Racist against....whites?

[Alex_P]

I could probably bet you that at just about every country and ever ethnicity has been used as slaves before.

European mercantilist/imperialist/industrialist exploitation involved more than just slavery. Its brand of slavery diverged significantly from most other forms of historic slavery. The nature of European expansion set the tone for how they treated the cultures they encountered. European military supremacy made it possible to conquer and practically dismantle entire nations. Since Europeans were traveling so far afield in their search for new resources, the people they encountered were largely cultures previously unknown to them; the lack of any pre-existing understanding made it easier for them to treat others without empathy of conscience -- racialist beliefs (common to almost all pre-modern cultures) exploded into the most dehumanizing and rigidly institutionalized form of racism the world has ever seen.

And it just got worse and worse over time. The Industrial Revolution brought massive increases in production thanks to new machinery, but demanded lots of hazardous and mechanistic human labor to fill the gaps in the production pipeline. For example, American slavery achieved its worst excesses in the 19th century, after independence, when there was a need for massive industrialized farm labor to provide the raw materials for gin factories.

To put it mildly:
Rome had a fucked-up social system, but the Belgian Congo was an atrocity.

... even though a lot of your ancestors had to go through hell but now your at least free in America rather then in Rwanda getting shut and killed just for the sake of it, ...

You understand who made Rwanda so bad in the first place, right?

-- Alex

 

[ArcWinter]

Well, OP, that situation right there is dumb as shite but it would still happen because that's how people are. Racism is discrimination on the basis of one's race (but since we're all human, it doesn't really exist), so any "race" can be racist to one another. History has nothing to do with it, it's the freakin' definition. Racism does not simply apply to those of black origin like antisemitism applies to Jews. The problem is that people are ignorant and stupid, and should be smacked upside the head many times until they realize the problem. Many humans pretend that race is real, and that it is only racism if you discriminate against a minority. This is not true, and in response to the slightly vapid title, yes, there is racism against whites, but since not many of them are actually white, (that would be albinos) probably more around pale tan or dark tan, the whole situation makes no sense.

So, pretty much everyone is wrong.

 

[Alex_P]

tru dat. If african americans want to call us racist by acting on stereotypes, STOP ACTING LIKE A STEREOTYPES!

So being a black guy's totally cool as long as you act white?
Why, how enlightened and non-racist of you!

-- Alex

 

[Kriptonite]

I being a black person think it is unfair. If it is not okay for a white man to be racist, it should not be okay for a black man to be racist. Now, if there are any 200 year old ex-slaves, then they have a right to be. Or black people should only do the same with a 200 year old ex-slave driver. Other than that, no one has been a slave in there life that is alive today and the same with slave owners. People should not blame others for things their (insert specific number of greats) grand parents did to someone elses (same thing) grandparents. But some people are afraid of people unlike them.

 

[Sovvolf]

You understand who made Rwanda so bad in the first place, right?

-- Alex

Yes, but I doubt it would have made a difference with or without the slave trade, Rwanda would have still been fucked up by the Belgium and German colonists, separating the Hutu's and Tutsi's.

 

[chiggerwood]

Because we are currently living in Martin Luther King JR.'s nightmare.

 

[Cavouku]

Depends. If it's a racist joke, we should all be able to laugh, because it's all in good context. If someone is offensively bashing you, no matter what, that's wrong. Maybe it's that white people were so prejudiced against other races, so they can get back at us. Come on, be a sport, and let them have a free punch-in-the-gut.

Brush it off and keep moving, Caucasian's are a big boy, we can take it. It's not right, but we shouldn't make a big deal out of it. Unless it's a big deal, I guess. Someone saying "honky" to you in the street should be funny, not offensive.

I really don't get offended at things. All in context and understanding, right?

 

[MrShadowzs]

Im not a racist but im just saying when ever someone tells me a white joke i laugh but when a black guy hears a black joke they get all up in my grill (n' stuff)

 

[sam13lfc]

It's all to do with the history of it all (slavery etc). But I know what you mean, I hate how some ignorant fucks seem to think you can't be racist to white people.

 

[Alex_P]

This whole thread is based on the fraudulent premise that it is actually socially acceptable for American non-whites to be racist.

It's not.

If you're a person with any kind of power, racist stuff is just as socially unacceptable as it is for a white person. Look at how much everyone scrutinized every comment made by Obama or Sotomayor for signs of racial bias, for example.

Americans just casually ignore racism when it comes from non-whites they perceive as powerless because, well, they think it doesn't matter because, y'know, they're powerless. Society is all about ignoring the powerless. (Now, individually powerless whites still get a wary eye because they have the numbers to be a dangerous mass movement.)

-- Alex

 

[A teenage old man]

Well considering whites were racist and done horrible things towards:

Native Americans
Blacks
Asians
Latinos
Middle easterners
Hindus
Jews
and even their own women. (You know not having any civil rights and all)

I can see why being ignorant towards them is acceptable.

Edit: Ok this came out wrong. Lets just say that this was all in the past, I mean no offence, and that all forms of racism is wrong.

Not entirely true. The AMERICAN whites oppressed those people, but now all whites are being racism-ed. So all the European whites have to put up with "bird-shit" and "white bread"

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Oh god, really? I was just about to get typing when I saw Mr P above me say:

This whole thread is based on the fraudulent premise that it is actually socially acceptable for American non-whites to be racist.

It's not.

If you're a person with any kind of power, racist stuff is just as socially unacceptable as it is for a white person. Look at how much everyone scrutinized every comment made by Obama or Sotomayor for signs of racial bias, for example.

Americans just casually ignore racism when it comes from non-whites they perceive as powerless because, well, they think it doesn't matter because, y'know, they're powerless. Society is all about ignoring the powerless. (Now, individually powerless whites still get a wary eye because they have the numbers to be a dangerous mass movement.)

-- Alex

And there we have it. There don't need to be five more pages of people missing the point, the point being that the OP is wrong, and at this point you're just stirring the pot.

 

[Baldry]

I would of thought that the world would of evolved to let racism be a laughing matter

 

[crypt-creature]

because white people weren't subjected to a couple hundred years of slavery under black people. doesn't mean I like it though

No, white people just enslaved other white people for a longer period of time, before enslaving a black person ever came into the picture.

 

[Xojins]

Probably because the segregation only ended about 50 years ago, while slavery and racism were rampant for hundreds of years. Many of the arguments from white people I know basically boil down to: "Oh, that's all in the past and we don't agree with it and have apologized for it, so you're not allowed to be mad about it anymore." I think it's rather stupid.

 

[PhantomCritic]

why is it a big deal if a white man is racist to a black man

but if a black man is racist to a white man its like "who gives a shit"

Maybe the whole slavery thing and the many years of racism could have had something to do with it? Other than that, I got nothing.

 

[Wicky_42]

Probably because the segregation only ended about 50 years ago, while slavery and racism were rampant for hundreds of years. Many of the arguments from white people I know basically boil down to: "Oh, that's all in the past and we don't agree with it and have apologized for it, so you're not allowed to be mad about it anymore." I think it's rather stupid.

This is basically the basis for the whole thing, but I would vote to wait a couple of generations so there's no-one around who's parents were personally involved in the whole slavery thing, then perhaps it would be easier to get over the whole thing - less real stigma, more a 'traditional' thing. Of course, that could be equally difficult to get over, but meh...

 

[Xorghul]

Blonde jokes are racist?

There's no such thing. But if you mean those short facts about blonds that people usually laugh at...no, they're not racist.

 

[gremily]

What? That's impossible only white people can be racist. T_T
(Sarcasm)

 

[suhlEap]

i do think it's kinda wrong that black people can be racist and get away with it. i don't condone racism against any people but it does seems a little harsh that white people get treated worse for doing it.