ZephrC said:
Wait, aside from all the other obvious bits of stupidity that countless other people will mention, since when has feeling high been a bad thing? Sure, chemically induced highs come with all sorts of dangers and blah blah blah, but if you can feel awesome from doing something perfectly safe, why the hell wouldn't you?
Yes addiction or not we can stay inside and feel great about something.[Sarcasm]I know that is a danger to society and our way of life. [/Sarcasm]
Did I say anything about addiction? Do you get addicted to everything you enjoy? Do plan on avoiding everything you enjoy to avoid addiction?

I was referencing the quote that two hours of gaming makes you feel as high as a line of cocaine. That didn't even talk about addiction, apparently we're just supposed to stay away from things we like.
 

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Mental addiction, sure. I'm sure it's as bad as a gambling addiction, or perhaps marijuana. In no way whatsoever is it a physical addiction though. When I stop playing for a week, I don't start vomiting, or convulsing in seizures. And since I think mental addiction is a load of crap, to describe an obsession or a lack of self-control, I guess no.
 

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Can there be video game addictions and can they be serious? Absolutely. I know several people who dropped out of college because they spent too much time playing WoW. I know many others who have lost their friends because they spent all of their time playing games and never even talked to their friends. Anything can be addicting and video games are no exception. It can be just as detrimental to your relationships, health, and career as drinking, drugs, or any other potential addiction.

But playing two hours of video games in one sitting isn't an addiction any more than having more than two alcoholic drinks on an occasion is alcoholism (seriously, our local health region defines it that way). If that were the case, everyone who had ever had an orgasm at some point would be a sex addict.

Addictions are terribly difficult to measure. How does one determine if a person is in control of their choices? From the outside, there is no possible way to tell the difference: if I say I'm choosing this, you have no way to prove otherwise. From the inside, I could easily fool myself into thinking that I've made the choice, even though I couldn't stop myself from doing so.

I prefer this definition for an addiction: any habit which interferes with the rest of your life. If you have trouble waking up in the morning, or focusing at work, or keeping up relationships, because something you do is interfering, then that thing is an addiction. It could be drinking alcohol, playing video games, watching porn, or counting holes in the ceiling tiles.

Rainboq said:
Guys, no offense, but you need to do your homework on this. They have done studies using MRIs and CAT scans of people playing video games and found that it produces the same effects on your brain as doing drugs. For instance, when you beat a particularly hard challenge, you may not feel it but your brain's reward centers produce massive amounts of dopamine, norepinephrine and serotonin, the exact same things Methamphetamines cause you to produce.
You are right, there is definitely a reaction, but comparing it only to drugs makes it sound worse than it really is (and we should ban dihydrogen monoxide). One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of things cause this reaction and they aren't all addictions. Doing well on a math exam, solving a Sudoku puzzle, having an orgasm, or eating a piece of chocolate will all trigger this response, and the level of the effect can vary considerably depending on the trigger. Video games trigger our pleasure centers just like any other learning process. The major difference with many video games is that they are tuned to hit this center for us as often and fully as possible (just look at Peggle) and they can be used over and over again. Like the mouse hitting the bar, this direct ability to trigger our pleasure centers can be addicting.

But it doesn't have to be. We're conscious beings and most of us are capable of deciding when it's okay to have some fun and when we have to do other things. I think the only thing more dangerous than denying the possibility of games being addicting is to label them as addictive and deny them to the world, which is something that a vocal minority really wants to do. Some people are easily addicted and will become addicted to anything which lends itself available. The rest of us can enjoy a bit of fun every now and then without automatically becoming addicts.

So in total, video games, just like any other pleasurable experience, can be addicting. It's important to be aware of this and to consider it when you play games. Don't let your play time get in the way of the rest of your life, and if you see somebody in that state, don't pass them by -- they need help just as much as any other addict. Enjoy video games responsibly.
 

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my aunt doesn't let her sons play video games and theyre the most feral kids ive met. im not sure if theyd be even worse if they did play video games but whenever my little cousin stays over he is glued to my old gameboy games and pretty much is calm and manageable. i never really liked my aunt but for kids that are so hyper playing video games actually settles them down and lets them be creative, resourceful, have to plan routes, strategize, use problem solving etc. that said i only let them play things like pokemon and mario, id never let them near anything violent although im kinda getting off my point. its that video games can be an excellent tool and resource for kids and its parents that need to stop being stupid and learn how to use them for the benefit of their children.
 

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[HEADING=1] FUCK NO!!! [/HEADING]
If that was true than I must be able to consume endless hours of coke without dying.
 

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Is VIDEO GAME addiction a serious condition? Is video game ADDICTION a serious condition? Is video game addiction a SERIOUS condition? This question is loaded, but anyone who says addiction of any sort is not serious is either a deluded addict in the throes of reverie, or a simpleton.

Addiction is a sickness that eats the soul, erodes the character, and destroys relationships. You always get benefits in exchange for this destruction, but only time will tell how you will value them when you feast at the banquet of your own consequences. I think taken at face value, video game addiction looks less serious than many other addictions. It may be easy to misdiagnose by those who hold a grudge against the medium, and therefore, just as easy to be skeptical of those who invoke its name.

But if we are talking a real addiction, not just some damn kid wasting more time than his parents feel s/he ought on their Xbox, then there really is no wiggle room. Sloth, an escape you pay for, repetitive motions, undernourishment, damaged social awareness: this is a cocktail for a lot of physical problems, a poor disposition, a possibility for mental disease, a lifetime's worth of waste, and an empty wallet. Show me a drug that is worse. Sh*t's serious.
 

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Rainboq said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Rainboq said:
]Guys, no offense, but you need to do your homework on this. They have done studies using MRIs and CAT scans of people playing video games and found that it produces the same effects on your brain as doing drugs.
snip.
I have this on pretty good authority, considering that my mother actually worked in one of those studies. They found increased levels of dopamine, norepinephrine and serotonin after a player completed a particularly hard challenge.

Now, this is after a hard challenge, which the aforementioned Barbie game would be lacking, but a game like Peggle or Half-life wouldn't.
If everyone got high off solving hard problems, the world would be a much better place.

To the topic at hand, I think video game addiction, if it exists, can be serious, but in rare cases and it doesn't need any sort of government regulation or anything of the sort. People should know how much gaming they should be doing, and if they're making bad calls, well, that's just bad judgment, and that's not going to go away no matter how hard you try to legislate.
 

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No, no it's not. It's not even a "condition".

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Marik2 said:
[HEADING=1] FUCK NO!!! [/HEADING]
If that was true than I must be able to consume endless hours of coke without dying.
^That^ Is hilarious!
 

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Enigmers said:
Rainboq said:
The_root_of_all_evil said:
Rainboq said:
]Guys, no offense, but you need to do your homework on this. They have done studies using MRIs and CAT scans of people playing video games and found that it produces the same effects on your brain as doing drugs.
snip.
I have this on pretty good authority, considering that my mother actually worked in one of those studies. They found increased levels of dopamine, norepinephrine and serotonin after a player completed a particularly hard challenge.

Now, this is after a hard challenge, which the aforementioned Barbie game would be lacking, but a game like Peggle or Half-life wouldn't.
If everyone got high off solving hard problems, the world would be a much better place.
True, but that require more physical exertion than a video game would.
 

Rainboq

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Shepard said:
No, no it's not. It's not even a "condition".

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Marik2 said:
[HEADING=1] FUCK NO!!! [/HEADING]
If that was true than I must be able to consume endless hours of coke without dying.
^That^ Is hilarious!
See several of my posts.

It works a lot like Methamphetamines, it stimulates the reward centers of your brain.
 

bakonslayer

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Video games are DEFINITELY an addiction. But are completely incomparable to drug addiction. Those aren't even the same ballpark. More on a similar level to food or sex, not because they are bad for you, just because it is "too much of a good thing"

Also, you want to talk about dangerous gaming addiction? Your best two options are Starcraft in Korea and Madden in the Pro Football circuit (or other sports games in other professional leagues). A lot of money is moved, and not a lot of it is very accounted for... If you know what I mean.
 

daftalchemist

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Gaming addiction is not a stand-alone problem or condition, so no it is not a serious problem. It's always a symptom of something else, most likely depression. It's because being in a game world is preferable to being in the real world due to jobs, school, family, etc. I've even noticed in myself that when I go through tough times in life and start feeling a little depressed again, I play games far more often than I normally do.
 

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Rainboq said:
Shepard said:
No, no it's not. It's not even a "condition".

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Marik2 said:
[HEADING=1] FUCK NO!!! [/HEADING]
If that was true than I must be able to consume endless hours of coke without dying.
^That^ Is hilarious!
See several of my posts.

It works a lot like Methamphetamines, it stimulates the reward centers of your brain.
So does winning a game of football, or even playing well, or finishing a crossword, or having a wank. These all need to be illegal immediately for my own safety.

Seriously, I'm getting dehydrated.
 

Rainboq

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Actual said:
Rainboq said:
Shepard said:
No, no it's not. It's not even a "condition".

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Marik2 said:
[HEADING=1] FUCK NO!!! [/HEADING]
If that was true than I must be able to consume endless hours of coke without dying.
^That^ Is hilarious!
See several of my posts.

It works a lot like Methamphetamines, it stimulates the reward centers of your brain.
So does winning a game of football, or even playing well, or finishing a crossword, or having a wank. These all need to be illegal immediately for my own safety.

Seriously, I'm getting dehydrated.
...

None of those have the same level of stimulation of video games, think about that for a second.