Rage Cuts Single-Player When You Buy It Used

Strazdas

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So, from the DMRs that allow file sharers (they are not pirates, pirates steal shit on sea, idiotic media figured terms would match) to play while normal player cant, they now make it so cracked versions will be superior, and they expect this to work? they should rethink their strategy.
 

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Strazdas said:
So, from the DMRs that allow file sharers (they are not pirates, pirates steal shit on sea, idiotic media figured terms would match) to play while normal player cant, they now make it so cracked versions will be superior, and they expect this to work? they should rethink their strategy.
Normal players can
 

stewox

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Just read this thread and then disucss what do you think: http://tinyurl.com/rage-megathread

Everyone agreed on RAGE beth official forums that was a stupid eurogamer interview that coudln't have been made on worst possible time.
 

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stewox said:
Just read this thread and then disucss what do you think: http://tinyurl.com/rage-megathread

Everyone agreed on RAGE beth official forums that was a stupid eurogamer interview that coudln't have been made on worst possible time.
So hopefully id will fire Ted Witless and spare the community his asinine nearly-delusional talk on what he thinks the industry will say and do.

Notice, all id's bad press comes from this guy.
 

RanceJustice

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The best and ONLY way for "Publishers to protect their content" is to make fantastic games that people want to buy, at a reasonable price, unencumbered by DRM or any of the myriad money-grab DLC schemes that have become so popular as of late.
 

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Why is everyone getting so angry? Why are you all so against buying games new? Either way its not like they're ripping out the entire second half of the game. People are proclaiming that they're not going to buy the game now at all because some small extra content is locked for second hand copies. Its not like a few bonus hatches are gonna turn your gaming experience from a 5 to a 10/10. Just relax and enjoy the game.
 

GrizzlerBorno

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El Luck said:
GrizzlerBorno said:
None of that matters to me.

Allow me to make this clear: I'm expressly thinking from the point of view of the developers and publishers. I know that's a naive way to go about it. I know that's at odds with the point of view of the average gamer......but why should it be?

Publishers help developers to craft these amazing works of interactive artwork...... and Gamers are willing to just exploit a loophole in the legal system to play these games without giving THEM a single cent? (Of course then they log into forums to laud it. How duplicitous is that?) That's what matters to them. The fact that people are playing their games (which took millions of dollars and 2-4 whole years to make) without giving THEM any money at all, for creating the game. To THEM......how is it different from Piracy?

Sure the government says it's fine......but what stake does the government have in this? They are not being affected by this in any way, shape or form; The game makers ARE. Why should they fight Used game sales any less than they do Piracy? Why should they not fight it with any means available to them?
I can see where your coming from from your POV, but i'll go from the gamers POV. The thing is, why the should the gamer be punished for looking around for a good deal?

I'm not a console gamer any more, I gave up around the PS3 hacking debacle and even then I brought very few games because there were none that interested me, but if I was looking around for a game and saw one going for around £45-£50 and the same game which was used going for around £20-£40 (yeah the price ranges are a bit stupid but meh) ...Yeah I'd go with the used game

Why on earth should I be punished for looking for a good deal when its clearly the game retailer that's at fault? they sell it for cheaper (or slightly cheaper depending on the age of the game)

Surely it would be smarter for the publishers and developers that have so much of an issue with used game sales to go after the retailers than come up with these stupid ways to demonise a gamer who's only crime is spending their money the way they want?

Well thats my take on it anyway.
But...But Pirates get the best deals EVER, then! How can you beat the price of free?!

Or fuck Torrents. If you go to a DVD store in any shopping mall in any Indian city, you can get a bootleg double Dvd copy of ANY retail game for like.....~100 rupees. No DRM. No cut levels. No multiplayer though.... But still 100 rupees. That's literally 2 fucking Dollars! So Indian gamers are getting the best bargain deals of all time! And apparently you can't blame them for doing that?

And technically the gamers themselves aren't stealing cause they are paying some random third party that is not affiliated with any publishers, for their used games. Sound familiar?
 

Wicky_42

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As I'm sure has been mentioned before, what's the fuss? You can't even trade in PC games, and haven't been able to for years - it's not the apocalypse or anything, it's just annoying.
 

Wicky_42

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raklin said:
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As for waiting a few months to buy a game on sale? I don't know about the magical candy land you live in, but I'll use Crysis 2 as an example. On sale, it was only $10 less than the original price. Just because I'm poor doesn't mean I should wait 6-8 months for a fair price drop, and you're rather mistaken if you think I will.
The trouble is that this attitude is entitlement, with the legal and, tbh, moral argument being that games are a luxury, not a necessity, and that it is up to the publisher and distributor to decide on what a 'fair' price is in the first place. You have very little ground to stand on. You could claim the prices demanded of you are too high and unaffordable, but it's the same for any other good; you aren't entitled to a Ferrari or Lamborghini just because they cost too much and you can't afford them, and the same applies here to your entertainment.

Do I personally think game prices are too high? Yeah, perhaps, especially for the quantity of content and on occasion quality being sold, and a lot of that is down to so much being spent on graphics for those money shots. However, that is the price that they are being sold at. If you don't like it and can't afford it then you WILL have to wait up to a year for sale prices to come up, because that's the way it works. Or you could pre-order games, and save 10% on a title you were planning on buying anyway and get it on release.

In short, being poor isn't a valid excuse, and neither is lack of patience.
 

G96 Saber

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Oh no, this is terrible, poor people will miss a small part of Rage. Oh Jesus Christ!

Game developers have gone bust because of the second-hand market; so i support this.
 

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suitepee7 said:
that sounds... pretty shitty. now i will probably miss this game entirely. meh

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ToastiestZombie said:
I thought bad things when i read the title, but now I know that its only small parts of the SP taht are being cut for used palyers. In my opinion this is the right way to do DRM.
no, it is not the right way to do DRM, because it is punishing gamers who have still legitimately bought a copy of the game, but could not afford to do so first hand.
Not necessarily.

You could just wait, y'know, a few months until the price for a new copy of the game drops to about 75% of its price? How about the post-Christmas sales?

I think it's quite a good way of doing DRM.
 

Voration

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Well my response to that is I will never buy rage.

I'm not being petty or anything, but I don't have online access and generally only play single player campaigns. I also don't buy games when they come out, I wait until I can afford them :s