Racist against....whites?

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Interesting...

Multiple things which haven't been mentioned, but if we're disussing race and racism issues the whole picture is probably necessary. For example, a white man calls a black man subhuman because of the colour of his skin. This is racist. A black man calls a white man subhuman because of the colour of his kin. This is racist. A black man calls another black man subhuman because his skin isn't quite as dark as his. In Malawui, there are crimes we would class as being race crimes between two people from different ancestral tribes, based on skin colour and geographic location. It's racism, but not as we know it.

Also, would everybody stop saying 'we'. I have never once been involved in the owning of slaves, the subjugation of anyone of another skin colour, and I find it ridiculous and insulting to even suggest this to me. By even saying 'we white people need to accept our history of racism' lowers the argument to an unarguable basis. My history does not involve racism. My ancestors' history may or may not (I honestly don't know), but mine doesn't. I don't even see why I have to acknowledge my ancestor's history; as has been said before, I wasn't there.
 

AkJay

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It's a corrupt system, i mean, i don't go bat-shit insane if a black man calls me "Honkey" or "Cracker" i just laugh it off.
 

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I don't know about you but this kind of racism against white people I take fucking seriously, even if there's almost no chance of these dudes bringing their plans into being it's still worrying.

Worrying and hilarious, but still worrying.
 

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messy said:
Nimbus said:
I think we may have gotten a wee bit carried away with it in the past, if you know what I mean.
Yeah pretty much the last 400 years have been pro whitey, I can take a few words
First I would like to congragulate the rest of the world for catching up. Kinda sad how allot of us had to feel bad and give a bunch of hadouts to make that happen. But atleast now we are on equal ground.
 

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The REAL (read: academic) definition of racism is "A system of advantage based on race favoring whites, and simultaneously disadvantaging minorities." (My wording). Perhaps in some countries you can switch around the races, but not in America. And if you follow this definition, it is impossible to be truly racist against white people, because racism works in their favor. Of course, the definition we most often see is personal racism, where a person or group engages in "racist" behavior. As the academics argue, if there was only this personal racism, then it would have died out already because society has realized that it's wrong. But there's still a system of advantage based on race.
 

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hoopyfrood said:
Captain Pancake said:
Because there's history to remember. We treated black people like shit, so we should feel ashamed to do it now that we've changed our ways. Anything they do is just fair play, within reason of course.
Slavery and segregation is yesterday's news. It's time to move on. Have you ever noticed that even though black people in the US still complain about ancient history, countries that fought each other in one or two World Wars have essentially forgotten about the whole thing?

Accusing a black person of being racist to a white person is like accusing a 1940's jew of being a nazi hater, though that metaphor might be a bit strong...
A bit strong? Try "batshit crazy" instead.
Ok, hoopyfrood, you need to drop this vendetta against me. At first, I could handle the arguments, because they had context. But now you're just contradicting everything I say! I offered a logical opinion, and you just threw it in my face. I admitted that my metaphor was too strong for the specific reason that people wouldn't quote me on it, yet you're just jumping on the opportunity to belittle my argument at every turn! It needs to stop before the mods get involved.
 

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ninonybox360 said:
im not racist at all and i think none should be judged by color. with that out of the way i want to ask something.

why is it a big deal if a white man is racist to a black man

but if a black man is racist to a white man its like "who gives a shit"

Because the only race that is discriminated agaist is the whites. Blacks have rap and the "I'm soo cool you trip nigga" attitude. The Yellows have Manga and Rapelay. And The Pink have Indi.. er, I mean Native American Casinos.
 

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whites as a race and more specifically American's have become an easy scapegoat because of the actions of our ancestors. In the past things have happened that aren't the best, we need to drop the past,but not repeat it if we want to move on.


Also I find most white guy jokes funny and go out of my way to call other white guys like myself crackers,along with myself.
 

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Phyroxis said:
Armored Prayer said:
Well considering whites were racist towards:

Blacks
Asians
Latinos
Middle easterners
Hindus
Jews
and even their own women.

And whites should TOTALLY be punished for the decisions of their ancestors. Because, you know, we totally agree with what they did.. And hell, we were there. Unborn, of course, but we were there being racist too. So its totally justified.

Forget the fact that most of us are NOT racist, we should still be punished for something we didnt do. :)
And yet because of the racism back then there still are socioeconomic effects to this day plaguing a lot of minorities. But forget about all that whites will soon be the minority in 2042.
 

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akwardwhistle said:
Phyroxis said:
Armored Prayer said:
Well considering whites were racist towards:

Blacks
Asians
Latinos
Middle easterners
Hindus
Jews
and even their own women.

And whites should TOTALLY be punished for the decisions of their ancestors. Because, you know, we totally agree with what they did.. And hell, we were there. Unborn, of course, but we were there being racist too. So its totally justified.

Forget the fact that most of us are NOT racist, we should still be punished for something we didnt do. :)

And yet because of the racism back then there still are socioeconomic effects to this day plaguing a lot of minorities. But forget about all that whites will soon be the minority in 2042.
But does that justify racism today? I don't think anything can justify intentionally putting someone else down.
 

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Jedoro said:
Double standard

Some people think that minorities get the luxury of being racist to white people because white people did it for so long. Let's all forget the meaning of equality and just turn it around to in essence make minorities superior.
This is the best argument. I agree with this. If it's equality, then a white person should not be punished for something while a minority gets off the hook for the same thing.
 

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Well I'le add my little opinion here, I don't know if every one is going to like it but it's my opinion and I think there's a lot of truth to it.

First off I can gather that most people on this site (Well at least all those posted so far) don't have a Racist bone in there body, and that's good, then we can discuss this without any bias thoughts.

Okay were to begin, ho yeah, The whole slavery issue, well for one you can't hold on to this card, a lot of Black People these day's tend to believe that there the only people to have ever been enslaved, well a message to the racist black man who likes to call every one cracker and honkey, here's a news flash, your not, the slave trade was going on a way, way, way, way before America or Britain was even discovered, Romans used to capture and enslave there enemies and sell them in the slave trade, and most of Rome's enemies weren't black, they were white, they were nordics a lot of them, they came from every part of the earth that they knew of including Italy. The Greeks had a slave trade going on, even Africa had it's own slave trade, yes black people using black people as slaves and Black people using White people as slaves. I could probably bet you that at just about every country and ever ethnicity has been used as slaves before.

Another thing about the whole slave trade in America, well I'm going to get boo'd for saying this but, well it was a good thing in the long run, before you start throwing tomatoes at me just think about it, even though a lot of your ancestors had to go through hell but now your at least free in America rather then in Rwanda getting shut and killed just for the sake of it, or Indonesia starving to death with plagues and disease's every were, I mean people who live on a bad street in a bad neighbour hood may think there in poverty, but go to a "bad neighbour hood in Rwanda and you'll think twice.

That aside though I'm not that bothered about racism, I don't get offended when I'm watching Lenny Henry or Chris Rock I laugh my arse of at it, the same way I laugh at Roy Chubby Brown. I'm not into racism but if it's a laugh and a joke I don't mind being the race the joke is aimed at. I can live with those jokes and just accept the stereotype :D, however when it starts to get a little too serious I tend not to laugh and not take it for a joke, sorta the reason I don't like Bernan manning (Goes just that mile too far and keeps on sprinting).

I'm all for equality and one day I hope it to be a equal world but at the moment it just isn't happening, a lot people need to change there attitude and way of thinking before that happens, the KKK need to get a grip and a lot of Black people need to learn to move on and stop living in the past.

Also I do have a feeling the first and middle part of my comment may hit some nerves and for that I apologise I don't mean offend any one, these are just my opinions and I'm free to discuss what I have said but please if it did offend any one and you feel like bring me up on it, please do it with some sort of rational and don't just start screaming at me.
 

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To me, being racist towards a white person and being racists towards a black person. History should teach us that we are equal to everyone not oh give them some lea-way because of the past. We should learn from history not repeat it.
 

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Maybe because whites weren't enslaved for a good two hundred years?

But yes I do get pissed off when you can't say something about a black guy without being "racist."
 

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I've actually met someone who was a real anti-white racist, I was pretty shocked. It was some militant, India Hindu guy who basically said that every white person was evil and stupid, and that his glorious culture was the source of all progress in the world. Something like that. It felt so weird talking with that guy. and yes I'm white myself.
 

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samaritan.squirrel said:
Because white people are in no position to get tetchy about a joke or two at their expense after centuries of slavery and similar atrocities.
We'll deal with it until your conscience is cleansed.
Well, this is pretty much how I meant to word my response.
 

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ninonybox360 said:
im not racist at all and i think none should be judged by color. with that out of the way i want to ask something.

why is it a big deal if a white man is racist to a black man

but if a black man is racist to a white man its like "who gives a shit"
Way to rock those stereotypes, chief.

-- Alex
 

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Sovvolf said:
Well I'le add my little opinion here, I don't know if every one is going to like it but it's my opinion and I think there's a lot of truth to it.

First off I can gather that most people on this site (Well at least all those posted so far) don't have a Racist bone in there body, and that's good, then we can discuss this without any bias thoughts.

Okay were to begin, ho yeah, The whole slavery issue, well for one you can't hold on to this card, a lot of Black People these day's tend to believe that there the only people to have ever been enslaved, well a message to the racist black man who likes to call every one cracker and honkey, here's a news flash, your not, the slave trade was going on a way, way, way, way before America or Britain was even discovered, Romans used to capture and enslave there enemies and sell them in the slave trade, and most of Rome's enemies weren't black, they were white, they were nordics a lot of them, they came from every part of the earth that they knew of including Italy. The Greeks had a slave trade going on, even Africa had it's own slave trade, yes black people using black people as slaves and Black people using White people as slaves. I could probably bet you that at just about every country and ever ethnicity has been used as slaves before.

Another thing about the whole slave trade in America, well I'm going to get boo'd for saying this but, well it was a good thing in the long run, before you start throwing tomatoes at me just think about it, even though a lot of your ancestors had to go through hell but now your at least free in America rather then in Rwanda getting shut and killed just for the sake of it, or Indonesia starving to death with plagues and disease's every were, I mean people who live on a bad street in a bad neighbour hood may think there in poverty, but go to a "bad neighbour hood in Rwanda and you'll think twice.

That aside though I'm not that bothered about racism, I don't get offended when I'm watching Lenny Henry or Chris Rock I laugh my arse of at it, the same way I laugh at Roy Chubby Brown. I'm not into racism but if it's a laugh and a joke I don't mind being the race the joke is aimed at. I can live with those jokes and just accept the stereotype :D, however when it starts to get a little too serious I tend not to laugh and not take it for a joke, sorta the reason I don't like Bernan manning (Goes just that mile too far and keeps on sprinting).

I'm all for equality and one day I hope it to be a equal world but at the moment it just isn't happening, a lot people need to change there attitude and way of thinking before that happens, the KKK need to get a grip and a lot of Black people need to learn to move on and stop living in the past.

Also I do have a feeling the first and middle part of my comment may hit some nerves and for that I apologise I don't mean offend any one, these are just my opinions and I'm free to discuss what I have said but please if it did offend any one and you feel like bring me up on it, please do it with some sort of rational and don't just start screaming at me.
Its nice to see someone going further back in history than a couple of hundred years. Also the spanish ensalved native americans when america was "discovered". Slavery has been a sad event in history and i agree with you. I find lenny henry funny especially as he makes jokes about himself too but groups like the BNP and kkk are in my opinion are just backward.