Rage Cuts Single-Player When You Buy It Used

[Nonny]

I myself rarely buy new games because me and my girlfriend only have one salary to live on. This is ok however, since I also don't think I have some god-given right to play every game on release. If there's a game I really really want asap, I'll buy it new on release, otherwise it can wait for a sale or a normal price cut in a year or so. There so SO many great games out there that do not cost full price anymore, and if you're like me and have a medium to low economy, you can go for mainly these games.

Being low on money is no excuse to rape developers in the behind by pirating or buying used copies.

 

[Nonny]

Did you miss the part where I said that if they earn a reputation for good games, and not shitty "Wah wah we want moniiez!" DRM, that more people actually buy their next outings at full price? Hell, I often like to rent games before I buy them if they seem iffy. Or does that turn developers destitute, too?

It's cool, though. I can be selective with my reading, too. I'm gonna imagine all you said was "DERP".

Saying that a developer is crying because they want some money in return for their several year long and very costly project makes me sick.

 

[Mr.Squishy]

Say goodbye to my money, Id, you won't be seeing them with Rage.

 

[King of the Sandbox]

Did you miss the part where I said that if they earn a reputation for good games, and not shitty "Wah wah we want moniiez!" DRM, that more people actually buy their next outings at full price? Hell, I often like to rent games before I buy them if they seem iffy. Or does that turn developers destitute, too?

It's cool, though. I can be selective with my reading, too. I'm gonna imagine all you said was "DERP".

Saying that a developer is crying because they want some money in return for their several year long and very costly project makes me sick.

There's a difference between 'some money' and 'we need enough for everyone to have matching Ferrari's and a ball pit, with the balls made of solid gold, at the company HQ.'

 

[Nonny]

And there's a difference between "some money" and "no money at all"

 

[stewox]

http://www.shacknews.com/article/69716/rage-will-use-steamworks

 

[Llamaboy01]

Great! I look forward to the cut from £50 to £20 then, since my game will have f**k all resale value

Otherwise Rage Can kindly go (Inserts anatomacly impossible action) itself

EDIT: Just to point out, i share a situation that i think alot of people find themselves in. I live in the UK, on one salary, verything is expensive as hell, and basic living takes most of it. Im only able to buy games preowned, let alone new if i can trade my old ones if towards it :/

 

[fenrizz]

I myself rarely buy new games because me and my girlfriend only have one salary to live on. This is ok however, since I also don't think I have some god-given right to play every game on release. If there's a game I really really want asap, I'll buy it new on release, otherwise it can wait for a sale or a normal price cut in a year or so. There so SO many great games out there that do not cost full price anymore, and if you're like me and have a medium to low economy, you can go for mainly these games.

Being low on money is no excuse to rape developers in the behind by pirating or buying used copies.

Oh please.
Buying used is a legitimate option for consumers, and applies to every single industry on earth, why should the game indusry recieve special treatment?

No one is claiming that buying a used car, used book or a used DVD is raping the developers of those products.

 

[King of the Sandbox]

And there's a difference between "some money" and "no money at all"

I like how you think that devs don't get paid until people buy the games from stores.

It's cute. Naive, but cute.

 

[the_green_dragon]

If you buy it used, you ain't supporting the developers, just like the pirates do. Don't see anything wrong with it, as long as this new little feature doesn't affect the legit buyers.

So buying a game second hand is just as bad as pirating?

 

[Llamaboy01]

Sorry, but really cant resist XD

http://www.cristgaming.com/pirate.swf

 

[stewox]

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150325

 

[Nonny]

And there's a difference between "some money" and "no money at all"

I like how you think that devs don't get paid until people buy the games from stores.

It's cute. Naive, but cute.

Nowhere have I said that, so I don't get what you're getting at. Of course they get paid, but something tells me that how well a game sells would be instrumental to the future of the company, no?

Either way, I'm not gonna argue this point further. There are a lot of people outraged with this statement so obviously this is something that will impact them greatly. I just can't understand how some people think. I'll withdraw my statement that it's wrong, but I can't understand your logic.

 

[King of the Sandbox]

And there's a difference between "some money" and "no money at all"

I like how you think that devs don't get paid until people buy the games from stores.

It's cute. Naive, but cute.

Nowhere have I said that, so I don't get what you're getting at. Of course they get paid, but something tells me that how well a game sells would be instrumental to the future of the company, no?

Either way, I'm not gonna argue this point further. There are a lot of people outraged with this statement so obviously this is something that will impact them greatly. I just can't understand how some people think. I'll withdraw my statement that it's wrong, but I can't understand your logic.

Meh, it's all pointless mental meandering anyway until the game actually comes out, anyway.

Also, I complement you on your tact in this discussion, good sir.

/internet handshake.

 

[Zac Smith]

Forget saying that buying used gives nothing back to the publisher so it's just the same as pirating. I don't know about everyone but I certainly can't afford to buy a brand new copy of every single game I want just so I can play multiplayer, I'm not made of money am I?

 

[raklin]

Next time I want to buy a used Mercedes, I'll call official Mercedes dealership to ask them if they're gonna cut my brakes if I don't give them a piece of that action.

This is fuckin' stupid. Stop punishing gamers already. This kind of behavior can only increase piracy.

Or you could, you know, buy the game new and actually support the developer? Rather than the, "Fuck you, I want to buy your game at a cheaper price, and not let any of the money go back to you, and you're a piece of shit for wanting to make a profit off of the sale of one of your games." attitude you've got going now.

I don't get why people are all up in arms about this. RAGE is going to be a massive game by the way all of the news stories seem to say about it, if it's a good game it'll be worth the money to buy it new. If you really want to save money and buy it used, then you're paying for a lesser experience. I see no issue in this.

You really want to blame somebody: Blame GameStop for not giving a portion of their 100% gain on a used game being sold back to the developers.

No offense intended, but I suspect you're one of the fortunate gamers who can usually find that $60 bucks to spend on a game. Myself, and many others, on the other hand, have to save money for weeks, if not months, to be able to afford a shiney new game.

For those of us barely making it month to month, scurrying to pay rent and keep the power on, used games is often times the only legal avenue we have to get our favorite newest release.

So no, sir, it has nothing at ALL do with with the supposed "Fuck you, I want to buy your game at a cheaper price, and not let any of the money go back to you, and you're a piece of shit for wanting to make a profit off of the sale of one of your games" attitude you accused us poorer gamers of having. I would love to be able to throw my money at Bioware and what-have-you, but unless i'd rather not eat that month, I have to give it to game stop.

So please stop being a self-righteous jackass, please, and try to understand that not everyone has the means to buy shrink-wrapped copies all the time.

No offence intended as well, but you could buy a brand new shrinkwraped copy on sale a few months after the game comes out as well...

I would rather wait a few months and support the developer rather than line the pockets of gamestop... And as a PC gamer I have NEVER been able to go down to the gamestop to buy a used copy of a game, so I hold little sympathy on that account

I count myself as a PC gamer and a Xbox gamer. Obviously, I don't buy games used for the PC - I just only buy during the crazy sales on steam. But on the xbox? I can never afford a new game on the xbox. Just because you don't game on the xbox doesn't mean that hurting console gamers is doesn't matter - it just seems to me, at least, that it proves you have very little right to an opinion on a matter that doesn't even affect you. Analogy - Oh, Japan got pwned by some bad weather? Oh well, I don't live there, so i've got little sympathy on that account."

Sure, my analogy is a little overly dramatic, but it works. Attacking the used games market is crap, especially in today's economy. So please, just because you don't care about used games, don't insult the gamers who do by claiming that we don't care for supporting the developers.

As for waiting a few months to buy a game on sale? I don't know about the magical candy land you live in, but I'll use Crysis 2 as an example. On sale, it was only $10 less than the original price. Just because I'm poor doesn't mean I should wait 6-8 months for a fair price drop, and you're rather mistaken if you think I will.

 

[the_green_dragon]

Whats with this: Dev's get no money from pre-owned games.

If I trade in a game, theres a good chance it's to get a brand new game.

So when someone buys that used game, that money actually goes to the purchase of the brand new game I bought earlier, which means that A developer somewhere is getting money.

If they want to make our used games worthless, then I'll end up buying less new games or just waiting for the specials.

With all this anti used game bullshit they're hurting everyone, the gamers who pay for games instead of pirating them. The retailers who sell their games, and themselves.

 

[0986875533423]

Why hello gaming industry. My friends All Other Commercial Products and I were just having a Capitalism. Do you care to join us or are you just going to sit in the corner and sulk about how you can't levy enormous taxes on every movement of every instance of your intellectual property?

Grow up. The original author makes no money off second-hand book sales, the original studio makes no money off second-hand dvd sales, the original manufacturer makes no money off second-hand car sales, the original dev makes no money off second-hand game sales. That is the way it works.

 

[feather240]

It just occurred to me that there isn't a used market for PC games so I'd have to buy it new anyway. I don't care about project ten dollar anymore. I barely care about DRM thanks to modding and piracy. I never really understood what people meant by console peasant until now.

...Since DRM was on PC first in many forms (Dial a pirate haha), and it's just starting to get on consoles wouldn't that mean that PC gamers were the peasants having to bow down to publishers DRM rules. While the Console Gamers where free to do what they pleased?

Yeah, but I don't have to use DRM if I don't want to.